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Radiation wrote: It looks like two officers have been placed on administrative leave.

That's standard when anything is controversial. It means nothing.

Jihadin wrote:You heard it to Dogma? Just want to be sure someone else heard it

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Think selective hearing was in play for law enforcement. Because right after the sentence with the word "gun" was used they started bayonet training.

I don't think you are trying to troll the thread, so I will be very clear.

The student said, "Here they come."

And then the pigs attacked.

Radiation wrote:
And then the pigs attacked.

If he can't call the protesters hippies, then you DEFINITELY don't get to call the cops pigs.

It's only fair.

Nope. At the 4 sec mark you can hear "get the gun to side" not "Here they come"

Rented Tritium wrote:

Radiation wrote:
And then the pigs attacked.

If he can't call the protesters hippies, then you DEFINITELY don't get to call the cops pigs.

It's only fair.

And here I was envisioning that scene from Hannibal.

Boy, is my face red.

Even if someone DID say gun, I'm not thinking the cops would have heard it. In tense situations like that, it gets really hard to pick anything out of the din. You get auditory tunnel vision.

Jihadin wrote:You heard it to Dogma? Just want to be sure someone else heard it

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Think selective hearing was in play for law enforcement. Because right after the sentence with the word "gun" was used they started bayonet training.

Yeah. Granted, I might be hearing it because that's what you're describing, but the sound is definitely at least consistent with your interpretation. Moreover, given the timing, it makes sense seeing as police are trained to protect their firearms. My thinking is that the police felt the students were attempting to take their guns from the holsters, something like "Get the gun at his side."

Its a keyword. Someone going to hear a keyword amidst the voices. I've done it myself along with others in similiar situation

Jihadin wrote:Nope. At the 4 sec mark you can hear "get the gun to side" not "Here they come"

Troll away then. He clearly said "here they come."

Jihadin wrote:Its a keyword. Someone going to hear a keyword amidst the voices. I've done it myself along with others in similiar situation

Yeah. I've never been in a riot, but I've been to my fair share of foreign nightclubs. You learn the words for "gun", "knife", "beat" etc. regardless of where you happen to be, and then you hear them regardless of how confused the situation is.

Radiation wrote:

Jihadin wrote:Nope. At the 4 sec mark you can hear "get the gun to side" not "Here they come"

Troll away then. He clearly said "here they come."

I heard 'get the gun to side' or something similar...
Definately not 'here they come'

Radiation wrote:

Jihadin wrote:Nope. At the 4 sec mark you can hear "get the gun to side" not "Here they come"

Troll away then. He clearly said "here they come."

It could be either one, I can hear both. That said, given how professional the police were in this case, I'm willing to give them the benefit of the doubt.

I hear "here they come" personally, but it kinda goes both ways, and I'm able to repeatedly listen to it.

Alright. On the left side of the screen. The front roll is a female with glasses. Right behind her is a guy with long brown hair. I think he's saying it

Granted it might not be Get the gun on the side but you do hear the word "gun" and "side"

purplefood wrote:

Radiation wrote:

Jihadin wrote:Nope. At the 4 sec mark you can hear "get the gun to side" not "Here they come"

Troll away then. He clearly said "here they come."

I heard 'get the gun to side' or something similar...
Definately not 'here they come'

He has a classic California Liberal lisp. And said, "Heere they come." And he was talking about the cops flanking the students from the side. That is in context to the incident.

Picture the scene. It's Boston in the 1770s. Lots of people are protesting against the stamp acts (or similar). The British start blasting the protestors with muskets. Word gets out. Lots of people are really unhappy. But there are other people who say - the British were right - these protestors were sitting on the sidewalk. They broke the law.
Lots of people seem to be quoting the law, but there is a big difference between law and justice. John Adams must be spinning in his grave.

"Here they come to the side" That lisp you said makes it sound like "gun" and "side". I'm going out and say the officer protecting his weapon. Perception of the word "gun" is there

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Get off the Boston Tea Party. Its not in the time frame

Do_I_Not_Like_That wrote:Picture the scene. It's Boston in the 1770s. Lots of people are protesting against the stamp acts (or similar). The British start blasting the protestors with muskets. Word gets out. Lots of people are really unhappy. But there are other people who say - the British were right - these protestors were sitting on the sidewalk. They broke the law.
Lots of people seem to be quoting the law, but there is a big difference between law and justice. John Adams must be spinning in his grave.

John Adams? John 'alien and sedition' Adams, not the best example there, not to mention he was the lawyer that defended the soldiers.

Jihadin wrote:"Here they come to the side" That lisp you said makes it sound like "gun" and "side". I'm going out and say the officer protecting his weapon. Perception of the word "gun" is there

No way. That cop is California bacon. He heard "here they come to the side" just like everyone else from CA. You are stretching it. Think about the context. UC Berkeley students. Nerds.

Do_I_Not_Like_That wrote:Picture the scene. It's Boston in the 1770s. Lots of people are protesting against the stamp acts (or similar). The British start blasting the protestors with muskets. Word gets out. Lots of people are really unhappy. But there are other people who say - the British were right - these protestors were sitting on the sidewalk. They broke the law.
Lots of people seem to be quoting the law, but there is a big difference between law and justice. John Adams must be spinning in his grave.

John Adams defended those soldiers in court. He's spinning in his grave about your post.

Radiation wrote: Think about the context. UC Berkeley students. Nerds.

Ha.

I went to a so-called near-Ivy and the only time I've ever been threatened with a deadly weapon was during an altercation with a fellow student.

It was a hatchet, by the way.


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Rented Tritium wrote:
John Adams defended those soldiers on court. He's spinning in his grave about your post.

And being portrayed by Paul Giamatti.

dogma wrote:
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Rented Tritium wrote:
John Adams defended those soldiers on court. He's spinning in his grave about your post.

And being portrayed by Paul Giamatti.

Paul Giamatti was a PERFECT Adams, dude.

Rad I'm not from Cali nor use to hearing every drawl, lisp, or inflection in a voice. Granted I will admit that someone from the Bayou will throw everybody off if they talk fast. To me I heard "gun" and "come" both sound similiar to that drawl. How do you know the officer a pure cali lol. I'm half asian with a southern accent/lisp as an example

It really doesn't matter, because anyone yelling gun does not appear to have played into the situation or how it unfolded.

Rented Tritium wrote:
Paul Giamatti was a PERFECT Adams, dude.

But he went to Yale, Adams went to Harvard.

Having typed that I can scarcely believe the pretension.

dogma wrote:

Rented Tritium wrote:
Paul Giamatti was a PERFECT Adams, dude.

But he went to Yale, Adams went to Harvard.

Having typed that I can scarcely believe the pretension.

Haha, you need to take a shower after that?

Jihadin wrote:Rad I'm not from Cali nor use to hearing every drawl, lisp, or inflection in a voice. Granted I will admit that someone from the Bayou will throw everybody off if they talk fast. To me I heard "gun" and "come" both sound similiar to that drawl. How do you know the officer a pure cali lol. I'm half asian with a southern accent/lisp as an example

I just know. I can smell it.

Rented Tritium wrote:
Haha, you need to take a shower after that?

Probably, though once T-giving rolls around I'm sure my uncles will take the piss* out of me quickly.



*Note to self: don't use European slang during T-giving.

It interesting to say the least but like I said if I was one of the students up front getting gutted and trying to get back and then pushed right back into it. I will. beat. the. ever. loving. crap. out. of. somebody.

On a side note. I did not see a good looking female in that crowd. I thought college females were like uber hot?

Jihadin wrote: I thought college females were like uber hot?

Just type "ASU girls" into Google.