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Uh, leaving aside the complete lack of evidence for a second, what possible reason could the Royal Family have for 'murdering' Diana Spencer?

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I find myself agreeing with Albatross far too often these days...

I almost always agree with Albatross, I can't see why anyone wouldn't.


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Okay, so the male version of "Cougar" is now officially "Albatross".
 
   
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Because the royals are evil!

What's that? What proof do we have they are evil?

They're evil because they killed Diana!
   
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She was getting popular. She was the most liked royal of her time without a doubt. Look at her funeral.

Evidence? It doesn't take that long for an ambulance to come.

 
   
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Perhaps this Youtube video will clear thing up.


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Excellent. A youtube video. That's all my research into this matter done.

"There's a time when the operation of the machine becomes so odious—makes you so sick at heart—that you can't take part. You can't even passively take part. And you've got to put your bodies upon the gears and upon the wheels, upon the levers, upon all the apparatus, and you've got to make it stop. And you've got to indicate to the people who run it, to the people who own it that unless you're free, the machine will be prevented from working at all" Mario Savio 
   
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Oklahoma City, Ok.

Albatross wrote:Uh, leaving aside the complete lack of evidence for a second, what possible reason could the Royal Family have for 'murdering' Diana Spencer?


From an outside point of view, it sounds crazy to me. But never underestimate the ability of the people to love a conspiracy.

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Mr Hyena wrote:She was getting popular. She was the most liked royal of her time without a doubt. Look at her funeral.

Evidence? It doesn't take that long for an ambulance to come.

Wait, the French are involved in this? Those perfidious garlic-munching louts. They'll rue the day.


RUE it.

 Cheesecat wrote:
 purplefood wrote:
I find myself agreeing with Albatross far too often these days...

I almost always agree with Albatross, I can't see why anyone wouldn't.


 Crazy_Carnifex wrote:

Okay, so the male version of "Cougar" is now officially "Albatross".
 
   
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Seeing as this thread has gone bat gak crazy.

A typical picture of a Royal

   
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The Parisian ambulance drivers were on a public holiday that day, of which there are 260 in france. They were enjoying a platter of fine cheeses in their seldom cleaned apartment with dodgy wiring.

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Calling it now.

Zionist. Conspiracy.
   
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Conspiracy? I think I smell a rat!


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corpsesarefun wrote:Calling it now.

Zionist. Conspiracy.

+1

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Those wacky Jews...

 Cheesecat wrote:
 purplefood wrote:
I find myself agreeing with Albatross far too often these days...

I almost always agree with Albatross, I can't see why anyone wouldn't.


 Crazy_Carnifex wrote:

Okay, so the male version of "Cougar" is now officially "Albatross".
 
   
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Mr Hyena wrote:She was getting popular. She was the most liked royal of her time without a doubt. Look at her funeral.

Evidence? It doesn't take that long for an ambulance to come.


One has to ask though: Prince Philip is famous, notorious even, for saying whatever pops into his head, no matter how rude, no matter the situation. Some would say he is Lord of the Pensioners. I'm not getting the impression that this is a man who cares about "popular". Really I'm not. Why do you feel he would care? By the same token, his uncle, Mountbatten, was assassinated in a most unpleasant fashion himself. One might think that might put the old man off the concept just a little. His sister and her family died in an air crash. I know we aren't supposed to attribute feelings to "The Lizards", but one might even think that such an event might put the old boy off assassinating people by crash.

Also, what ARE the average first responder times for the Parisian Ambulance Service? How long should it take?

"There's a time when the operation of the machine becomes so odious—makes you so sick at heart—that you can't take part. You can't even passively take part. And you've got to put your bodies upon the gears and upon the wheels, upon the levers, upon all the apparatus, and you've got to make it stop. And you've got to indicate to the people who run it, to the people who own it that unless you're free, the machine will be prevented from working at all" Mario Savio 
   
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...Bearing in mind Paris' notoriously bad traffic situation.

 Cheesecat wrote:
 purplefood wrote:
I find myself agreeing with Albatross far too often these days...

I almost always agree with Albatross, I can't see why anyone wouldn't.


 Crazy_Carnifex wrote:

Okay, so the male version of "Cougar" is now officially "Albatross".
 
   
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Glasgow

The same man who was determined not to fly the flag at half mast until they caved into public pressure?


Also, what ARE the average first responder times for the Parisian Ambulance Service? How long should it take?


If thats the average wait for an ambulance...I'd feel sorry for the denizens of Paris then.

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And bearing in mind the call wouldn't exactly have specified who it was, it was just a regular emergency services call regarding a car crash with no special treatment.

On a busy sunday night.
   
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Oklahoma City, Ok.

And given her wounds, I doubt it would have mattered if they where there waiting on the wreck.

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There is literally a galaxy of difference between behaving using recognised protocol being applied by a man who has spent the better part of his life following protocol (or a woman who has spent her whole life submerged in it), and having someone killed.

Besides which, if it were a popularity contest, do you not think that they would have flown the flag at half mast in order to curry favour with the public, who do not generally know royal protocol?

"There's a time when the operation of the machine becomes so odious—makes you so sick at heart—that you can't take part. You can't even passively take part. And you've got to put your bodies upon the gears and upon the wheels, upon the levers, upon all the apparatus, and you've got to make it stop. And you've got to indicate to the people who run it, to the people who own it that unless you're free, the machine will be prevented from working at all" Mario Savio 
   
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Glasgow

Sod the protocol. When someone who was a hero for the people dies, you fly it at half mast. No ifs. Not buts.

And given her wounds, I doubt it would have mattered if they where there waiting on the wreck.


Probably. Doesn't make their attitude towards it any more endearing.

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Oh, and Paris ambulances are generally on a 5 minute response time average. 15 minutes is poor, but not outside possibility. Ours is 8 minutes, and about 70% fail to manage that, especially at weekends.


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Mr Hyena wrote:Sod the protocol. When someone who was a hero for the people dies, you fly it at half mast. No ifs. Not buts.


And that sir, is the difference between a lifetime of living by a certain very strict rule-book with precedents and traditions going back centuries, and just being a peasant.

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"There's a time when the operation of the machine becomes so odious—makes you so sick at heart—that you can't take part. You can't even passively take part. And you've got to put your bodies upon the gears and upon the wheels, upon the levers, upon all the apparatus, and you've got to make it stop. And you've got to indicate to the people who run it, to the people who own it that unless you're free, the machine will be prevented from working at all" Mario Savio 
   
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Glasgow

And that sir, is the difference between a lifetime of living by a certain very strict rule-book with precedents and traditions going back centuries, and just being a peasant.


Now you can refer back to my point of why royal families are outdated for the times. Refusal to acknowledge a heroes death is just wrong.

 
   
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I think 'hero' is probably a bit strong. She can go home at the end of the day, the nurses in the AIDS wards she visited have to get up and do it all again tomorrow, for not much money.

 Cheesecat wrote:
 purplefood wrote:
I find myself agreeing with Albatross far too often these days...

I almost always agree with Albatross, I can't see why anyone wouldn't.


 Crazy_Carnifex wrote:

Okay, so the male version of "Cougar" is now officially "Albatross".
 
   
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Glasgow

Compared to an AIDs worker? your right. Compared to the rest of the royals? The word fits.

Part of the problem is the fact that its heredity rule. Snobs tend to be very aloof. I think if we can remove the royals and provide a more democratic replacement...they would be much more realistic. Currently its like a wax work museum...or a walking morgue.

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So is ignoring protocol.

This is what you aren't grasping. You live your life by a certain unwritten moral code, a set of rules a sto what you see as "wrong", or "right." You appear to have at least an idea of how you will react to certain events. Some things you "just do."

Now try and imagine that that rule-book was written for you a century ago. You have been raised to follow it. Some things are "done", and some things are "not".

The difference is that your rulebook can be dropped or re-written whenever you feel like it, and the only person held to it is you.

Your suggestion that the Royal Family could just cry "Sod the protocol" is akin to an officer in a Guards regiment saying "Sod orders, lets do what we like." Even more so given that both Philip and Elizabeth served in the military themselves.


"There's a time when the operation of the machine becomes so odious—makes you so sick at heart—that you can't take part. You can't even passively take part. And you've got to put your bodies upon the gears and upon the wheels, upon the levers, upon all the apparatus, and you've got to make it stop. And you've got to indicate to the people who run it, to the people who own it that unless you're free, the machine will be prevented from working at all" Mario Savio 
   
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Mr Hyena wrote:Compared to an AIDs worker? your right. Compared to the rest of the royals? The word fits.

Her Brother-in-Law served with distinction in the Falklands. Her Father-in-Law saw active service in WWII.


Just throwing it out there.

 Cheesecat wrote:
 purplefood wrote:
I find myself agreeing with Albatross far too often these days...

I almost always agree with Albatross, I can't see why anyone wouldn't.


 Crazy_Carnifex wrote:

Okay, so the male version of "Cougar" is now officially "Albatross".
 
   
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Glasgow

ArbeitsSchu wrote:So is ignoring protocol.

This is what you aren't grasping. You live your life by a certain unwritten moral code, a set of rules a sto what you see as "wrong", or "right." You appear to have at least an idea of how you will react to certain events. Some things you "just do."

Now try and imagine that that rule-book was written for you a century ago. You have been raised to follow it. Some things are "done", and some things are "not".

The difference is that your rulebook can be dropped or re-written whenever you feel like it, and the only person held to it is you.

Your suggestion that the Royal Family could just cry "Sod the protocol" is akin to an officer in a Guards regiment saying "Sod orders, lets do what we like." Even more so given that both Philip and Elizabeth served in the military themselves.



I suppose so. We'll have to agree to disagree then. I tend to be more...progressive.


Her Brother-in-Law served with distinction in the Falklands. Her Father-in-Law saw active service in WWII.


Just throwing it out there.


Yup. Which is a good thing.

 
   
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Mr Hyena wrote:Compared to an AIDs worker? your right. Compared to the rest of the royals? The word fits.


Lets see shall we?

Naval service
After leaving Gordonstoun in 1939, Prince Philip joined the Royal Navy, graduating the next year from the Royal Naval College, Dartmouth, as the top cadet in his course.[18] He was commissioned as a midshipman in January 1940. Philip spent four months on the battleship HMS Ramillies, protecting convoys of the Australian Expeditionary Force in the Indian Ocean, followed by shorter postings on HM Ships Kent, Shropshire and in Ceylon (now Sri Lanka). After the invasion of Greece by Italy in October 1940, he was transferred from the Indian Ocean to the battleship HMS Valiant in the Mediterranean Fleet.[19] Amongst other engagements, he was involved in the Battle of Crete, was mentioned in despatches for his service during the Battle of Cape Matapan where he controlled the battleship's searchlights.
Philip was also awarded the Greek War Cross of Valour.[18] Duties of lesser glory included stoking the boilers of the troop transport ship RMS Empress of Russia.[20]
Prince Philip was promoted to sub-lieutenant after a series of courses at Portsmouth in which he gained the top grade in four out of five sections.[21] In June 1942, he was appointed to the V and W class destroyer and flotilla leader, HMS Wallace, which was involved in convoy escort tasks on the east coast of Britain, as well as the allied invasion of Sicily.[22] Promotion to lieutenant followed on 16 July 1942. In October of the same year, at just 21 years of age, he became first lieutenant of HMS Wallace and one of the youngest first lieutenants in the Royal Navy. During the invasion of Sicily, in July 1943, as second in command of HMS Wallace, he saved his ship from a night bomber attack. He devised a plan to launch a raft with smoke floats that successfully distracted the bombers allowing the ship to slip away unnoticed.[22] In 1944, he moved on to the new destroyer, HMS Whelp, where he saw service with the British Pacific Fleet in the 27th Destroyer Flotilla.[23][24] He was present in Tokyo Bay when the instrument of Japanese surrender was signed. In January 1946, Philip returned to the United Kingdom on the Whelp, and was posted as an instructor at HMS Royal Arthur, the Petty Officers' School in Corsham, Wiltshire.[25]


Yes, you are right, clearly Philip did absolutely bugger all even vaguely heroic.

By comparison: Stood on a cancer ward? Even I've done that. Not heroic.. Carefully probed for mines in a pre-cleared section of mine-field? I'll wager there are posters on this thread (the OP perhaps) who have done it with real live ones, perhaps even under fire, not surrounded by the fawning press. Not to do her a disservice, but there is more than one definition of "heroic" and I suspect that even Diana would agree that the poor little sods with cancer/missing limbs/AIDs are a damn sight more heroic than she was.

"There's a time when the operation of the machine becomes so odious—makes you so sick at heart—that you can't take part. You can't even passively take part. And you've got to put your bodies upon the gears and upon the wheels, upon the levers, upon all the apparatus, and you've got to make it stop. And you've got to indicate to the people who run it, to the people who own it that unless you're free, the machine will be prevented from working at all" Mario Savio 
   
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Some light charity work, being a pretty face and visiting a few troubled nations < Doing charity work and actively serving in the military.
   
 
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