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Commisar Von Humps wrote:I have watched the intro to the show, and caught several bits here and there. Please tell me that MLP was not intended for small, prepubescent girls after watching it. I'm not saying to go pointing and laughing at them, i'm just saying that its a show that's meant for young girls and that adult males have turned it into something that they constantly turn everything into. And yes i may be generalizing, but its ridiculous.

The intro is the girliest bit of the entire show. Hence why most bronies skip it.

Here's what I said when stuff about "how is the show not just for little girls?" came up in another thread:

Just a quick question but have you ever seen a film called The Big Lebowski? If you have then I won't need to explain why it isn't suitable viewing for a 12 year old girl. If you haven't then know it involves a lot of swearing, nudity, drug references, violence, the ingestion of copious amounts of White Russians etc. With this in mind I will just say that in one episode of this show which "caters to 12 year old girls" there was a cameo of some of the characters from said film, including one whose most famous line included him saying that he would put a glock up your gakhole and pull the trigger until it went click.

It might just be me but that seems to be catering to a bit more than just 12 year old girls.

insaniak wrote:

Commisar Von Humps wrote:You forgot the last part, small, female, children. Lion King was awesome, classic movie. Not a show that made me want to put a gun barrel in my mouth.

But it was still a show intended for children. Should we all be pointing and laughing because you think it's awesome? Why does it make a difference if MLP is intended for girls specifically, rather than just for children in general?

For that matter, what exactly makes it specifically targeted at girls? The fact that it has ponies in it? Does it have a disclaimer at the start of the show saying 'You have to be this short and possess female bits in order to watch this show',,,?



Actually, given what I have heard of the show, I wonder how many of those putting it down for being intended for small girls have even watched an episode?

Enjoying MLP is indicative of an extremely unhealthy mental state and extremely unhealthy fascination with children and child-like things. It's like creepy old men in trench-coats trying to play with young kids at the park: Maybe he's legit and just likes to play with kids. But more likely...

Kaldor wrote:

Enjoying MLP is indicative of an extremely unhealthy mental state and extremely unhealthy fascination with children and child-like things. It's like creepy old men in trench-coats trying to play with young kids at the park: Maybe he's legit and just likes to play with kids. But more likely...

No, a mental illness is indicated by things like personal suffering, maladaptiveness, irrationality or incomprehensibility (not 'its irrational that someone likes MLP', more 'people who are hallucinating are reacting irrationally because it is false stimulus they respond to'), unpredictability and loss of control, vividness, and more. Liking a television show is not indicative of an extremely unhealthy mental state, nor an unhealthy fascination with children and child-like things.

Edit: not to misrepresent my point, there are factors like 'observer discomfort', but that tends to mean a deeper discomfort than just 'why do you like that show, its weird'.

motyak wrote:

Kaldor wrote:

Enjoying MLP is indicative of an extremely unhealthy mental state and extremely unhealthy fascination with children and child-like things. It's like creepy old men in trench-coats trying to play with young kids at the park: Maybe he's legit and just likes to play with kids. But more likely...

No, a mental illness is indicated by things like personal suffering, maladaptiveness, irrationality or incomprehensibility (not 'its irrational that someone likes MLP', more 'people who are hallucinating are reacting irrationally because it is false stimulus they respond to'), unpredictability and loss of control, vividness, and more. Liking a television show is not indicative of an extremely unhealthy mental state, nor an unhealthy fascination with children and child-like things.

All of his comments about MLP are like this, he's a bit to obvious in his indications to try and press peoples buttons.

I think it's far more likely that the entire MLP fandom is just a big trolling conspiracy that -works- very well. Then for them to all be closeted pedophiles. Also. Pedo's are weak and timid and often pathetic and cowardly. Bronies lol are for far more aggressive and outgoing.


Or it's just the whisky talking.

Also, why the feth is a aussie still putting up with GW, is the real question.

ZebioLizard2 wrote:

motyak wrote:

Kaldor wrote:

Enjoying MLP is indicative of an extremely unhealthy mental state and extremely unhealthy fascination with children and child-like things. It's like creepy old men in trench-coats trying to play with young kids at the park: Maybe he's legit and just likes to play with kids. But more likely...

No, a mental illness is indicated by things like personal suffering, maladaptiveness, irrationality or incomprehensibility (not 'its irrational that someone likes MLP', more 'people who are hallucinating are reacting irrationally because it is false stimulus they respond to'), unpredictability and loss of control, vividness, and more. Liking a television show is not indicative of an extremely unhealthy mental state, nor an unhealthy fascination with children and child-like things.

All of his comments about MLP are like this, he's a bit to obvious in his indications to try and press peoples buttons.

I know that he does it to push buttons. I've seen his other posts in similar threads. Just this one needed to be clarified because he actively drew a link between MLP and mental instability, and people who don't know about either may believe him. We can't have him misleading people.

I have no issue with people disliking MLP, I've never seen it but I don't think I'd like it, but even then I wouldn't say someone is a pedo for liking it, just as I wouldn't want to be called a pedo for enjoying Tangled every time I watch it.

Tangled is cool.

Tadashi wrote:

It's heresy either way.

Quoted for Truth

I don't discriminate with my hate, I just hate all of them equally... with the passionate fury of a thousand burning suns.

ZebioLizard2 wrote:

motyak wrote:

Kaldor wrote:

Enjoying MLP is indicative of an extremely unhealthy mental state and extremely unhealthy fascination with children and child-like things. It's like creepy old men in trench-coats trying to play with young kids at the park: Maybe he's legit and just likes to play with kids. But more likely...

No, a mental illness is indicated by things like personal suffering, maladaptiveness, irrationality or incomprehensibility (not 'its irrational that someone likes MLP', more 'people who are hallucinating are reacting irrationally because it is false stimulus they respond to'), unpredictability and loss of control, vividness, and more. Liking a television show is not indicative of an extremely unhealthy mental state, nor an unhealthy fascination with children and child-like things.

All of his comments about MLP are like this, he's a bit to obvious in his indications to try and press peoples buttons.

Or perhaps it's a bit closer to the truth than you feel comfortable with?

Vladsimpaler wrote:

ZebioLizard2 wrote:

motyak wrote:

Kaldor wrote:

Enjoying MLP is indicative of an extremely unhealthy mental state and extremely unhealthy fascination with children and child-like things. It's like creepy old men in trench-coats trying to play with young kids at the park: Maybe he's legit and just likes to play with kids. But more likely...

No, a mental illness is indicated by things like personal suffering, maladaptiveness, irrationality or incomprehensibility (not 'its irrational that someone likes MLP', more 'people who are hallucinating are reacting irrationally because it is false stimulus they respond to'), unpredictability and loss of control, vividness, and more. Liking a television show is not indicative of an extremely unhealthy mental state, nor an unhealthy fascination with children and child-like things.

All of his comments about MLP are like this, he's a bit to obvious in his indications to try and press peoples buttons.

Or perhaps it's a bit closer to the truth than you feel comfortable with?

Well its not close to the truth in the statement that it is extremely indicative of an unhealthy mental state. That he doesn't like it is accurate, but the link that he stated is not.

I'm sorry if this post is reiterating a point already made, but

1) I don't like either of them, and

2) It's because they're both extremely unsettling.

Furries remind me of the sexual fetish far, far too much. Also, the sheer irrationality of wanting to be an animal terrifies me - it's exactly the part of humanity I despise, the animistic.

Bronies are another example of horrifying irrationality. Honestly, I've seen the best shows - one of my best friends is a brony, and basically ties us down and shows us the "best episodes." They're really, really, obviously a children's show targeted towards little girls. None of this "sophisticated for adults" crap. It's terrifying.

Vladsimpaler wrote:

ZebioLizard2 wrote:

motyak wrote:

Kaldor wrote:

Enjoying MLP is indicative of an extremely unhealthy mental state and extremely unhealthy fascination with children and child-like things. It's like creepy old men in trench-coats trying to play with young kids at the park: Maybe he's legit and just likes to play with kids. But more likely...

No, a mental illness is indicated by things like personal suffering, maladaptiveness, irrationality or incomprehensibility (not 'its irrational that someone likes MLP', more 'people who are hallucinating are reacting irrationally because it is false stimulus they respond to'), unpredictability and loss of control, vividness, and more. Liking a television show is not indicative of an extremely unhealthy mental state, nor an unhealthy fascination with children and child-like things.

All of his comments about MLP are like this, he's a bit to obvious in his indications to try and press peoples buttons.

Or perhaps it's a bit closer to the truth than you feel comfortable with?

Not really, I find it funny.

MLP would be a lot better if it was a "cute cartoon aimed at adults".. like happy tree friends.

insaniak wrote:Pony Marines fit into the 40K fluff no better than Furry Marines do. It's a mix of genres that some people will enjoy for the novelty value, and some will hate as going against the grimdarkness of the 40K background.

I could not have said it better. They both do not fit in the 40K world, so they both do not belong there.

Werewolves are fine, but they are not what the 40k Setting is about.

MLP is not to my liking, I dislike every pic and avatar of anything related to MLP*. It looks like a bunch of bubblegum sweetheart infused things geared towards little girls.

*Exception, the following MLP themed pic is pretty fantastic.

Anyone who watches/reads or otherwise associates themselves in anyway with my little pony or any other equally ridiculous pony cult thing in any amount should be banished from the planet left stranded in space until they pop.

these people include but are not limited to memekids who mention ponies. or actualy all memekids, bronys anyone with a pony sig the guy that made the spacemarine pony army and posted pictures of that monstrosity anyone who owns a shirt or any other article of clothing with a pony on it.

i think you get the idea

also i play 40k to wage awesome wars against the awesome races in the games setting, not to fight ponies in power armor because my opponent spends to much time on a forrum involved in some pony story so much that he cant even play a game of 40k without having ponies involved. if i wanted to play with ponies id go to the little girls section of toymart and get a few not play 40k and ruin everyone elses day, i dont even like seeing that crap in the same store im in

I think people don't understand or refuse to acknowledge that kids shows can be actually aimed at their parent too.
Believe you me, watching hours of Teletubbies with my nieces and nephews was mind numbly painful. I actually heard some of my brain cells popping like Lemmings. Is it so hard to comprehend that some shows may have some (or most) of the content watchable/enjoyable for adults so parents won't die of a stroke? Why do you think Disney / Pixar etc. is so successful? Because parents will happily watch it with their kids.

I do however feel that sometimes Bronies and Furries go a bit too far. Like with every hobby: if you don't find it interesting and somebody else won't stop talking about, it will drive you nuts.
I would chuckle and enjoy playing pony-based armies or one with the cutie marks or the furry one. As long as, like somebody here already mentioned, it would be nicely done ("no McDonnalds toys").

As for people throwing 'pedos' around :


Look, you are playing a game aimed directly at children. It's time to start taking your sex-drive killing medication because you are a ticking time bomb.

EDIT: typos ;/

Holy sh** That is a GW TV add. I've never seen a TV add before! That is so cool and cheesy ha

Mr Hyena wrote:
Egyptian-influenced. It goes back a LOT further than Anime. (Anime really only applies to catboys/girls and manga artworks)

There is a distinct difference between furries (a subculture of folks who enjoy cute anthropomorphic personas or artwork), otherkin (folks who appropriate very loose versions of older "spirit-animal" beliefs with no respect for the cultural, historical, practical and educational context of said beliefs) and ancient Egyptians/Amerindians/Celts/whoever else, to whom these beliefs were deadly serious, rooted in daily interaction with said animals, and whom did not have access to Wikipedia and thus felt perhaps the whims of a powerful dude with a crocodile head was a good explanation for the vagaries of crocodilian behavior.

Who cares. I hate all Marines,

Unit1126PLL wrote:
Furries remind me of the sexual fetish far, far too much. Also, the sheer irrationality of wanting to be an animal terrifies me - it's exactly the part of humanity I despise, the animistic.

You seem to be making the assumption that someone liking furries is automatically someone who dresses up as a furry and wants to be an animal, which I find a little odd. I like Batman... But I don't dress up as him, or pretend to be some sort of vigilante.

And for those making judgements on peoples' sexual deviancy based on them liking a cartoon or a genre you don't like... Seriously? Have you ever seen those old Chick Tracts about the evils of Dungeons and dragons? This sort of attitude seriously reminds me of that bizarre level of closed-minded refusal to understand something you don't like.

insaniak wrote:

Unit1126PLL wrote:
Furries remind me of the sexual fetish far, far too much. Also, the sheer irrationality of wanting to be an animal terrifies me - it's exactly the part of humanity I despise, the animistic.

You seem to be making the assumption that someone liking furries is automatically someone who dresses up as a furry and wants to be an animal, which I find a little odd. I like Batman... But I don't dress up as him, or pretend to be some sort of vigilante.

And for those making judgements on peoples' sexual deviancy based on them liking a cartoon or a genre you don't like... Seriously? Have you ever seen those old Chick Tracts about the evils of Dungeons and dragons? This sort of attitude seriously reminds me of that bizarre level of closed-minded refusal to understand something you don't like.

Isn't that what a Furry is? Perhaps it is different elsewhere, but in Texas (where I'm from) and Pennsylvania (where I am now) the term "Furry" is usually exclusively reserved for people who actually dress up as animals to have sex.

People who just think animals are cool are called "Environmentalists" 'round these parts.

Isn't that what a Furry is? Perhaps it is different elsewhere, but in Texas (where I'm from) and Pennsylvania (where I am now) the term "Furry" is usually exclusively reserved for people who actually dress up as animals to have sex.

Term would be called "Fursuiter"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fursuit

Furry fandom is if you like anthropomorphized animals to a great extent (Somewhat like star fox type animals), it doesn't mean you have to be sexually on it, you can just be a fan of those types of things without it being sexual.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Furry_fandom

ZebioLizard2 wrote:

Isn't that what a Furry is? Perhaps it is different elsewhere, but in Texas (where I'm from) and Pennsylvania (where I am now) the term "Furry" is usually exclusively reserved for people who actually dress up as animals to have sex.

Term would be called "Fursuiter"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fursuit

Furry fandom is if you like anthropomorphized animals to a great extent (Somewhat like star fox type animals), it doesn't mean you have to be sexually on it, you can just be a fan of those types of things without it being sexual.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Furry_fandom

According to that second wikipedia article, only 21% of furries have no sexual interest in the topic. And it says furry, not fursuits.

EDIT: Word for word quote: "the remaining 21% stated they have a "non-sexual interest in furry"."

Unit1126PLL wrote:

ZebioLizard2 wrote:

Isn't that what a Furry is? Perhaps it is different elsewhere, but in Texas (where I'm from) and Pennsylvania (where I am now) the term "Furry" is usually exclusively reserved for people who actually dress up as animals to have sex.

Term would be called "Fursuiter"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fursuit

Furry fandom is if you like anthropomorphized animals to a great extent (Somewhat like star fox type animals), it doesn't mean you have to be sexually on it, you can just be a fan of those types of things without it being sexual.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Furry_fandom

According to that second wikipedia article, only 21% of furries have no sexual interest in the topic. And it says furry, not fursuits.

EDIT: Word for word quote: "the remaining 21% stated they have a "non-sexual interest in furry"."

Having checked out the source, there is no source for it, nor numbers.. I hate when they don't list the friggen numbers, 21% could mean from 50,000 people to 5! Ugh.

ZebioLizard2 wrote:

Unit1126PLL wrote:

ZebioLizard2 wrote:

Isn't that what a Furry is? Perhaps it is different elsewhere, but in Texas (where I'm from) and Pennsylvania (where I am now) the term "Furry" is usually exclusively reserved for people who actually dress up as animals to have sex.

Term would be called "Fursuiter"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fursuit

Furry fandom is if you like anthropomorphized animals to a great extent (Somewhat like star fox type animals), it doesn't mean you have to be sexually on it, you can just be a fan of those types of things without it being sexual.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Furry_fandom

According to that second wikipedia article, only 21% of furries have no sexual interest in the topic. And it says furry, not fursuits.

EDIT: Word for word quote: "the remaining 21% stated they have a "non-sexual interest in furry"."

Having checked out the source, there is no source for it, nor numbers.. I hate when they don't list the friggen numbers, 21% could mean from 50,000 people to 5! Ugh.

LOL! The source does indeed 404 me (source 11). But you can certainly see the source of my concern and consternation towards furries in that article.

Unit1126PLL wrote:
Isn't that what a Furry is? Perhaps it is different elsewhere, but in Texas (where I'm from) and Pennsylvania (where I am now) the term "Furry" is usually exclusively reserved for people who actually dress up as animals to have sex.

A furry is just an anthropomorphised animal. The characters from Disney's Robin Hood, Star Fox, and Gummy Bears would all be examples of this in action.

It's also applied to people who like to dress up as furries... And that's not just a sexual thing. Cosplay is just for mostly just for fun.

In the context of the question posed at the start of this thread, the former would be the relevant application. A furry marine army would just be an army made up of anthropomorphic animal space marines.

Milisim wrote:Who cares. I hate all Marines,

Heh. Best comment so far.

Vladsimpaler wrote:

ZebioLizard2 wrote:

motyak wrote:

Kaldor wrote:

Enjoying MLP is indicative of an extremely unhealthy mental state and extremely unhealthy fascination with children and child-like things. It's like creepy old men in trench-coats trying to play with young kids at the park: Maybe he's legit and just likes to play with kids. But more likely...

No, a mental illness is indicated by things like personal suffering, maladaptiveness, irrationality or incomprehensibility (not 'its irrational that someone likes MLP', more 'people who are hallucinating are reacting irrationally because it is false stimulus they respond to'), unpredictability and loss of control, vividness, and more. Liking a television show is not indicative of an extremely unhealthy mental state, nor an unhealthy fascination with children and child-like things.

All of his comments about MLP are like this, he's a bit to obvious in his indications to try and press peoples buttons.

Or perhaps it's a bit closer to the truth than you feel comfortable with?

So... Lauren Faust is part of a mental-illness conpiracy?

motyak wrote:Holy sh** That is a GW TV add. I've never seen a TV add before! That is so cool and cheesy ha

That must have been from so long ago. They were giving something away for FREE!!!

A Town Called Malus wrote:

motyak wrote:Holy sh** That is a GW TV add. I've never seen a TV add before! That is so cool and cheesy ha

That must have been from so long ago. They were giving something away for FREE!!!

4th edition, the battle for Macragge battle set (Tyranids vs Ultramarines)