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I'll just leave that here.

For the record, I don't find either acceptable.

And I just noticed the comment on the picture where K_K says that the heads look too big. Sniff!

Woah woah woah! Wait! You're telling me that there are people out there that play this game that actually LIKE DIFFERENT THINGS THAN OTHER PLAYERS OUT THERE!? That's stupid, and we should ridicule them and make our hate known!

I guess it's been a week since the last bronie-hate fest. This thread is bad and most of you should feel bad.

I don't like either, your statistics are a lie.

Blacksails wrote:I'm not okay with either.

This.

I think they are both pretty stupid, but hey, who am I to tell people what to do with their plastic toy soldiers?

A post I saw that received a feth load of hate....

http://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/179/931/net0lt.jpg

Well, it's pretty much a matter of time till this thread gets locked down. I made my last post at 3am. wake up at 11am and its already halfway down the 3rd page and mostly nothing but flaming now. Geez guys calm down.

I'm just gonna say my last bit and bow out before the thread locks

Ailaros wrote:

MrMoustaffa wrote:Bronies seems to be more of a joke thing.

If it is, it's a pretty bad joke.

"who can be the most irreverant?" humor generally stops being funny once you finish puberty...

Yeah but that's the thing though, they find it funny. And if that's what helps them enjoy the hobby, then I'm not going to stop them. It takes a lot of money, time and effort to get into this hobby. If that's what makes them happy, good for them.

As others have said, you wont have to play them in a local store, and I highly doubt a brony army is going to make it into a tournament anytime soon. Since you'll never HAVE to play them, it should be a nonissue. I know it'd probably still bug some people just that they're in the store, but if they're being obnoxious and annoying the regulars they'll get kicked out. If they're good and are polite, just ignore them and carry on with your game.

Now can we stop the arguing guys? It's getting a little out of hand. And also that wasn't meant to single out Ailaros or anything, that was more of a general response to everyone in this thread who dislikes the MLP thing and whatnot. Most guys here will never even SEE a MLP army, let alone play one, so I don't see why it's such a big deal.

Now, if every third or 4th army being made was a pony army, then yeah, this would be a problem worth raging about. Or, heaven forbid, we get a new space marine codex, the dreaded "Space Stallions", written by Matt ward of course

I'm not surprised that there are people immature enough to care about this either way. If you meet someone with an army of furries, ponies or hello kitties and that's just not your thing then don't play it. Nobody's forcing you to even look at the damn things.

Complaining about it on the internet only wastes my time and yours.

Lord Rogukiel wrote:Well sometimes it's actually nice to take fluff and background seriously, get into the atmosphere of the game and so on. It's like playing a serious videogame without taking it seriously. Sure you may have a lot of fun, but it won't have the same feeling as having a good time while taking the game seriously. Am I making any sense?

Personally I don't like either.

What happens when you play something like orks? Do you just ignore all the crazy and wacky stuff from them and just imagine them like black orcs in space? I mean you've got orks background that's kinda.. hard to take seriously, like the guy who strapped a Battle cannon to his bike, that everytime he fires sends himself back quite a distance, oh and he rammed through a titans void shields, rammed through its face, killed the crew (All while on fire!) Lived, and has the burning skulls adorning his bike.

I originally played orks, I continue to do so to this day. So I generally find myself enjoying both the silliest part of things, and still having a bit of respect for the serious aspects of it.

KhornePysker wrote:The thing is that when a guy draws a furry marine, he is hated

but when a brony does 40k artwork with ponies, he is deemed a clever ironic open minded artist and is considered an advancement of human society and brony society

That is only true with some people. I find both annoying, but I don't give a crap what other people do with their time or money at the end of the day. I'll never end up meeting or playing these folks anyway, so who cares?

Tadashi wrote:

Jidmah wrote:Actually, I think the inquisitorial seal mutated.

This is First Company Battle-Brother Tadashi of the Blood Ravens to the local Inquisitorial Conclave. Request exterminatus fleet be sent against SDFarsight.

Wait I was just the mes...... *signal offline*

I don´t like the advice being thrown around in this thread about "just not playing against someone who´s army scheme you don´t like".

While technically true, refusing to play someone just because you don´t like that they paint their army pink makes you a humorless douchebag. It´s exactly the kind of "herp-derp Warhammer is SERIOUS business" - attitude that annoys the crap out of people and keeps outsiders from trying the game.

Also, complaining about somebodies artwork on the internet makes you a virtual humorless douchebag. Just saying.

The needle is hitting the top sir!

Prep the exterminatus....... prepare to fire

They both suck.

A lot of it boils down to a player's sense of humor. I've had a lot of gak happen to me throughout life, and my way of handling it without going mad is to laugh at everything. Like those hello kitty marines? I laughed hard for a minute. To me that seems like a better response than having an artery bulge and get angry.

Is it really worth the increased blood pressure and shortened lifespan because someone is having fun? Really?

Without getting suspended for making fun of "bronies", (which you guys should really stop calling yourselves that if you want any modicum of respect), I will have to say that I definitely don't mind playing armies with a sense of humor.

For example, THIS is funny to me.


This, well....this is just more than a little weird.


The blood "letters" are a humorous concept whereas converting a bunch of space marines to look like weird ponies that 5 year olds play with will get weird stares, at least where I'm from.

That being said, it's a free country (in good ol' America at least) so you have the right to do whatever you want. Just don't be surprised if other people disagree with it. I have a right to disagree with stuff that I don't like. So stop getting offended about it, mmkay?

:edit: I just realized why the pony space marines are so weird but I laugh at the hello kitty dreadnoughts: It's because the former actually thinks that their army is cool but the latter doesn't take itself seriously at all and know what it's doing.

Kind Regards,
Vladsimpaler

Neither one bothers me.

But hey, haters gotta find something to hate.

I think part of the issue is that the other 'funny' stuff is clever in it's own regard like the bloodletters or just amusingly out of place.

Furrys are also a subgroup of people who have strange personal connections to animals that to lots of 'normal' people (what IS normal, anyway?) seems bizarre and probably makes them uncomfortable.

The problem with 'bronies' is that they're a little too damn proud of the fact that they watch a kids show about talking pastel ponies. Best case, it's a plea for attention, worst case, it's a plea for help. I find the pastels smeared across dakka an eyesore at any rate, which is why we have adblock, but I'm not going to go out of my way to hunt them down and ridicule them either.

The overall problem is that it goes beyond something amusingly out of place and becomes two things; what seems to be an obsession that you can't separate from other functions in your life, and also a glimpse into the uncanny valley of fetishes. Your furry marines remind me that furrys exist, which, personally, weird me out.

It's like the grown men wearing diapers and acting like babies thing.

For example: I made those Hello Kitty marines for a friend's girlfriend for Christmas. She liked them. It was something that happened once, and I get a chuckle out of them now still. In my mind this isn't "bad".

Alternate reality: I have hello kitty plastered all over my avatar and signature on the forum and I repeatedly create threads talking about how the mother kitty shall lead all the nonbelievers to ruin, and my username is ILOVEHELLOKITTY. Now I have a full army of hello kitty marines or what-have-you. This is when it starts to get a little creepy.


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Consider this: I have a llama in disguise for an avatar, and I claim I'm not a llama.

Now consider that every one of my armies is modeled to look like anthropomorphic llamas, and I remind you of them often. Is that funny? Maybe the first time.


Now picture that there are 50 of me.

Horses belong i their own realm. If they wanna cross over then lets send an icon bearer to their world so he can usher in a waves and waves of daemons.......Blood for the Blood God and Skullz for the Skullz Throne

As far as I'm concerned....if I'm to play against armies like Dark Eldar and such...then I'll use whatever army I like. I couldn't give a gak what my opponent thinks of them, much like I think about his army.

The only one that stands out there is Pony marines that are done 100% like the show. An equine-based chaos army could still fit the conventions of fluff. Furry armies already get a stamp of approval from the game's makers in the form of mutants.

Alternate reality: I have hello kitty plastered all over my avatar and signature on the forum and I repeatedly create threads talking about how the mother kitty shall lead all the nonbelievers to ruin, and my username is ILOVEHELLOKITTY. Now I have a full army of hello kitty marines or what-have-you. This is when it starts to get a little creepy.

The mother kitty... Okay that would be more than a bit hilarious to me.

I rather enjoy my little 40k avatars though, they are nicely done so I continue to switch through them. I don't care to extoll anything upon anyone. So what would my measure be considered?

It's a sex/fetish thing?

Well, let's get rid of the Slaaneshi armies and the Dark Eldar, then, too. Oh, and those Sisters of Battle. Strict Nuns (with guns or not) are definitely a fetish-thing.

It's a cross-fictional thing?

Uh, welcome to Warhammer. This is a mish-mash of things inspired by, taken from, stolen whole-cloth, from the last sixty years of Sci-Fi.

It's not "grimdark"?

The furry guys are dudes with the Chaos Gift "Bestial Visage" or "Cross-breed". The ponies? Well, there is the Tau... what with their trying to do the good, right thing, get everyone together in the happy commune of cooperative living and all that....

It's a kids' show?

So is the majority of anime that makes it to western shores, but that doesn't stop full adults from digging Avatar: The Last Airbender, Full-Metal Alchemist, or whatever else is popular on the TV these days. Hell, I'm a big Evangelion and GitS fan, and I'll be 36 later this year, and I will fight any man who disses my Star Wars: Clone Wars.

Personally, I... don't really care. It's their time and money and, if the conversions are done well, then they get kudos for being a skilled modeler. Other than that? As long as you don't get into a hissy and demand that I like the same things you like, and start putting ponies in my sig-line or something, then I really don't care what you do with your time.

Since when is being a furry or brony akin to being a sexual act or a showing of sexual paraphernalia?

I don't know if anyone answered this.

Furrys started as a sex fetish.

MLPs was a way for pedos to send images to one another using the MLP images as... watermarks... covers... I don't know the term.

Infact, some of you with brony images may have pedo stuff on your comps from downloading them.

Furrys started as a sex fetish.

...Anthropomorphic animal's being used as a subculture started long before with several cultures having them worshipped as gods, tricksters, spirits, and various other things. Than it gained some ground with the "Other-kin" Believers who think they were possessed/truly were animals in spirit, it started a long time ago, rather than as a sexual thing. Though there we're some older tales with copulation (Such as a few native american one's, like the tales of the trickster fox)

MLPs was a way for pedos to send images to one another using the MLP images as... watermarks... covers... I don't know the term.

Infact, some of you with brony images may have pedo stuff on your comps from downloading them.

It's technically just called file hiding, there's another term but I can't really remember what it is called, where one would insert a file or hidden encrypted file within other files bit data using pre-made programs or using bit data programs.

Though I highly doubt it was started due to..that.

Ponies are cute.

Then I think there is how most pony marines are ponies dressed up like SMs, but most furry marines are marines with animal heads.

Pony in space armor = cute as hell
Man with wolf head= creepy.

Psienesis wrote:It's a sex/fetish thing?

Well, let's get rid of the Slaaneshi armies and the Dark Eldar, then, too. Oh, and those Sisters of Battle. Strict Nuns (with guns or not) are definitely a fetish-thing.

But the problem is that it's that, AND it's something that doesn't exist in the universe; you're bringing it in via fanfiction (and we ALL know how we feel about fanfiction).

In other words, we have one of those already; don't need more.

It's a cross-fictional thing?

Uh, welcome to Warhammer. This is a mish-mash of things inspired by, taken from, stolen whole-cloth, from the last sixty years of Sci-Fi.

But the problem is that it's that, AND it's a sex/fetish thing, AND it's something that doesn't exist in the universe; you're bringing it in via fanfiction (and we ALL know how we feel about fanfiction).

When GW steals Sci-Fi, they make some effort to shoehorn it into the world such that it keeps the same atmosphere. It's not a direct import of another franchise.

It's not "grimdark"?

The furry guys are dudes with the Chaos Gift "Bestial Visage" or "Cross-breed". The ponies? Well, there is the Tau... what with their trying to do the good, right thing, get everyone together in the happy commune of cooperative living and all that....

But the problem is that it's that, AND it's cross-fictional AND it's a sex/fetish thing, AND it's something that doesn't exist in the universe; you're bringing it in via fanfiction (and we ALL know how we feel about fanfiction).

Some kind of pony breed in the Tau is possible; probable even. If GW were to ever make them though, they wouldn't be pastel with giant eyes.

It's a kids' show?

So is the majority of anime that makes it to western shores, but that doesn't stop full adults from digging Avatar: The Last Airbender, Full-Metal Alchemist, or whatever else is popular on the TV these days. Hell, I'm a big Evangelion and GitS fan, and I'll be 36 later this year, and I will fight any man who disses my Star Wars: Clone Wars.

Personally, I... don't really care. It's their time and money and, if the conversions are done well, then they get kudos for being a skilled modeler. Other than that? As long as you don't get into a hissy and demand that I like the same things you like, and start putting ponies in my sig-line or something, then I really don't care what you do with your time.

There's nothing wrong with watching or even liking kids shows. I enjoy me some Yo Gabba Gabba, but to take it to such an extreme that you're importing it into other things you do becomes strange because it can be interpreted as a fixation.

Wouldn't you expect people to look at you strangely if you were to portray yourself as a Space Marine in real life? Yes, because it's out of place, and real life people will have no understanding or appreciation of it. If you have ponies for avatars and signatures, then you're doing something similar here.

It's the reason why you don't wear your fursuit when you go to Grandma's or when you go to Sears to buy some powertools.

I like you daedalus.

I was going to post some more things, but you covered my feelings perfectly.

Furries are a weird fetish thing.

Bronies watch a show written for prepubescent girls.

I'm going to say both are kind of weird.

Bronies probably get less mocking because they're more aggressive.

I just shake my head at furries in real life (I was friends with a couple in college) and don't take them seriously at all, but I don't care for them in 40k-hence hating Space Wolves. Sorry Wolf lovers, they ARE furries-no two ways about it. The have fur and fangs and some turn into werewolves. Yeah...

As for ponies, I wouldn't play against anyone fielding a MLP army-if I sat down across from it, unless it was a tourney, I'd refuse. You might love MLP, but I don't think it has any place in 40k-please leave it out. This is me asking nicely for the first offense. Next time I rage and smash armies. You have been warned. If someone does it and doesn't see this thread, that's their problem, isn't it?

A few people gave me crap about an Iron Man themed Eldar army-if that isn't okay, ponies and furries SURE as hell aren't okay.

timetowaste85 wrote:I just shake my head at furries in real life (I was friends with a couple in college) and don't take them seriously at all, but I don't care for them in 40k-hence hating Space Wolves. Sorry Wolf lovers, they ARE furries-no two ways about it. The have fur and fangs and some turn into werewolves. Yeah...

As for ponies, I wouldn't play against anyone fielding a MLP army-if I sat down across from it, unless it was a tourney, I'd refuse. You might love MLP, but I don't think it has any place in 40k-please leave it out. This is me asking nicely for the first offense. Next time I rage and smash armies. You have been warned. If someone does it and doesn't see this thread, that's their problem, isn't it?

A few people gave me crap about an Iron Man themed Eldar army-if that isn't okay, ponies and furries SURE as hell aren't okay.

Wait, so you made an army incorporating stuff from outside the 40k universe and had some idiots give you crap about it and that makes other stuff unacceptable?

Who are these few people who have the power to dictate what is and isn't acceptable?

I couldnt care less either way.

How people want to play the game is their own business

(full disclosure - i know a few furries, noone i know is into MLP though, guess its not become big again in the UK)