Why does everyone hate furry marines but okay with pony marines?

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**TheAvengingKnee**

nosferatu1001 wrote:I couldnt care less either way.

How people want to play the game is their own business

(full disclosure - i know a few furries, noone i know is into MLP though, guess its not become big again in the UK)

Your lucky, I go to a college in the US and there are so many people that are into MLP, I can't stand being around them because it is all they ever talk about.
Furries can be a bit weird but at least if I don't have to worry about it as most don't talk about it everyday all day in public places.

As for having them in 40k they really have no place, I would not play against an army of either unless at a tournament where I was forced to.

**timetowaste85**

A Town Called Malus wrote:
timetowaste85 wrote:I just shake my head at furries in real life (I was friends with a couple in college) and don't take them seriously at all, but I don't care for them in 40k-hence hating Space Wolves. Sorry Wolf lovers, they ARE furries-no two ways about it. The have fur and fangs and some turn into werewolves. Yeah...

As for ponies, I wouldn't play against anyone fielding a MLP army-if I sat down across from it, unless it was a tourney, I'd refuse. You might love MLP, but I don't think it has any place in 40k-please leave it out. This is me asking nicely for the first offense. Next time I rage and smash armies. You have been warned. If someone does it and doesn't see this thread, that's their problem, isn't it?

A few people gave me crap about an Iron Man themed Eldar army-if that isn't okay, ponies and furries SURE as hell aren't okay.

Wait, so you made an army incorporating stuff from outside the 40k universe and had some idiots give you crap about it and that makes other stuff unacceptable?

Who are these few people who have the power to dictate what is and isn't acceptable?

Advanced suit of armor...works for both. Repulsor tech vs forcefield tech..pretty similar. Arrogant attitudes...check. Pony vs Horus-um, what? Also, Iron Man wasn't designed for 4 year old girls. I'd be perfectly happy playing against a Star Wars, Marvel, DC, Dune, Aliens, etc style army. You can have your Brony army, but I just won't play it. I'm only stating that if something that isn't too far off-base from 40k doesn't make for an acceptable conversion, a 4 year old girl's show shouldn't make the cut either. Best combination of 40k and MLP I ever saw was the dreadnaught ripping a pony in half with a rainbow flying out. Now THAT model I'd play against!!

**insaniak**

DeffDred wrote:I don't know if anyone answered this.

Furrys started as a sex fetish.

MLPs was a way for pedos to send images to one another using the MLP images as... watermarks... covers... I don't know the term.

I find myself a little curious as to whether you actually believe that, or are just trying to wind people up.

**Razgryz**

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Its fine to theme your army any way you like, really, but that doesn't mean that others HAVE to play against it if they don't approve. Free will and all that. Its also fine for them to express their opinion of your MLP/Furry/Ironman/whatever-themed army, and you are free to ignore them.

**Red Comet**

timetowaste85 wrote:
A Town Called Malus wrote:
timetowaste85 wrote:I just shake my head at furries in real life (I was friends with a couple in college) and don't take them seriously at all, but I don't care for them in 40k-hence hating Space Wolves. Sorry Wolf lovers, they ARE furries-no two ways about it. The have fur and fangs and some turn into werewolves. Yeah...

As for ponies, I wouldn't play against anyone fielding a MLP army-if I sat down across from it, unless it was a tourney, I'd refuse. You might love MLP, but I don't think it has any place in 40k-please leave it out. This is me asking nicely for the first offense. Next time I rage and smash armies. You have been warned. If someone does it and doesn't see this thread, that's their problem, isn't it?

A few people gave me crap about an Iron Man themed Eldar army-if that isn't okay, ponies and furries SURE as hell aren't okay.

Wait, so you made an army incorporating stuff from outside the 40k universe and had some idiots give you crap about it and that makes other stuff unacceptable?

Who are these few people who have the power to dictate what is and isn't acceptable?

Advanced suit of armor...works for both. Repulsor tech vs forcefield tech..pretty similar. Arrogant attitudes...check. Pony vs Horus-um, what? Also, Iron Man wasn't designed for 4 year old girls. I'd be perfectly happy playing against a Star Wars, Marvel, DC, Dune, Aliens, etc style army. You can have your Brony army, but I just won't play it. I'm only stating that if something that isn't too far off-base from 40k doesn't make for an acceptable conversion, a 4 year old girl's show shouldn't make the cut either. Best combination of 40k and MLP I ever saw was the dreadnaught ripping a pony in half with a rainbow flying out. Now THAT model I'd play against!!

Your argument is essentially, "I will only play against conversions I find to be similar to 40k" Seriously? That's the most vague way of what conversions you'll play against. Its not even logical. I don't see why you should deny anyone a game of 40k simply because they made conversions out of MLP toys or any other toys for that matter. Its just ridiculous especially if its a friendly pick up game.

**insaniak**

timetowaste85 wrote:Also, Iron Man wasn't designed for 4 year old girls.

Nor was the MLP cartoon, by all reports. The toys may be intended for young girls, but from all reports the cartoon is aiming for a wider audience. Which is a fairly common tactic in animation... make a show for kids, but keep the writing clever enough to let the parents enjoy it as well.

Besides, why can people only like shows that were designed specifically for their age group? Does the guy writing the show really get to dictate whether or not you're allowed to enjoy it based on your age and gender?

If you enjoy a show, then you enjoy the show. Who it was originally targeted at is really irrelevant.

**vodo40k**

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**Shadowbrand**

This is a furry.

This is a Space Wolf.

Just clarifying. And by now anyone who has been on the internet has come to learn bronies are the scourge of it. They travel in herds. Staining all that is holy and sacred with their strange borderline worship of their pastel Slanneshi warp-spawn. They are merciless and will torment you until you retaliate then they drown you in tears and liquid butthurt.

And it's really fething funny.

However there are men/women who would see the internet not covered in darkness I see them in this thread. And I salute them. Keep them in their own threads and blogs.

Furries are a lot like my fellow Canadians, quiet, keep to themselves and not nearly as obnoxious as the neon colored scourge of the internet/Dakka Dakka.

Shadowbrand out.

**VeteranRookie**

Pilau Rice wrote:
Beastmen existed way way way before Furries, don't tarnish their good name with the same label please.

Wasn't my intention, but fair enough, good sir. Was just trying to get a point across, as they are, aesthetically, the same thing.

**Shadowbrand**

Wait. Beastmen were around earlier then furries? -Wrong- Egyptians had that down thousands of years ago.

Have you seen those dorky Anubis fursuits?

**insaniak**

VeteranRookie wrote:... as they are, aesthetically, the same thing.

They're really not.

'Furries' come with a strong Anime-influenced aesthetic. The design is generally intended to be more cute that genuinely bestial.
Beastmen, on the other hand, are generally only cute by accident.

**Shadowbrand**

Insaniak, thank you for understanding the Beastmen.

**VeteranRookie**

insaniak wrote:
VeteranRookie wrote:... as they are, aesthetically, the same thing.

They're really not.

'Furries' come with a strong Anime-influenced aesthetic. The design is generally intended to be more cute that genuinely bestial.
Beastmen, on the other hand, are generally only cute by accident.

What I meant was that they're both animals given a human-ish physique. Though +1 to you for your Beastmen observation.

**Mr Hyena**

'Furries' come with a strong Anime-influenced aesthetic. The design is generally intended to be more cute that genuinely bestial.

Egyptian-influenced. It goes back a LOT further than Anime. (Anime really only applies to catboys/girls and manga artworks)

**Commisar Von Humps**

MrMoustaffa wrote:. Or, better yet, imagine if you were watching MLP and suddenly a bunch of space marines drop podded in and burned everyone to death with flame throwers and blew open their equine heads like over-ripe melons with depleted duterium explosive ammunition.

I love that idea. LOVE. IT. I used to have no prob with bronieism or whatever, than my 3 brothers started, and won't shut the hell up, I sh*t you not when i say i found certain "writings" open on MY computer

!

All in all though, i think bronies and furies in 40k are just annoying, grow up, you don't have to inject your fantasy into everything. Bronies get upset whenever people hate on them, but if they see it from our point of view, its a show for children. For small, female children. What does that look like if your twenty something and a man? I personally don't think any less of them, its just sort of weird.

**insaniak**

Mr Hyena wrote:Egyptian-influenced. It goes back a LOT further than Anime. (Anime really only applies to catboys/girls and manga artworks)

Not really. While in the broadest sense you technically could apply the 'Furry' tag to any anthropomorphic animal, in common usage it is confined more to animated characters and anime in particular, from what I've seen.

Besides, the Egyptian gods were depicted as people with animal heads, not anthropomorphic animals.

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Commisar Von Humps wrote:...but if they see it from our point of view, its a show for children.

So was the Lion King. I'm not at all ashamed to admit that it's one of my favorite animated movies.

**Mr Hyena**

insaniak wrote:
Mr Hyena wrote:Egyptian-influenced. It goes back a LOT further than Anime. (Anime really only applies to catboys/girls and manga artworks)

Not really. While in the broadest sense you technically could apply the 'Furry' tag to any anthropomorphic animal, in common usage it is confined more to animated characters and anime in particular, from what I've seen.

Besides, the Egyptian gods were depicted as people with animal heads, not anthropomorphic animals.

Somewhat. The basis of it was in Egyptian beliefs and in Native American...but the modern image of it comes from Western animation, primarily Disney.

**ZebioLizard2**

Mr Hyena wrote:
insaniak wrote:
Mr Hyena wrote:Egyptian-influenced. It goes back a LOT further than Anime. (Anime really only applies to catboys/girls and manga artworks)

Not really. While in the broadest sense you technically could apply the 'Furry' tag to any anthropomorphic animal, in common usage it is confined more to animated characters and anime in particular, from what I've seen.

Besides, the Egyptian gods were depicted as people with animal heads, not anthropomorphic animals.

Somewhat. The basis of it was in Egyptian beliefs and in Native American...but the modern image of it comes from Western animation, primarily Disney.

From the beginnings of human behavioural modernity in the Upper Paleolithic, about 40,000 years ago, examples of zoomorphic (animal-shaped) works of art occur that may represent the earliest evidence we have of anthropomorphism. One of the oldest known is an ivory sculpture, the Lion man of the Hohlenstein Stadel, Germany, a human-shaped figurine with a lion's head, determined to be about 32,000 years old

**insaniak**

Yeah, still sounds more like you're talking about anthropomorphism in general, rather than Furries specifically. Because the Furry 'movement' pretty much was spawned by modern cartoons.

**ZebioLizard2**

insaniak wrote:Yeah, still sounds more like you're talking about anthropomorphism in general, rather than Furries specifically. Because the Furry 'movement' pretty much was spawned by modern cartoons.

Oh that difference, I kept seeing Egyptian and the like being thrown around so I thought it was a poke at general anthropomorphism as well.

It's a fandom pretty much, it's like the star trek fandom.

**Commisar Von Humps**

insaniak wrote:
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Commisar Von Humps wrote:...but if they see it from our point of view, its a show for children.

So was the Lion King. I'm not at all ashamed to admit that it's one of my favorite animated movies.

You forgot the last part, small, female, children. Lion King was awesome, classic movie. Not a show that made me want to put a gun barrel in my mouth.

**insaniak**

Commisar Von Humps wrote:You forgot the last part, small, female, children. Lion King was awesome, classic movie. Not a show that made me want to put a gun barrel in my mouth.

But it was still a show intended for children. Should we all be pointing and laughing because you think it's awesome? Why does it make a difference if MLP is intended for girls specifically, rather than just for children in general?

For that matter, what exactly makes it specifically targeted at girls? The fact that it has ponies in it? Does it have a disclaimer at the start of the show saying 'You have to be this short and possess female bits in order to watch this show',,,?

Actually, given what I have heard of the show, I wonder how many of those putting it down for being intended for small girls have even watched an episode?

**Mr Hyena**

Lion King was purely anti-hyena propoganda.

**Commisar Von Humps**

I have watched the intro to the show, and caught several bits here and there. Please tell me that MLP was not intended for small, prepubescent girls after watching it. I'm not saying to go pointing and laughing at them, i'm just saying that its a show that's meant for young girls and that adult males have turned it into something that they constantly turn everything into. And yes i may be generalizing, but its ridiculous.

**LordTyphus**

I don't know about one being better than the other, both from what I've noticed are regarded as a cancerous plague, infecting whatever you love with it's heresy.

Whenever I see a pony/furry thread on a board that's not pony/furry specific it just screams "I want attention"/unintentional trolling, you shouldn't force something disliked by many people onto a board that has nothing to do with the disliked topic.

**motyak**

I opened this thread because I thought 'KhornePsyker, isn't that that ridiculous troll who creates threads and then waits for people to bite'.

I was right. This is the guy behind such classic threads as http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/445257.page and http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/445265.page and http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/433118.page

Someone normally has to point out this guy's old work before people stop biting and attacking each other in his threads. He just enjoys it.

**Shadowbrand**

Well his name -is- Khornate Psyker.

Also, LOL at all the butthurt bronies.

**Chowderhead**

Oh dear lord this is a Khornate Psycher thread.

Got save us all.

**King Pariah**

Oh geez, the guy with the uber waaagh! and op looted baneblade... I should have remembered.

**Vendetta1221**

Well if Khorne is getting psykers....Then ...That means...The first psyker of Khorne will come to being on Dec. 21st....Slaanesh save us...