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Laughing God wrote:Has anyone here made a no gak DIY SM chapter, Chaos Warband, Tyranid splinter fleet, tau sept, ect... that they thought was there good original idea, colors, icons, what have you... then someone else saw it and decided to do the exact same thing? Just curious if that’s happened to anyone and I guess expresses my overall point better.

Well I have a DIY armored regiment and a DIY Marine chapter.

A friend had me paint his LRBTs in my regimental colors, which flattered me.

Another friend copied my paint scheme but not my play style for my chapter, and he doesn't care about fluff. As far as I see it, my chapter's 1st Company Veterans (my army) are very skilled at the core tenets of my chapter's battle-tactics, while his army (another company) represents an overlooked / alternative form of warfare that his company sees as more necessary than my company. Being an Iron Hands successor, the Clan Companies really do act like this sometimes.

I will open this with a compliment dude. Your painting is very nice and the Emperor's Children look great for tabletop!

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Its my own design and my own EC derived warband,

I will however say that they are exactly like any other Emperor's Children force floating around on the internet. Purple, gold, nothing innovative. Now I definitely don't regret piling into this thread earlier, you really did pull the tissues out.

Laughing God wrote:Its my own design and my own EC derived warband, guess it would be like coming up with your own DYI SM chapter then another guy in your group doing the same thing because he thought it was cool without asking or talking to you. Cool? Not cool? Should I not care? How would you feel?

Seriously, did anyone actually read the original post?

He asked for advice, opinions, and similar interactions to prompt a discussion. Disagreeing with his rationale and being direct is one thing, flatly making things up is quite another.

Where did people get the 'tissues' and 'whining' and 'bitching' that they keep bring up again and again? This started out as a perfectly rational discussion that was blown completely out of proportion.

Why? Internet egos? Pure laziness? I guess it is easier to throw out an insult than to actually take the time to understand the situation and perhaps empathize a little.

DoW

I'm totally with OP. How dare that guy use transfers?

Eiríkr wrote:I will open this with a compliment dude. Your painting is very nice and the Emperor's Children look great for tabletop!

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Its my own design and my own EC derived warband,

I will however say that they are exactly like any other Emperor's Children force floating around on the internet. Purple, gold, nothing innovative. Now I definitely don't regret piling into this thread earlier, you really did pull the tissues out.

You are very right, reading back on my first post it seemed very whiny and teenage girlish, but I got over it fast. I blame my biased on being in a small group... or the fact that I was drunk when I posted that. lol I also looked at your Emperors children I got to say I like your work too. I really want to capture the dark gritty work you did with a EC dreadnought and Keeper of Secrets when the new codex comes out. Maybe more wash work? idk Props to you sir and no hard feelings

DogOfWar wrote:

Laughing God wrote:Its my own design and my own EC derived warband, guess it would be like coming up with your own DYI SM chapter then another guy in your group doing the same thing because he thought it was cool without asking or talking to you. Cool? Not cool? Should I not care? How would you feel?

Seriously, did anyone actually read the original post?

He asked for advice, opinions, and similar interactions to prompt a discussion. Disagreeing with his rationale and being direct is one thing, flatly making things up is quite another.

Where did people get the 'tissues' and 'whining' and 'bitching' that they keep bring up again and again? This started out as a perfectly rational discussion that was blown completely out of proportion.

Why? Internet egos? Pure laziness? I guess it is easier to throw out an insult than to actually take the time to understand the situation and perhaps empathize a little.

DoW

Thanks for the defense in a lot of my posts DogOf War, thus is the nature of the internet. Allot is lost in translation and some people react with their emotion at the time and say what they feel rather than what they mean. Just got to let it go, people will post what they post. If people want to contribute to what the OP considers as logical discussion and topic than good, if they want to waste their time with insults and meaningless one to two sentence blirps than nobody can stop them. Maybe they aren’t communicating what they mean well? Maybe we are reading it wrong? Maybe they are A-holes and we should give less of a gak. Idk lol Just don't sweat it.

angel of ecstasy wrote:I'm totally with OP. How dare that guy use transfers?

None of my work is transfers. This to me is a generality as to why I was originally annoyed. I could give 2 gaks if someone uses decals, but if someone used a paint scheme that I was the only one to use out of any of my gaming groups AFTER he saw mine then ya I was a little annoyed. But people are right and it is a developed paint scheme that I have no right over. I'm glad to see that horrendous black and pink isn’t spreading actually lol. I'm not trying to be self-righteous or anything, just never had that happen and wanted other peoples take on it.

Must say though after looking at your own gallery I do love what you did with your own EC. I'm still not a fan of Black and Pink but you not only made it look good but also your conversion work is amazing and probably cost half as much as my army. lol

Laughing God wrote:

AustonT wrote:
I keep coming back to this thread to check if the OP has posted his snowflake pre heresy ECs, still no joy it appears. Maybe his unique PHECs are in fact an Eldar army.

Got around to posting those pics if you want to check them out. I'm not the best painter in the world but it’s MY table top standard I feel. I'll get some pics of the kids units this weekend so you can see the similarities and differences. Kind of moot at this point since I got the F over it pretty quick and it was more of an inspiration that a direct copy after I talked to the kid.

I wouldn't sell yourself short, IMO your ECs are painted beyond just a TT standard. The lighter purple outline style may not be in vogue right now, but I could give two gaks it looks good. I think by now you seem to have realized it's NBD that some other kid painted his gak like yours, or at least I hope you have. Like Erikir said there's nothing overly special or unique about your EC that I would be able to spot from anyone else's.

AustonT wrote: I think by now you seem to have realized it's NBD that some other kid painted his gak like yours, or at least I hope you have. Like Erikir said there's nothing overly special or unique about your EC that I would be able to spot from anyone else's.

I did by the evening I made my first post . No need to worry about that. lol There really isn't, pretty standard pre-heresy EC colors. The fact that I had never seen it myself personally from any other painter in person, then this guy used it right after he saw mine just scratched me the wrong way. Which looking back now is just stupid and I should have been more worried about giving him tips or complimenting him for encouragement. No hard feelings, I see your point and were you were coming from .

Just be passive aggressive about it. Every time he's playing a game just walk up casually, look down at the figures through your nose, shrug and say quietly, "Not real Emperor's Children." Then just walk away.

LaughingGod - I dont really see why I would need to post examples and such in a thread like this, not at all. Im glad you appreciate my being blunt about it. Like I said before in here (least I think I said it, I could be imagining it, if so, pretend I said it) if you have a super original and very cool army idea/paint scheme, for example Grimcogs army http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/271328.page seen here, and someone came in and totally copy catted the idea, I can honestly see why the maker would be annoyed and upset, more so without permission, simply because that is fething hardcore original. Same thing with a painted army, if you went out of your way to make it incredibly yours, and yours alone, NOT a Chapter already talked about in a codex or by GW NOT squad markings on your marines, you know, something original, and not done a million times over. Someone copies that, then yes get angry and get upset. Someone copies your Ultramarines, then stop crying about it and get original

KingCracker wrote:LaughingGod - I dont really see why I would need to post examples and such in a thread like this, not at all. Im glad you appreciate my being blunt about it. Like I said before in here (least I think I said it, I could be imagining it, if so, pretend I said it) if you have a super original and very cool army idea/paint scheme, for example Grimcogs army http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/271328.page seen here, and someone came in and totally copy catted the idea, I can honestly see why the maker would be annoyed and upset, more so without permission, simply because that is fething hardcore original. Same thing with a painted army, if you went out of your way to make it incredibly yours, and yours alone, NOT a Chapter already talked about in a codex or by GW NOT squad markings on your marines, you know, something original, and not done a million times over. Someone copies that, then yes get angry and get upset. Someone copies your Ultramarines, then stop crying about it and get original

You might want to call him, I'm nicking that army.

Yea Grimcog is fething brilliantly badass right? If I ever saw it in person, Id probably punch the dude out and run off with it

KingCracker wrote:Yea Grimcog is fething brilliantly badass right? If I ever saw it in person, Id probably punch the dude out and run off with it

At least your honest. I'd probably tase him.

KingCracker wrote:LaughingGod - I dont really see why I would need to post examples and such in a thread like this, not at all. Im glad you appreciate my being blunt about it. Like I said before in here (least I think I said it, I could be imagining it, if so, pretend I said it) if you have a super original and very cool army idea/paint scheme, for example Grimcogs army http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/271328.page seen here, and someone came in and totally copy catted the idea, I can honestly see why the maker would be annoyed and upset, more so without permission, simply because that is fething hardcore original. Same thing with a painted army, if you went out of your way to make it incredibly yours, and yours alone, NOT a Chapter already talked about in a codex or by GW NOT squad markings on your marines, you know, something original, and not done a million times over. Someone copies that, then yes get angry and get upset. Someone copies your Ultramarines, then stop crying about it and get original

Well said and I agree

Just stopping by to say WOW THIS IS STILL GOING ON. but seriously still lol

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