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So I have played Emperors Children since 3rd edition. I painted the whole army myself in pre-heresy gold and purple with a lot of dark washes and pink/green details. There is this kid at the gaming club I'm with that saw my army and was a huge fan because he painted a squad of his the usual black and pink and it looks like crap. So the next week I stroll into the club and he has a whole squad the same color as my army! I'm not saying I own the rights to my color scheme or anything but I kind of pride myself on its uniqueness and the effort I put into it. He didn't ask if he could use the same scheme he just started showing up with the same scheme. I might be over reacting but is it wrong for me to be a little angry that he just took my paint scheme without telling me?

Its my own design and my own EC derived warband, guess it would be like coming up with your own DYI SM chapter then another guy in your group doing the same thing because he thought it was cool without asking or talking to you. Cool? Not cool? Should I not care? How would you feel?

Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery.

Honestly if someone painted their Leman Russes in the color of my armored regiment, I'd be flattered.

Obviously you care to make a post about it . But if you just roll up and tell the kid your paint scheme you will be seen a bit ...

It seems like you are overreacting huuuge time to me.

There are some things in life that matter.

This is not one of them.

Laughing God wrote:I painted the whole army myself in pre-heresy gold and purple with a lot of dark washes

Laughing God wrote:Its my own design

Which one is it? Your own unique colour scheme or pre-heresey emperor's children?

Laughing God wrote:Should I not care?

Yes, you shouldn't care.

Especially if you'd just painted them in standard pre-H EC colours.

pizzaguardian wrote:Obviously you care to make a post about it . But if you just roll up and tell the kid your paint scheme you will be seen a bit ...

It seems like you are overreacting huuuge time to me.

Since I actually didn't say anything to the kid and the only action I took was post about it on a online forum I would actually say I didn't overact HUGE... did it annoy me? yes did I do anything about it? not really

So my question now is have any of you been in the same situation? have you made your own paint scheme then some one saw it and copied it exactly?

Yes it is based off of the pre-heresy EC but only in the sense that its purple and gold, other than that the details and washes and highlights are my own.

Now all I did was look at the models and tell him they look pretty good, because they did. You guys are saying it wouldn’t bother you or annoy you at all that if you made your own army and paint scheme and someone did the exact same thing after seeing yours without asking you it wouldn’t bother you?

Immitation is the ultimate form of flattery maybe I should be giving him tips instead of bitching about it.

Laughing God wrote:Immitation is the ultimate form of flattery maybe I should be giving him tips instead of bitching about it.

Definitely. Maybe even help him to find his own colour scheme that he likes? (Not that he shouldn't go pre-H EC just because you have....)

This would be like someone in my club made a space wolf army and painted them an offshoot blue/ grey because they liked mine. Would I be annoyed...nope. Space wolves are wolves and there are only so many ways you can do the blues and greys. I suspect this would be the same with EC pre-Hersey or post.

Now if said person showed up with exact bases and army list I might ask him what's going on lol. In the end though it's his army so you can't do anything about it even if he did it.

Coolyo294 wrote:Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery.

This, if someone came in with a Guard army based off of my many different guard platoons/companies I would be flattered and be interested in getting a better look.


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Laughing God wrote:
Immitation is the ultimate form of flattery maybe I should be giving him tips instead of bitching about it.

Yes, start up a conversation, maybe he can give you some ideas too, he obviously knows it well enough and likes it enough to paint it.

Laughing God wrote:

pizzaguardian wrote:Obviously you care to make a post about it . But if you just roll up and tell the kid your paint scheme you will be seen a bit ...

It seems like you are overreacting huuuge time to me.

Since I actually didn't say anything to the kid and the only action I took was post about it on a online forum I would actually say I didn't overact HUGE... did it annoy me? yes did I do anything about it? not really

So my question now is have any of you been in the same situation? have you made your own paint scheme then some one saw it and copied it exactly?

Yes it is based off of the pre-heresy EC but only in the sense that its purple and gold, other than that the details and washes and highlights are my own.

Now all I did was look at the models and tell him they look pretty good, because they did. You guys are saying it wouldn’t bother you or annoy you at all that if you made your own army and paint scheme and someone did the exact same thing after seeing yours without asking you it wouldn’t bother you?

Immitation is the ultimate form of flattery maybe I should be giving him tips instead of bitching about it.

Yes, it would not bother me. The only thing that i can find remotely annoting about this is we might mix the models in a battle (lol) or it would be boring to see the same army over and over, but this already happens with MEQ armies.

And if somebody actually makes a chapter of my own SM chapter i would be delighted, who knows maybe dan abnett might write a book about it someday.(one can hope)

It depends on the situation.

My armies each have their own backstory that I've created for them. I would be aggravated if someone tried to copy it, or painted their stuff to match mine and tried to say it was another platoon of my force.

My fluff, not yours.

Other than that, I wouldn't be annoyed unless people were complimenting him on it, and he claimed that it was his original idea.

This kid must have the best eye for detail and paint and be able to refer to his photographic memory if he was capable of seeing your models once and then know exactly which base,paints and washes you used on your models to be able to mimic your "unique" army.

I use a pre heresy emperors children scheme as well. It isn't uncommon. But if he was truly able to see your models once and then come in with a matching paint scheme there are two possibilities I can think of.
One, your paint scheme isn't nearly as unique as you think. Two, his paint scheme outside of being purple and gold has little to nothing to do with your own scheme.

Laughing God wrote:So I have played Emperors Children since 3rd edition. I painted the whole army myself in pre-heresy gold and purple with a lot of dark washes and pink/green details. There is this kid at the gaming club I'm with that saw my army and was a huge fan because he painted a squad of his the usual black and pink and it looks like crap. So the next week I stroll into the club and he has a whole squad the same color as my army!

Yeah....and?

I'm not saying I own the rights to my color scheme or anything but I kind of pride myself on its uniqueness and the effort I put into it.

OK.

He didn't ask if he could use the same scheme he just started showing up with the same scheme.

He doesn't really have to ask....I mean, You just acknowledged that you own no rights to your colour scheme...

I might be over reacting

I think you are.

but is it wrong for me to be a little angry that he just took my paint scheme without telling me?

Yes

Its my own design and my own EC derived warband, guess it would be like coming up with your own DYI SM chapter then another guy in your group doing the same thing because he thought it was cool without asking or talking to you. Cool? Not cool? Should I not care? How would you feel?

Cool.

Well if someone copied my unique theme and didn't ask, I'd be royal ticked. Especially if they hadn't asked.

However, there's not much you can do about it. Roll him into your force as an aspiring champion to your Legion Commander and be thrilled you have a fan. Maybe even develop a back story that folds his force and yours together.

It seems like his own ec weren't great and seeing yours gave him an idea on how to improve your own you should be flattered.

Also if it's just a kid give him advice and help him make them better rather than getting upset that he used your colourscheme,

Grow up mate. Come on now....

Laughing God wrote:So I have played Emperors Children since 3rd edition. I painted the whole army myself in pre-heresy gold and purple with a lot of dark washes and pink/green details. There is this kid at the gaming club I'm with that saw my army and was a huge fan because he painted a squad of his the usual black and pink and it looks like crap. So the next week I stroll into the club and he has a whole squad the same color as my army! I'm not saying I own the rights to my color scheme or anything but I kind of pride myself on its uniqueness and the effort I put into it. He didn't ask if he could use the same scheme he just started showing up with the same scheme. I might be over reacting but is it wrong for me to be a little angry that he just took my paint scheme without telling me?

Its my own design and my own EC derived warband, guess it would be like coming up with your own DYI SM chapter then another guy in your group doing the same thing because he thought it was cool without asking or talking to you. Cool? Not cool? Should I not care? How would you feel?

Hey you just got yourself a fan
Bask in the glory while you can

Sounds like he was genuinely impressed and inspired by your scheme. If that's the case, I'd be very humbled by it, that somebody said "wow, thats an awesome paint idea! I'd love to have an army like that!" As long as he isnt taking credit for it and claiming it's his idea I see no problem in it. And if it's inspired by their main colors anyways, then thats kind of like an ultramarines player being mad because another UM player used the same blue as him (aka wierd).

I was inspired to use gunmetal, red, and gold as my main colors for my guard army by 2 local space marine players. One is GK and the other is Iron warriors counts as SW They even realized it and now we joke that I'm muscling in in on the "red" armies.

RL;DR: I dont see any harm in it. He used what he learned from you to improve his crappy paint scheme. As long as he's not claiming it was his idea no harm no foul.

I get very angry whenever I see someone copy my Necron paint scheme, because I took the time to copy the paint scheme from the GW website, and so now I own the rights to that colour scheme.

I copied someones scheme for my nids but I asked them first. they are a dakkite!

they live in the U.K. I live in the States.

The hive fleet spreads!

MUNCHIES FOR THE MUNCH MIND! Hom nom nom nom nom

I admit I would kind of be annoyed if someone copied a scheme I had thought out myself, such as my Eldar one, but then again, if somebody's copying your colour scheme, it will probably be impossible to get the exact same looking colours.

Damn.

My entire plog is based on your work, Laughing God. Thanks for inventing pre heresy Emperor's Children. Keep up the good work. But since you already painted up pre heresy EC, I guess I'll just melt mine down.

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Grow up. Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery. How old are you? Talk to the kid, get to know him. He's probably sweating his balls off just to be a little like you and would love the chance to talk with you.
EDIT: I see that you are a US Marine... Wow, dude. Just wow...

Und yet i see no pictures of these alleged minis in your gallery...

This is why my vehicles are digital camo patterned. It isn't worth the effort to other people to mimic. And if they want to try and mimic my guards-women they are welcome to try. Not like my uniform colors are super unique.

Personally, I would be angry, especially if they tried to claim it as their own or if they tried to write their army into my fluff.

I don't have anyone attempting my painting.

But there is someone who tries to re-create my constuction/fluff in his IG (or every army hes had)

I have a Scrapyard/Experimental Imperial Guard army. He started with Eldar and tried to do the same thing with them, which involved dismantling a Stormraven and randomly glueing the doors and other parts to a fire prism amoung other attempts, as he went through armies. starting with Eldar, then Grey kNights, then Chaos with Space wolves (all at the same time) then now IG with Eldar on the side.

He continues with attempts like strapping a Hamemrhead Tau Railgun turret to a Leman Russ and calling it a "Ice Cannon"

Its flattering that he tries to do what i do, but his attempts and their outcomes are... well..... Bad... which is the only thing that irks me (as well as other people in the store)
Im fine with him doing it but sometimes.... Its only a matter of time before he attempts my paintjob, hes currecntly on Purple, Teal, and Gold with his IG. compared to my Metallic Silver, Dark Bronze, Black, Red and Gold.

WHen he attempts my paint then there will be issues.

WOW

so many people here are against the OP...i'm actually surprised. well maybe not against, more like of a different opinion and feel.

but i have to say, if you put a lot of effort into your army and then someone comes along and copys it, i'm thinking same paint scheme, same models same list and all that jazz...well i would be really pissed.

it would totally deflate me, here is someone who has totally ripped off my theme and army...i would be totally deflated.

on the other hand i paint my armys very similar to GW enough to say i copy cat GW...so seeing an army similar to mine would not be a surprise. I would love someone to come up and say oh man that looks awesome, i wanna paint mine like that. Well i would be bananas to try and help then, i would tell them the paints i used the techniques and brushes and everything so they might be able to copy me.

but someone just showing up, and then re-painting their army and changing their list to mine the next week with out talking to me about it or inquiring about stuff..well i would be very annoyed enough to sell the whole army nd start a new one. Even if it is a similar style to GW.

so shoot me i like to be an individualist like everyone else

I don't really mind to tell the truth. There's a couple that I know of that have taken a scheme. Just go with it, even as far as to provide tips if asked.

Because in the end there is really only a certain amount of ways colours that work together can go. I guess you could also say it can motivate you to try harder knowing people pay that much attention to the details of it, or to move into making it even more unique through trophies, conversions even reposing. I suppose the standard schemes also shouldn't count unless you've put enough of a twist to it to make it "unique". Short of making the models yourself there is no being completely unique.

I'd love to have so few concerns in my life that I have the luxury of getting worked up over someone painting some plastic men the same way I did.

Bookwrack wrote:There are some things in life that matter.

This is not one of them.

Basically this.