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LordofHats wrote:

2% of the world's females suffer from Graves' disease, so about 140,000,000 women worldwide. It's a bit rarer in males. That's only a single disorder and it creates a significant minority.

Define significant. 140,000,000 is a significant number in and of itself. 2% however is an insignificant number, even if that number is 140,000,000. EDIT: Or as comrade Stalin says, a statistic

Math is fun

Significant is a relative term. It depends entirely on who is reading the statistics.

mattyrm wrote:

deathholydeath wrote:
In many cases, Obesity is a genetic or environmental issue and has little to do with how "in shape" one really is. Take Sumo Wrestlers for an example.

Oh come on man! That's just PC nonsense... in many cases!? Hardly any!

Seriously.. SOME people are obese for genetic issues, but 99% of obese people are obese because the fat feths eat too many cakes and don't do enough exercise!

Actually, genetic issues are not the only reason. I am considered obese. 5'10 240 pounds. The way I am built, 180 pounds is my ideal weight.

This is a pipe dream for me. Not because I am lazy, but because of my job. I work 12 hour shifts at night. I get home as the sun is coming up. I have about 2-3 hours after I get home to take care of daily things around the house before I need to be back in bed.

When I am off work, in order for me to have any recreational time with friends, I usually need to completely change up my sleeping schedule to hang out with them. Couple that with already having sleeping problems bases on my shift, and you have a terrible time. I can either stay up for a full 24 to 36 hours to re adjust while I am off work or I can stay on my normal schedule and be solitary and alone.

Either way, I am usually left too tired to manage exercise because my body is having a hard time dealing with my current sleep schedule. When the sun first goes down, I start to get sleepy, because my body thinks that no sun time is sleepy time. This is usually after I have been awake 3 or so hours.

So, there is an environmental reason somebody could be obese. Another environmental reason could be allergies and sinuses, serious cases of this leave a lot of people too weak for many activities. Depression is another reason.

deathholydeath wrote:A number of my friends have been unable to find sustainable jobs after graduation; I wouldn't want to be in their shoes.

Blood from a stone.

Dreadwinter wrote:
This is a pipe dream for me. Not because I am lazy, but because of my job. I work 12 hour shifts at night. I get home as the sun is coming up. I have about 2-3 hours after I get home to take care of daily things around the house before I need to be back in bed.

When I am off work, in order for me to have any recreational time with friends, I usually need to completely change up my sleeping schedule to hang out with them. Couple that with already having sleeping problems bases on my shift, and you have a terrible time. I can either stay up for a full 24 to 36 hours to re adjust while I am off work or I can stay on my normal schedule and be solitary and alone.

Either way, I am usually left too tired to manage exercise because my body is having a hard time dealing with my current sleep schedule. When the sun first goes down, I start to get sleepy, because my body thinks that no sun time is sleepy time. This is usually after I have been awake 3 or so hours.

I just started night shift. I've found that sleeping less actually helps a bit (around 6 hours a ''night''). Otherwise, any good tips to avoid feeling like a zombie?

The one thing I find is that I'm no longer hungry. I'll sometimes eat an apple when I should eat a meal, and even then, I'm forcing myself to...

It is a tricky thing man. I can survive on 6 hours a night. I have also found that an hour or two nap and I am pretty good for 8 or so hours.

Eating is an issue because sometimes I forget to take food to work and don't realize I haven't eaten until 8 or so hours in to it. So make sure you remember you still need to eat, because that will hit you hard. Don't force yourself to eat too much. You can easily over eat in that case. If you just started, give yourself time to adjust to it. You still start to get your hunger back.

Summer isn't as bad as winter. You will really have trouble then. You go in to work at night and get off work with it still dark. Gotta make sure to get as much sun as you can. Drink plenty of vitamin c also. Odd sleep hours and lack of sun jacks up your immune system like you wouldn't believe. Grape juice and orange juice are your buddies.

Kovnik Obama wrote:Otherwise, any good tips to avoid feeling like a zombie?

I don't work a night shift, but I do pull overnight "shifts" often. My suggestions are caffeine, water, and hourly breaks.

Dreadwinter wrote:It is a tricky thing man. I can survive on 6 hours a night. I have also found that an hour or two nap and I am pretty good for 8 or so hours.

Eating is an issue because sometimes I forget to take food to work and don't realize I haven't eaten until 8 or so hours in to it. So make sure you remember you still need to eat, because that will hit you hard. Don't force yourself to eat too much. You can easily over eat in that case. If you just started, give yourself time to adjust to it. You still start to get your hunger back.

Summer isn't as bad as winter. You will really have trouble then. You go in to work at night and get off work with it still dark. Gotta make sure to get as much sun as you can. Drink plenty of vitamin c also. Odd sleep hours and lack of sun jacks up your immune system like you wouldn't believe. Grape juice and orange juice are your buddies.

Thanks! I might not be doing this during the winter, unless the student strike continues, but if I do I'll make sure to do a crapload of snowshoeing during the day. And of course I've already caught a cold, despite the average temp outside being what, 27 degrees?

@Dogma ; Thanks too! Yeah caffeine is currently my greatest ally. I'll need to start doing more sports too, since I'm feeling completely wracked all the time...

Kovnik Obama wrote:

Dreadwinter wrote:
This is a pipe dream for me. Not because I am lazy, but because of my job. I work 12 hour shifts at night. I get home as the sun is coming up. I have about 2-3 hours after I get home to take care of daily things around the house before I need to be back in bed.

When I am off work, in order for me to have any recreational time with friends, I usually need to completely change up my sleeping schedule to hang out with them. Couple that with already having sleeping problems bases on my shift, and you have a terrible time. I can either stay up for a full 24 to 36 hours to re adjust while I am off work or I can stay on my normal schedule and be solitary and alone.

Either way, I am usually left too tired to manage exercise because my body is having a hard time dealing with my current sleep schedule. When the sun first goes down, I start to get sleepy, because my body thinks that no sun time is sleepy time. This is usually after I have been awake 3 or so hours.

I just started night shift. I've found that sleeping less actually helps a bit (around 6 hours a ''night''). Otherwise, any good tips to avoid feeling like a zombie?

The one thing I find is that I'm no longer hungry. I'll sometimes eat an apple when I should eat a meal, and even then, I'm forcing myself to...

Melatonin supplements work really well, you can find 'em at trader joes or most pharmacies. Take one pefer bed and not only will it knock you but it helps adjust you bodies circadian rhythm. Melatonin
is the chemical your body produces that makes you drowsy and force you to actually sleep.

Oh and if you do find yourself never encountering sun ever, then you might want to find someway to actually simulate sunlight, a sunlight bulb if possible. It may not effect you but a lot of people will go into horrible crippling depression during the winter months, especially if your asleep during daylight.

Melissia wrote:

Shadowseer_Kim wrote:The point of an entry level no skill job is not to make ends meet

And yet,, despite your lame excuse of an explanation, it still needs to.

No, it doesn't actually.


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Ouze wrote:

Melissia wrote:

Shadowseer_Kim wrote:A large part of why teens/young adults can not find jobs is the ever increasing minimum wage.

your theory doesn't pan out. Georgia has a lower minimum wage than Texas but has more unemployment than Texas, New York, etc., which have higher minimum wages, do.

QFT; since this was a great point and so was completely ignored.

so far as paying back student loans; Horst made it sound like your boned if you can't pay it back but you can apply for various different things to (temporarily) either pay it back partially or not at all for some durations. Look into income-based repayment, in which payments are lessened or completely stop until you hit a certain income threshold. You must apply for one every year, and the interest doesn't stop; but it only takes a single double sided form and you must supply a tax return.

Thats what happens when government takes over the loan business. If it were private, you'd just file.


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Melissia wrote:I've seen no evidence that the current group of youths is any lazier than any other group of youths in the past.

My neighbor belies that statement (unless we were always that lazy).


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There's an additional point you're not discussing.
Unless you have skills (technical/trade) you have to compete with people who may have literally risked their lives to get here to try to do the same job you're applying for. They are going to do a better job than you can, and are willing to be paid less to do it.


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Melissia wrote:I learned from personal experience. My family never was much in to cooking meals, but I enjoy cooking for family...

In my day of shining youth,cooking was for the wimminz. Hunting the mastadons was the job of the menz.

Back to the topic of youth unemployment, I have heard many journalist reports of older people staying in the workforce longer, while youth unemployment keeps rising. That seems inefficient for a society to operate.

In addition, as mor eand more of the simple work becomes automated, that leaves a serious gap at the lower end of the employment food chain.

How do you suppose society can adapt to these two changing conditions?

Learn how to repair automated equipment

Oh, the Willy Wonka solution.

The problem is you only need a handful of repairmen for a multiple factories, where the factories use to employ many more people.

That's how an individual can solve for themselves, but what about the larger society?

Easy E wrote:Oh, the Willy Wonka solution.

The problem is you only need a handful of repairmen for a multiple factories, where the factories use to employ many more people.

That's how an individual can solve for themselves, but what about the larger society?

Hope you live long enough that fusion power and replicater's are invented then never worry about everything ever again

Easy E wrote:Back to the topic of youth unemployment, I have heard many journalist reports of older people staying in the workforce longer, while youth unemployment keeps rising. That seems inefficient for a society to operate.

In addition, as mor eand more of the simple work becomes automated, that leaves a serious gap at the lower end of the employment food chain.

How do you suppose society can adapt to these two changing conditions?

Get rid of kids?


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Easy E wrote:Oh, the Willy Wonka solution.

The problem is you only need a handful of repairmen for a multiple factories, where the factories use to employ many more people.

That's how an individual can solve for themselves, but what about the larger society?

Gladiator Academy?

Apply for positions that make the automated parts. The best bet the younger generation can do is project in advance where/what/when jobs are in demand. See what one skill they can learn that'll be able to branch off into other fields.

Example. I'm currently a 88N Movement Coordinator. Logistical.
Most people think trucks which is true
I know rail operations (it sucks) Space utilization on a rail flatbed can be interesting in figuring out. Most time its coming up with the right chain tie downs

I also know Seaport operation to load container ships

I also know Airport operations. I know what I can load and what I can't load on certain aircraft. In whatever configuration to maxumize loadout

I know HAZMAT. I can prepare and signed HAZDECS for dangerous cargo

lot more to it but thats an idea. Once you get a security clearence the ballfield just got bigger. Pay though is a big increase

So basically...research whats going to be in demand.2-3 down the road

Jihadin wrote:Apply for positions that make the automated parts. The best bet the younger generation can do is project in advance where/what/when jobs are in demand. See what one skill they can learn that'll be able to branch off into other fields.

Yeah, the problem is people are pretty bad at this predictign the future thing. HHowever, on that front I found this article from Forbes somewhat interesting.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/richkarlgaard/2012/02/22/manpowergroups-jeff-joerres-on-the-skills-gap/

here is another one about the dreaded "Plumber Gap" from Popular Mechanics...

http://www.popularmechanics.com/home/improvement/electrical-plumbing/4305487

Frazzled wrote:My neighbor belies that statement (unless we were always that lazy).

And I'm 26 and "Dr." goes in front of my name.

There are always exceptions.

TheWildHost wrote:

LordofHats wrote:Yep. I'm working part time nights at FedEx loading trucks because even when I can get a job interview (which is maybe 1 out of every 15 applications I fill out) I usually lose the job to someone older with more experience. Lots of jobs I don't get considered for at all probably cause they say they want experience I don't have.

Could it be possible to lie about your experience? I may sound dumb by saying this, but it would make sense.

As soon as they catch you in the lie you're out the door with a bad reference. And it's remarkably easy to catch someone lying about their experience.


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I have recently given up on permanent employment and gone with a temp agency. It took them under an hour to find me a full-time, M-F 2nd shift position.

Granted, there's no telling how long it will last, but at least it's full time.

The bennies aren't all that great, but they are no worse than those available to the fast food places I've worked in the past... and the insurance costs about a THIRD of what the typical restaurant or retail job would offer.

And worst comes to worst, I'm no worse off than before. Best case it's a 'temp to hire' position and I can parlay my gained experience into a permanent position.

dogma wrote:

Frazzled wrote:My neighbor belies that statement (unless we were always that lazy).

And I'm 26 and "Dr." goes in front of my name.

There are always exceptions.

yea but you're not living next to frazzled, and worrying him about not getting off his lawn...