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I get what Fraz is saying. In Darkseids first appearance on the cartoon show justice league halfway through the episode Superman suddenly gets a power upgrade and tells darkseid that he(superman) had always been holding back, always pulling his punches until now, because he knows Darksied can take it.

He'd already fought multiple earth destroying/conquering forces with the rest of the justice league.

Scrabb wrote:In Darkseids first appearance on the cartoon show justice league halfway through the episode Superman suddenly gets a power upgrade and tells darkseid that he(superman) had always been holding back, always pulling his punches until now, because he knows Darksied can take it.

That little speech was from the last episode from Justice League Unlimited, which aired in 2006, ten years after Superman: The Animated Series first aired. It was not the first appearance of Darkseid in the DC Animated Universe by a long shot. It is a fairly famous scene, so it is easy to remember. He doesn't get a power upgrade, he just doesn't hold anything back like he normally does, and yet...

Ahtman wrote:That little speech was from the last episode from Justice League Unlimited, which aired in 2006, ten years after Superman: The Animated Series first aired. It was not the first appearance of Darkseid in the DC Animated Universe by a long shot. It is a fairly famous scene, so it is easy to remember. He doesn't get a power upgrade, he just doesn't hold anything back like he normally does...

Thanks for clearing that up. I should have said the first episode I saw Darkseid in. I kind of watched them randomly. But isn't that worse? the last episode of the show we learn that one of our heroes was pulling his punches on everyone he's ever fought. That's fairly powerful.

That's not to say I haven't enjoyed Superman. I just like him best when I'm not watching bullets bounce off of him. The Superman/Batman comics are good too. I like the way he and batman work off each other.

Scrabb wrote:

Ahtman wrote:That little speech was from the last episode from Justice League Unlimited, which aired in 2006, ten years after Superman: The Animated Series first aired. It was not the first appearance of Darkseid in the DC Animated Universe by a long shot. It is a fairly famous scene, so it is easy to remember. He doesn't get a power upgrade, he just doesn't hold anything back like he normally does...

Thanks for clearing that up. I should have said the first episode I saw Darkseid in. I kind of watched them randomly. But isn't that worse? the last episode of the show we learn that one of our heroes was pulling his punches on everyone he's ever fought. That's fairly powerful.

It isn't that he was holding back, it is why he was holding back. If he were to go full out all the time people would get injured far more often, buildings destroyed to a much greater extent, and he would probably kill several enemies, something he won't do*.

Really though, it is also a bit of an odd statement considering over the series (Superman to JL to JLU) he fought on other planets and in conditions where he could cut lose, and indeed was required to to have a chance of overcoming his adversaries. I think in the end they went with the line of dialogue because it sounded cool at the time.


*Generally. He has actually has lost control emotionally once or twice and done some things he wasn't proud of.

This was discovered/leaked online t'other day.

It is, obviously, very much a WIP -- I guess one could count this as Routh's 2nd film perhaps ? -- but it does seem to contain some spoilers about characters and the like.