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kb305 wrote:
this thread started off great but took a turn for the stupid when people said Sguard, astorath etc

No, it started off great and it ceased being great to you when it bashed things you like.

I don't like nipples on my armor either. I also don't like the back parts of the IG flak vest that serve no function outside of helping attach vox units and such to the model. Because of that I saw them off and smooth it down to look like they were never there. You can bet that if they had nipples on those vests I'd sand them off too.

Does that make me immature? No, it makes me someone with an opinion.

Because of how new they are, I have to say the Mutilators are the WORST models available. Old sculpts are old, and have an excuse.

Mutilators? NO EXCUSE!

Isn't the Mutilator an old body sculpt (Oblits) with some new arms, or did they really sculpt a new matching fugly body to match the old ones?

Mutilators/Oblits are the ugliest things, although any model with random muscle bundles connected to the wrong piece of anatomy is in the same fail category.

The Mutilators are all new, they look really close to Oblits but some things are different, the one that stands out for me is that the heads are different, there are some bionics on the Oblits. I do have to agree that they are really ugly for new models.

 CrashCanuck wrote:
The Mutilators are all new, they look really close to Oblits but some things are different, the one that stands out for me is that the heads are different, there are some bionics on the Oblits. I do have to agree that they are really ugly for new models.

...Wow. I always wondered about that.

Pretty inexcusable for new models. I wonder what water heard looked at the master sculpt and said "hmmmm this looks good!"

 Necroshea wrote:

kb305 wrote:
this thread started off great but took a turn for the stupid when people said Sguard, astorath etc

No, it started off great and it ceased being great to you when it bashed things you like.

I don't like nipples on my armor either. I also don't like the back parts of the IG flak vest that serve no function outside of helping attach vox units and such to the model. Because of that I saw them off and smooth it down to look like they were never there. You can bet that if they had nipples on those vests I'd sand them off too.

Does that make me immature? No, it makes me someone with an opinion.

someone called them "twlight marines" so by that logic space puppies are also "twilight marines". atleast blood red>baby blue.

sanguinary guard is an extremely customizable kit. if you dont like the wings, leave them off. if you dont like the nipples, sand them off.

i dont see how you could argue Sguard for "worst sculpted GW mini". the poses are nice, the sculpts are nice, the options are nice.

▲ I think you're right kb. Sang guard and such aren't bad sculpts at all, it's just that some don't like them. And I think you're correct to differentiate between "worst sculpts available" and "models I don't like". There are plenty of terrifically sculpted models, that I really don't like. Actually, you could probably put my original post of mutilators in that category. They aren't terribly sculpted models, I just don't like them.

I'm actually starting to feel a bit guilty about this whole thread. Dunno about you guys, but I certainly couldn't sculpt any of these models.... suppose I'm not paid to, right enough.

I think a lot of the models mentioned could just generally do with an update/resculpt. Mutilators aren't particularly aesthetically pleasing but then they are supposed to look quite hideous, the fur on the wolves is a problem for me though. I like the model's overall but the fur just looks too spikey... but that might just be the way its painted and not so much the sculpt.

^ pretty much...

 angel of ecstasy wrote:
Daemonettes are beauties.

3rd ed are, yes. The two posted above... not so much.

Surely there is a difference between a bad sculpt, i.e. a figure which is badly proportioned, has poor quality detailing, etc and a badly designed figure. The sister dialogus is a perfectly technically good miniature but it just looks like a librarian shouting. I think it's quite refreshing compared to all the silly tight tops, fur bikinis etc that female miniatures tend to have. It's not inspiring but it is at least different. Same with the dark apostle, it's a fine technical sculpt but too busy for some.

There are some genuinely bad figures, poorly designed with pathetic features and slovenly attention to detail. They are rare but think of Eldar wraithguard, old dark eldar warriors, etc. They are bad figures not badly designed figures.

 Anfauglir wrote:

 angel of ecstasy wrote:
Daemonettes are beauties.

3rd ed are, yes. The two posted above... not so much.

I miss 3rd Daemonettes
They were what Slaanesh was about. But then GW got prudish...maybe they were afraid that they would receive the DnD treatment.

I also miss the cloven hooved bloodletters, for that matter; they looked like they could kill stuff, you know?

Baby-Carrier (Dreadknight), the Chibi-Hawk (Storm Raven), the Space-Guppy (Stormtalon), the Pumbagore (Razorgore) and Mutilators. All terrible, or terribly disappointing, or both.

 SoloFalcon1138 wrote:
...and from the new complaints department head, too...

Say what now? I've been usurped?

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Baby-Carrier (Dreadknight), the Chibi-Hawk (Storm Raven), the Space-Guppy (Stormtalon), the Pumbagore (Razorgore) and Mutilators. All terrible, or terribly disappointing, or both.

 SoloFalcon1138 wrote:
...and from the new complaints department head, too...

Say what now? I've been usurped?

You forgot Fabulous Ones (Flayed Ones) and Dark Soprano (Dark Apostle). Though to be fair, at least I could see the idea behind the soprano...its just that the execution is laughable, although easily corrected with a modelling knife.

 TheCaptain wrote:
"OH GOD WHAT HAVE WE DONE"

Created what is one of the few (or perhaps the only) Guard unit that actually looks like it belongs in 40K, rather than some period piece. It’s rare that GW does something that looks like the Blanche’s scribble-art stuff, but the Vostroyans are a good example.

They’re more 40K than most things are.

And yes, it appears that Kaldor and I can agree on something...

Look at them. LOOK.

And this was before I could get the checker patterns and Blade Runner-esque bands of warpaint on them. But yet, they're also awesome at the same time. While not readily available from GW, they can be found on the secondary market, so could these count?

 CthuluIsSpy wrote:
You forgot Fabulous Ones (Flayed Ones) and Dark Soprano (Dark Apostle). Though to be fair, at least I could see the idea behind the soprano...its just that the execution is laughable, although easily corrected with a modelling knife.

TBH I don’t mind the Dark Apostle. Yes he’s overly busy, but the model itself ain’t bad.

The Flayed Ones? Yes, terrible. So is Lukas the Trickster. So is Wolfy McWolferson riding his Giant Wolf whilst using Wolf Claws. That guy was bad from concept through execution...

 Kaiserbudheim wrote:
Look at them. LOOK.

And this was before I could get the checker patterns and Blade Runner-esque bands of warpaint on them. But yet, they're also awesome at the same time. While not readily available from GW, they can be found on the secondary market, so could these count?

...That mohawk marine is one evil looking melon-fether.

 salix_fatuus wrote:
Then this one mostly since its nothing like how the fluff describes it.
http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/productDetail.jsp?catId=cat440231a&prodId=prod1290020a

How so?


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 alanmckenzie wrote:
I actually kinda like Captain Al'rahem. But I had a thing for the Tallarn range.

That's not Captain Al'rahem. That's just the regular Tallarn Lt.


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 Kaiserbudheim wrote:
Look at them. LOOK.

And this was before I could get the checker patterns and Blade Runner-esque bands of warpaint on them. But yet, they're also awesome at the same time. While not readily available from GW, they can be found on the secondary market, so could these count?

I've got like 12 squads of these guys. Some of the first minis I ever got!

Fantasy goblins- big heads, little bodies, static pose. This is my most unfavorite. There are other sculpts that are horendous but these are the worst to me.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:


That's not Captain Al'rahem. That's just the regular Tallarn Lt.

You're right, consider me corrected... still like 'em.

 Zweischneid wrote:

 angel of ecstasy wrote:

Edit: I don't know if it's just the paintjob, but the tentacle vagina head is pretty questionable too.

Heresy. That is one of THE classic sci-fi motives

That...
That's a vagina.

 Testify wrote:
That...
That's a vagina.

One of the chief themes of Alien was rape, so yeah.

Every time I see gk I don't get the intended impression of " they're carrying so much stuff cause they're super stwong!" but rather "they're fumbling around trying to carry all their equipment."

wysiwyg gone wrong.

Honorable mentions are the sisters organ of goofiness and I can't believe nobody mentioned the inquisitor guy with the big typewriter machine.

^ Meh, I like my soldiers well equipped, personally.

My least favorite model is whatever has the least amount of skulls on it.

Am I the only one thinking you can't do anything more toyish, childish and moodless than XV8? I mean Helldrake, Dreadknight or Stormtalon looks like a piece of art next to it and Mutilator scream with grimdark, imo.

http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/productDetail.jsp?catId=cat440178a&prodId=prod1060253&rootCatGameStyle=

 CthuluIsSpy wrote:
I miss 3rd Daemonettes
They were what Slaanesh was about. But then GW got prudish...maybe they were afraid that they would receive the DnD treatment.

I also miss the cloven hooved bloodletters, for that matter; they looked like they could kill stuff, you know?

I'm with ya, buddy.

 Testify wrote:

 Zweischneid wrote:

 angel of ecstasy wrote:

Edit: I don't know if it's just the paintjob, but the tentacle vagina head is pretty questionable too.

Heresy. That is one of THE classic sci-fi motives

That...
That's a vagina.

Yes. Yes it is.

And it's coming straight for your FACE!

Welcome to the anime cliche scene Plum... unfortunately it was kinda innevitable. There was a demand and GW provided... unfortunately FW does better looking ones imo... what worries me is that its sorta leaking into other armies, the dreadknight, the penitent engine, FWs Contemptor dreads...

 Anfauglir wrote:

 CthuluIsSpy wrote:
I miss 3rd Daemonettes
They were what Slaanesh was about. But then GW got prudish...maybe they were afraid that they would receive the DnD treatment.

I also miss the cloven hooved bloodletters, for that matter; they looked like they could kill stuff, you know?

I'm with ya, buddy.

 Testify wrote:

 Zweischneid wrote:

 angel of ecstasy wrote:

Edit: I don't know if it's just the paintjob, but the tentacle vagina head is pretty questionable too.

Heresy. That is one of THE classic sci-fi motives

That...
That's a vagina.

Yes. Yes it is.

And it's coming straight for your FACE!

Doesn't matter, had cunnilingus.
And now every child who is on this forum will know what that means xD