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And this is why I love the Eldar. No such crazy fluff as the Adeptus Mechanicus.

I know, I know...I'm kidding!!! Geesh!

But in all honestly I do like the Eldar titans better, and they make more practical sense (even though I do agree the Empire isn't practical) as a weapon system.

I also love the overall design of the Warlord Titan but find the Emperor/Imperator/Umpire-a-tater...whatever...to be very unpleasing. I know it hasn't had the 'updates' of artwork the others have had, and perhaps that is the problem. Also the overall unwieldiness of something the size of an Imperator doesn't appeal to me, I think the largest I'd ever field would be a Warlord.

It's a matter of ideology. Tau and eldar think alike hence, they prefer speed and firepower while Imperium thinks that endurance and firepower is a better option. While this generalisation is true only in vague sense, I cannot say that Imperium is wrong in creating such gargantuos machines. Those titans serve in active military service for at least hundreds of years and there is little that can oppose them. Only extreme conflicts like black crusades or that was seen in ''Titanicus" can thin their ranks properly.


Btw: Eldars do not try to endure the bullet, they try to outsmart it.

also love the overall design of the Warlord Titan but find the Emperor/Imperator/Umpire-a-tater...whatever...to be very unpleasing. I know it hasn't had the 'updates' of artwork the others have had, and perhaps that is the problem. Also the overall unwieldiness of something the size of an Imperator doesn't appeal to me, I think the largest I'd ever field would be a Warlord.

Here's an image I found once of a player's version of an Imperator if it were updated like the current Epic Warlord style, I always thought it was pretty cool because it better fits the current Imperial aesthetic:



Plus I have always liked this comparison photo for the titan sizes. It's all older Epic titans, but the Imperator model looks plenty large enough.

 Ernestas wrote:
Seeing that opposite is true, then it implies to me that it's not only complexity of machinery that slows production down, but also extreme amounts of material they have to work with in order to create a titan which in turn, increases time needed to produce them even more.

Suppose that the only way to create a frame strong enough for an Imperator is to let parts of the frame be submerged in some sort of strengthening liquid or a similar process that can't be hurried up. Complexity does not have to mean it's beyond the understanding of those performing it, only that it takes time because you have to get everything right.

Plus, the Machine Spirits of Titans are rather powerful. It probably takes a while to create those.

 Ratius wrote:
Agreed never heard of a Giga Gargant. But who knows with Orks.

Emp VS Mega Gargant (largest Gargant variant I have seen)

The question has to be asked, who let this Titan crew pass their test? You'd expect the orks to fire a bit wild in all the excitement but, blimey...are they all drunk?

Also, willy cannon!

... they might be shooting at larger, more threatening targets that aren't pictured.

Princeps: "Open fire moderati, "dazzler" pattern! Engage everything simultaneously, and from melee range!"

Most of the GW artwork involves shooting unseen targets while being simultaneously engaged with multiple other foes.

Besides it wouldn't be exactly fair to the orks, having a helstorm cannon be unloaded at point blank range on the front of the picture.

 AlmightyWalrus wrote:

 Ernestas wrote:
Seeing that opposite is true, then it implies to me that it's not only complexity of machinery that slows production down, but also extreme amounts of material they have to work with in order to create a titan which in turn, increases time needed to produce them even more.

Suppose that the only way to create a frame strong enough for an Imperator is to let parts of the frame be submerged in some sort of strengthening liquid or a similar process that can't be hurried up. Complexity does not have to mean it's beyond the understanding of those performing it, only that it takes time because you have to get everything right.

Plus, the Machine Spirits of Titans are rather powerful. It probably takes a while to create those.

Or maybe impregnation process can be accelerated by psychic powers? There is even a separate technology tree in warhammer universe, called techno-sorcery. Knowing sorcery and that warp-infusion does, I wouldn't be surprised if laws of physic would be twisted to better serve machine's intentended purpose. In any way, we cannot speculate how titans are created. My theory of mass production of them works only then their cost is relativelly low which supports my argument that titans have to be massive due to their low rarity. Also, certain, time-consuming things can be bypassed simply by doing a lot of same thing. If for example you need to strengthen hull with chemicals, then you can stockpile needed impregnated material in advance.

Tho we may not be able to agree on the height of the Imperitor, can we at least all agree that the cathedral on its back / shoulders was a dumb ascetic choice?

No.

I wonder how drunk they were when they made that choice...

...Hey, this Chimay is pretty awesome, let's honor the monks that made it by putting their abby on the back of our most powerful walking war machine...

The cathedral spires allow for four cannons to provide forward and lateral fire-zones. I'm sure there's probably 2 to 4 cannons pointing directly behind the Titan from towers we can't see.

This is 360* fields of fire, visiting devastation on anyone dumb enough to continue marching towards it.

Emperor class titans are devastating in itself for anyone dumb enough to try to approach them. Personally, I dislike cathedrals on top of him and would prefer different aesthetic design. Due to that, idea of hand-crafting them seems very appealing to me. It could mean, that this design is unique creation of tech-priest or team of them. Then there could be many more differently looking titans and that would open more possibilities in table-top and in legitimate art design.

I, personally, like the cathedral look, because I think it adds to the techno-Gothic vibe of the Imperium.

In "Deliverance Lost", the renegade Emperator titan was 90m tall.


kinda short compared to some, but still large.

I dont think they were built the same.