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 timetowaste85 wrote:
Didn't like Affleck as a hero before (DD), didn't like a single Sneider movie yet, gonna call this a fail. Batman died after TDKR.

Affleck+Sneider=fail, same as 2+2=4. I'm not gonna hold out hope that it becomes something different. As far as the Ledger=Joker comparison, we hasn't seen HL try his hand at a psycho before. We HAVE seen BA try his hand at being a vigilante. It sucked.

Well, 300 wasn't bad my any means, but I feel that had more to do with Gerard Butler simply being epic rather than a case of outstanding work from the director's chair...

I think I have enjoyed all of Snyder's films, except Sucker Punch. 300 was a treat in the theater, and while Watchmen had some issues, was also quite a thing to see on the big screen. Dawn of the Dead was a hell of a horror movie, and one of the few really good remakes out there.

I also think Daredevil not working out was at least as much the fualt of the Director and Screenwriter as was Affleck's. We shouldn't be holding him responsible for a bad movie.

Whenever I see/hear someone call fights in Man of Steel 'Dragonball Z' like it is akin to hearing someone say that 40k ripped off Starcraft. Superman was doing those kinds of fights 40 years before Dragonball Z hit the airwaves.

I have never enjoyed a single Nolen film but conversely loved 300 and Sucker Punch, enjoyed Watchmen.

I liked 300, Watchmen, Dawn of the Dead, Daredevil in terms of having Electra, but Sucker Punch was insulting.

Regarding Superman's latest DBZ fight, I think je meant just in terms of how over the top it was. It just took too long and every time there should have been a conclusion the was ANOTHER, even HIGHER POWER LEVELS of superness. I distinctly remember because I had had 2 large Coca-Colas but didn't want to miss anything. It took like 40 mins.

 Ahtman wrote:

Whenever I see/hear someone call fights in Man of Steel 'Dragonball Z' like it is akin to hearing someone say that 40k ripped off Starcraft. Superman was doing those kinds of fights 40 years before Dragonball Z hit the airwaves.

I have no idea how you arrived at that as a response. The point is obviously to draw a parallel between two depictions of flying superbeings pummeling each other.

My buddy got up to take a piss in the middle of the film. Asked if he missed anything, but nothing important had happened. I think Amy Adams found Superman's costume that his dad left for him thousands of years before Jor El was even born. Plot fail was all he missed. Probably improved the film for him slightly. I still suffered through that.

 Vaerros wrote:

 Ahtman wrote:

Whenever I see/hear someone call fights in Man of Steel 'Dragonball Z' like it is akin to hearing someone say that 40k ripped off Starcraft. Superman was doing those kinds of fights 40 years before Dragonball Z hit the airwaves.

I have no idea how you arrived at that as a response. The point is obviously to draw a parallel between two depictions of flying superbeings pummeling each other.

Because I have repeatedly seen people write (or say) that Man of Steel "went all DBZ" with the fight scenes and the context of the use isn't in drawing a parallel, but in saying that MoS stole a certain style from DBZ, which is a pretty silly thing to say if more then two seconds are taken to think about it. One might as well say that The Seven Samurai ripped off The Magnificent Seven.

 Ahtman wrote:

 Vaerros wrote:

 Ahtman wrote:

Whenever I see/hear someone call fights in Man of Steel 'Dragonball Z' like it is akin to hearing someone say that 40k ripped off Starcraft. Superman was doing those kinds of fights 40 years before Dragonball Z hit the airwaves.

I have no idea how you arrived at that as a response. The point is obviously to draw a parallel between two depictions of flying superbeings pummeling each other.

Because I have repeatedly seen people write (or say) that Man of Steel "went all DBZ" with the fight scenes and the context of the use isn't in drawing a parallel, but in saying that MoS stole a certain style from DBZ, which is a pretty silly thing to say if more then two seconds are taken to think about it. One might as well say that The Seven Samurai ripped off The Magnificent Seven.

Except I never said anything about the movie ripping off DBZ. It's a just an example of a work that has plenty of epic battles between fast, tough, strong, flying opponents. For those who grew up watching it, it holds a particular place in memory.

...hence my bringing it up in the first place.

 Vaerros wrote:
Except I never said anything about the movie ripping off DBZ.

And I never said your name, nor did I specifically quote you. You aren't the only to bring it up, nor was it just on this forum.

Huh, ben affleck as batman? not my first choice, but i have been surprised by weird castings before.

 DeathReaper wrote:

 SilverMK2 wrote:
I'm just not really seeing Affleck as Batman...

Seriously, go watch Phantoms and re-evaluate Affleck after you see that movie.

I saw him in Phantoms. Meh.

But Affleck was the bomb in Phantomsm yo.

Comic fans are making themselves look as good as they usually do, by taking things so far as to making death threats.

I love the guy who quotes Lucius Fox from the DKR trilogy.

Lucius Fox wrote: So you think this man is a vigilante who dresses up like a bat and beats up criminals with his bare hands, and your plan is to threaten this person? Good luck!

With Bryan Cranston as Lex Luthor?

I know he was campaigning for the part so I wouldn't be surprised if he got it, but I will wait for an official announcement before I get to excited. They had considered Mark Strong but he was(is?) Sinestro so no go.

Sorry to drag this from page 4 in a small thread-o-mancy, but I just heard there is a possibility of Justin Bieber being cast as Robin. Source is a family member who watches waaaaaayyyy too much day time television, so I want to see if anybody can confirm that this is an actual rumor, and not just coming from my family member.

 timetowaste85 wrote:
Sorry to drag this from page 4 in a small thread-o-mancy, but I just heard there is a possibility of Justin Bieber being cast as Robin. Source is a family member who watches waaaaaayyyy too much day time television, so I want to see if anybody can confirm that this is an actual rumor, and not just coming from my family member.

He "Instagrammed" (I don't think that's actually a word) a photo of a script with his name watermarked on it. Shortly after he said he was gonna take part in a Funny or Die sketch, so I would assume that the script was from that.

 timetowaste85 wrote:
Sorry to drag this from page 4 in a small thread-o-mancy, but I just heard there is a possibility of Justin Bieber being cast as Robin. Source is a family member who watches waaaaaayyyy too much day time television, so I want to see if anybody can confirm that this is an actual rumor, and not just coming from my family member.

There was a picture going around of the Biebs holding up a 'script' of the film with his name in big stamped letters across the front of it


That image...

Jut looked it up too, and saw it was a hoax for Funny Or Die. It better be a damn hoax...

Affleck will do just fine. I'm not worried about it.

I did like the new superman series, and I look forward to this installment.

 timetowaste85 wrote:
It better be a damn hoax...

It is. If you've ever read an official script you'd recognize elements there that would, especially credit to Frank Miller. If they put that on the paper they would have to pay him and give him some screenwriting credit, which I doubt is going to happen.

im more upset that they are doing a lame crossover then replaceing the actor...

they had agood thing going with batman, and a horrible thing going with superman...

even if you mix piss with the best beer ever, you are still drinking piss...


such a shame, I DRK who is batman, but they could have done so much more...

heck I was looking forward to that new guy who plays robin to step in and kick some butt, either as robin or batman part duex

I'm more convinced than ever that Affleck is going to be more than just the actor playing Batman. There were reports earlier this year, I believe, that they had offered the JL director's chair to Affleck and he turned it down. And I believe I've read recently that WB has been courting him for a while.

So maybe the deal got sweetened with the Batman role, and we're not seeing the back end part since the JL movie hasn't been made official. He also likes to act in his own movies, right? Even if he's not directing, you kinda have to think that he's going to have major story input going forward. He's an Oscar-winning director now...he gets to pick the stuff he wants to do. And I think that gives me more optimism about the whole DC movie universe. Affleck gets comic books and he gets good filmmaking.

Why do you think Affleck gets comic books?

The Boston movie was good but Argo was pretty meh (in addition to most of it being untrue).

Eh. I am indifferent. I will give the Affleck a chance.

 Frazzled wrote:
Why do you think Affleck gets comic books?

Because he's a comics fan and especially a fan of Frank Miller, per Kevin Smith.

I liked Keaton's Batman.

I hated Christian Bale's performance, and Ledger's and most others. But I can't bring myself to care. I missed the last 2 movies and am not bothered. When I step back and look at what Batman really is, and the tone the films have taken most recently....well it's like trying to 'Grimdark' Lego or the Care Bears. Bruce Wayne is a mentally-ill, fully grown man cosplaying an anthropomorphic bat while violently flaunting the law. The Keaton era still had a modicum of whimsy left in the franchise which kept it reasonably enjoyable for me. It didn't seem like a secret parody.

 Doomsdave wrote:
I liked Keaton's Batman.

I hated Christian Bale's performance, and Ledger's and most others. But I can't bring myself to care. I missed the last 2 movies and am not bothered. When I step back and look at what Batman really is, and the tone the films have taken most recently....well it's like trying to 'Grimdark' Lego or the Care Bears. Bruce Wayne is a mentally-ill, fully grown man cosplaying an anthropomorphic bat while violently flaunting the law. The Keaton era still had a modicum of whimsy left in the franchise which kept it reasonably enjoyable for me. It didn't seem like a secret parody.

You missed the last two movies, but you hated Heath Ledgers performance? How would you know since you haven't seen it?

 Doomsdave wrote:
I liked Keaton's Batman.

I hated Christian Bale's performance, and Ledger's and most others. But I can't bring myself to care. I missed the last 2 movies and am not bothered. When I step back and look at what Batman really is, and the tone the films have taken most recently....well it's like trying to 'Grimdark' Lego or the Care Bears. Bruce Wayne is a mentally-ill, fully grown man cosplaying an anthropomorphic bat while violently flaunting the law. The Keaton era still had a modicum of whimsy left in the franchise which kept it reasonably enjoyable for me. It didn't seem like a secret parody.

You're trolling us, right? Batman has always been fairly violent with the exception of the Adam West era. He is not a carebear, nor is he a Lego. Well, actually, I guess he is a Lego now. But batman is one of those characters that can be made as dark or child friendly as you want. Superman, by contrast, sucks at being dark and edgy. Wonder Woman can also be any range, from friendly and inviting to chopping your head off, stuffing her sword down your throat, and ripping you apart like a wishbone.

TLDR: batman is usually badass, but can be kiddied up, and how do you not like Ledger's performance?!

Because he probably just saw the, "Why So Serious?" memes and decided it was gak.