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 davou wrote:
That person sucks regardless of whether or not you're a woman

No, not always.

Frequently, they're rude only to women and/or other minorities, and they can be quite popular within their group.

Melissia wrote:

 Krellnus wrote:

 Melissia wrote:
Hm. Worst moments playing an immature player... has to be the idiot a year or two back that kept saying I shouldn't play because it's a man's hobby and he plays it to get away from women.

How dare a WOMAN enjoy 40k! Blah.

Surely you jest?

No, I'm not jesting. I ran in to more than one person like this. Not so long ago, someone posted a thread in this very forum that was a rant along these lines.

There is a very noticeable (from my viewpoint as a woman) undercurrent of misogyny in gaming culture; 40k is no exception. Generally most people are nice. But there's still always That One Arsehole in a group.

I have never played against a woman in 40k, I would love to play at least one game, the other perspective about the game may be quite interesting (I note this due to what a woman brings to a DnD or any rpg group, much more caution and patience is brought to the table). As far as the misogyny in various games I havent really run into it, my first dnd group I joined had a female gamer (can't say woman due to the oldest member of that group being 15 at the time), same with mtg, heck my flgs coowners wife shows up time to time to smash face in mtg or D&D.

g0atsticks wrote:

Da krimson barun wrote:
Not everyone is a fa/tg/uy.

...but it comes so naturally, its also where I learned everything I know about women to date.

I know what I want for christmas now, take a video camera, and tape the first date with a chick using that knowledge

As far as immature players I thankfully havent run into any in 40k, now RPGs most of my group could be considered donkey's, so immaturity is just something that we do and have fun doing it (case in point two brothers in a d20 modern ran as some psychotic sideshow twins, one was a deathball motorcyclist, the other was a chainsaw juggling midget, much fun was had)

 Melissia wrote:

 davou wrote:
That person sucks regardless of whether or not you're a woman

No, not always.

Frequently, they're rude only to women and/or other minorities, and they can be quite popular within their group.

I will be quite honest, I know that sexism and such exists but the idea of discriminating baed purely off of some physiological basis is incredibly alien. I mean i've always treated people the same, boobies or no, and that is."you're dumb until you prove to me otherwise".

I mean surely adding new people to your group, male or female is a good thing, because it adds new experiences and perspective, which can only be a good thing right?

Right?

Right?

Guys?

 Krellnus wrote:

 Melissia wrote:

 davou wrote:
That person sucks regardless of whether or not you're a woman

No, not always.

Frequently, they're rude only to women and/or other minorities, and they can be quite popular within their group.

I will be quite honest, I know that sexism and such exists but the idea of discriminating baed purely off of some physiological basis is incredibly alien. I mean i've always treated people the same, boobies or no, and that is."you're dumb until you prove to me otherwise".

I mean surely adding new people to your group, male or female is a good thing, because it adds new experiences and perspective, which can only be a good thing right?

Right?

Right?

Guys?
You forgot to add Gals

Fixed that for ya, but I do agree, hell I would love to play against someone elderly for the reason of perspective, ideally an old veteran, granted my butt would probably be handed back to me on a silver platter but hell I am fine with that for the oppourtunity of new perspective.

 Psienesis wrote:

zilka86 wrote:
I didn't think woman play 40k i be in shock if i saw one

<o.0>

Half of my Dark Heresy group is female players, very much into the lore and the setting.

One thing I've noticed, though, is that it's much more difficult for a woman to be "out and proud" about her fandoms. Where as we guys can wear the t-shirts, the hoodies, the hats, the backpacks, the whatevers of any given fandom... whether 40K, an anime series, a cartoon, Star Wars, Star Trek, *whatever*... without much of a problem, if a woman wears any of this, if they get into a conversation about the fandom property, they have to be 100% correct on every little tiny detail or they get branded as "not a real fan". Whether that's knowing every secret identity, every costume color and change, and the name of ever minor side-kick of a superhero over the past 75 years (as well as the issue numbers in which those things appear!), or being able to ramble off the model and manufacturer of every starship to ever appear in any Star Wars product ever released, there seems to be a *much* higher level of expectations placed on female fans than ever there are on male fans.

And this does not even get into the reactions that I've seen female fans get at conventions and events. For some reason, a significant portion (not sure if majority or just vocal minority) seem to believe that a female fan who is cosplaying one of the characters exists solely to provide sexual gratification to That Guy. However, if the female cosplayer does not perfectly match the humanly-impossible measurements of a given anime or comic book character, well, that's when the real problems start. Males in a given fandom are almost certainly *not* some utopian ideal of masculine imagery. Put bluntly, a lot of male fans are fat and slovenly, and many have poor hygiene habits. Given that, it is *not* OK for a male fan to tell a woman dressed as some character or another that she's fat, a cow, a whale, or any other derogatory expression, unless you also want to have random strangers coming up to you at the con and telling him he's fat, dressed badly, looks like a fething slob, needed to shower a week ago, needs to take care of that acne problem, shave that sorry-ass excuse for a beard... well, you get my drift.

Sorry to rant, it's just a problem I've had with the nature of fandoms and, specifically, sci-fi fandoms for quite awhile now. The only real exception to this, that I've seen, has been the Star Trek fandom, though that might have the benefit of having been around longer than any of the others.

This post made me realise that I'd do that. Only to a woman who was working at an event, say, but also happened to be a fan (including GW staffers, mind), but also to anyone who cosplayed regardless of gender, and that's not okay either.

So thank you, you've helped make me a slightly less terrible person.

At the risk of turning this into a "women in Warhammer" thread, I'd like to say that I play a variety of games, and I've noticed that there is a much lower female presence in tabletop wargaming than there is in video/card/board/roleplaying games.

I have seen a lot of immature things, like people throwing models and such. However, by far the most immature thing I have seen is at my old FLGS a bunch of the 40K players refused to play 6th and instead pick and chose the rules from each edition that they liked best and refused to play any other way.
The ringleader was a guy who ran a Lucius pattern droppod Iron Clad dreadnought list. It was a coincidence when 5th edition vehicle damage rules were in their "custom" edition.

herpguy wrote:
I have seen a lot of immature things, like people throwing models and such. However, by far the most immature thing I have seen is at my old FLGS a bunch of the 40K players refused to play 6th and instead pick and chose the rules from each edition that they liked best and refused to play any other way.
The ringleader was a guy who ran a Lucius pattern droppod Iron Clad dreadnought list. It was a coincidence when 5th edition vehicle damage rules were in their "custom" edition.

Oh deary me. How dare those people play with the rules that make them happy!

Reminds me of the time when I found a couple of guys in a store playing with 4th Edition rules (this was a year into 5th Ed., mind you). I'm ashamed of the fact that I told them they were 'doing it wrong' because they weren't playing the current ruleset.

I had a case of immature player attitude 3 days ago. the family was playing a 750 point 3 way battle. The Necron player got all of his scoring unit ( only had to have 1 scoring and 1 hq) killed. He started to get upset and "huffy". To which his mother and I informed him that its a game, and every so often other people do win. The 10 year old in question realized that he hasnt really been tabled EVER so decided it was ok this time. So he starts rooting for his mom and her Orks. I proceeded to call him a turkey cause Dad's Marines are better then any old smelly Orks. He said maybe, but Mom is better then you...little brat

Alexi wrote:
I had a case of immature player attitude 3 days ago. the family was playing a 750 point 3 way battle. The Necron player got all of his scoring unit ( only had to have 1 scoring and 1 hq) killed. He started to get upset and "huffy". To which his mother and I informed him that its a game, and every so often other people do win. The 10 year old in question realized that he hasnt really been tabled EVER so decided it was ok this time. So he starts rooting for his mom and her Orks. I proceeded to call him a turkey cause Dad's Marines are better then any old smelly Orks. He said maybe, but Mom is better then you...little brat

What an immature little bastard. I hope you punched him...

 Psienesis wrote:


Half of my Dark Heresy group is female players, very much into the lore and the setting.

One thing I've noticed, though, is that it's much more difficult for a woman to be "out and proud" about her fandoms. Where as we guys can wear the t-shirts, the hoodies, the hats, the backpacks, the whatevers of any given fandom... whether 40K, an anime series, a cartoon, Star Wars, Star Trek, *whatever*... without much of a problem, if a woman wears any of this, if they get into a conversation about the fandom property, they have to be 100% correct on every little tiny detail or they get branded as "not a real fan". Whether that's knowing every secret identity, every costume color and change, and the name of ever minor side-kick of a superhero over the past 75 years (as well as the issue numbers in which those things appear!), or being able to ramble off the model and manufacturer of every starship to ever appear in any Star Wars product ever released, there seems to be a *much* higher level of expectations placed on female fans than ever there are on male fans.

If you were a man or woman being spoke to like that I wouldn't be happy. I'd be be like dude stfu, let people enjoy their hobby how they want and stop being so annal.

 infinite_array wrote:

herpguy wrote:
I have seen a lot of immature things, like people throwing models and such. However, by far the most immature thing I have seen is at my old FLGS a bunch of the 40K players refused to play 6th and instead pick and chose the rules from each edition that they liked best and refused to play any other way.
The ringleader was a guy who ran a Lucius pattern droppod Iron Clad dreadnought list. It was a coincidence when 5th edition vehicle damage rules were in their "custom" edition.

Oh deary me. How dare those people play with the rules that make them happy!

Reminds me of the time when I found a couple of guys in a store playing with 4th Edition rules (this was a year into 5th Ed., mind you). I'm ashamed of the fact that I told them they were 'doing it wrong' because they weren't playing the current ruleset.

Reminds me of a time when the current Tau codex had just been released and I got a pick up game against a Tau player. He hadn't got the new codex yet and I was playing Orks, so I was absolutely 100% more than happy for him to play with the old codex. We had an absolutely stonking game.

Except for the guy who repeatedly told us that it wasn't possible for my opponent to use the old codex. Reasons included that everything was so much better in the new codex, that the old codex wasn't written for 6th edition and "there's not a valid FAQ on the GW website for that codex any more".

It pretty much ended when my opponent told him "Ok, well we're having a great game here. If you've got any more brilliant insights, please feel free to keep them to yourself."

Well, once I was in my FLGS, and this 12 year old TFG came up to me and wanted a game.
He only plays the meta, so after he pulled out his 4 riptides, I thought I was done for considering I was using my fluffy, non-competitive SOB army list.
He spent a 10 minutes before the game bragging about how he was gonna wipe the floor with me, we even got a mission that favored his army over mine.
First turn: I wipe out all of his riptides with boltguns. He got very angry, and began to rip their arms off.
Finally, he got so angry, that he pulled out his ak47 and started hurling racist remarks at them, while blasting them all the way to hell.
I saw his wife come in then, and she tried to stop him, but he turned around and fired his gun at her.
Luckily i'm an ex-navy seal/ninja assassin, so I reached around him and caught the bullet in mid-air, before using my left foot to stimulate his nerves in such a way that his face melted off.
At that point the police came, and were going to arrest me when they saw what had happened to the kid, but I showed them my ninja-assassin badge, and they thanked me for my services.
The FLGS owner was so happy he offered to give me a complete Draigowing force for free, so I could play a competitive list, but I had to refuse, because i like to support my FLGS. I instead bought it all from him, clearing the shelves of all the Grey Knights, and he thanked me saying how this money could feed his family and twenty others for 5 years.
After that, his wife thanked me so much for saving her, and asked me to marry her.
I had to decline though, as she was unaware of the exact year that the first War of Armageddon began in, and so was not a true Warhammer 40,000 fan.

Luckily the guys I play 40k and wfb with now are mostly good guys, but I used to share a flat with a guy who I met through playing 40k.

We used to game at our place every Sunday pretty much, and regularly had other friends over too. One day we played a 2 vs 2 (this was 3rd edition 40K) of chaos & chaos vs blood angels and imperial guard.

On the 2nd turn I think it was (it may even have been the first) we had manouevered a predator tank (I was on the chaos side) and managed to get a shot on one of the basilisks on the other side. He either failed his cover save or wasn't entitled to one and the basilisk was blown up by a lucky lascannon shot. The basilisk model was then thrown across the room where it hit the wall and smashed.

Bearing in mind this guy was in his late 30's at the time.

Now the worst thing I have to contend with during the game is small disputes over cover saves in 40K or hit modifiers in fantasy.

The only exception is sometimes I play against a guy who will bring a list with an almost unbeatable deathstar unit in it (the ones I have seen from him are 40 white lions with the botwd + teclis or 18 ironguts with slaughtermaster and bsb). He is a nice enough guy who is fun to play against but likes to bring big unkillable units like that.

I don't mind these kinds of lists but I would like to know in advance so I have a chance to try and prepare for it in my list. For me it takes the fun out of friendly games when these kinds of lists show up without warning. If he had said he was practising for a tournament and was bringing this unit I wouldn't have had a problem with it.

 Gutsnagga wrote:
Well, once I was in my FLGS, and this 12 year old TFG came up to me and wanted a game.
He only plays the meta, so after he pulled out his 4 riptides, I thought I was done for considering I was using my fluffy, non-competitive SOB army list.
He spent a 10 minutes before the game bragging about how he was gonna wipe the floor with me, we even got a mission that favored his army over mine.
First turn: I wipe out all of his riptides with boltguns. He got very angry, and began to rip their arms off.
Finally, he got so angry, that he pulled out his ak47 and started hurling racist remarks at them, while blasting them all the way to hell.
I saw his wife come in then, and she tried to stop him, but he turned around and fired his gun at her.
Luckily i'm an ex-navy seal/ninja assassin, so I reached around him and caught the bullet in mid-air, before using my left foot to stimulate his nerves in such a way that his face melted off.
At that point the police came, and were going to arrest me when they saw what had happened to the kid, but I showed them my ninja-assassin badge, and they thanked me for my services.
The FLGS owner was so happy he offered to give me a complete Draigowing force for free, so I could play a competitive list, but I had to refuse, because i like to support my FLGS. I instead bought it all from him, clearing the shelves of all the Grey Knights, and he thanked me saying how this money could feed his family and twenty others for 5 years.
After that, his wife thanked me so much for saving her, and asked me to marry her.
I had to decline though, as she was unaware of the exact year that the first War of Armageddon began in, and so was not a true Warhammer 40,000 fan.

Holy crap, a real Ninja-Assasin posting on Dakka Dakka
Can I get your autograph?

 Gutsnagga wrote:
Well, once I was in my FLGS, and this 12 year old TFG came up to me and wanted a game.
He only plays the meta, so after he pulled out his 4 riptides, I thought I was done for considering I was using my fluffy, non-competitive SOB army list.
He spent a 10 minutes before the game bragging about how he was gonna wipe the floor with me, we even got a mission that favored his army over mine.
First turn: I wipe out all of his riptides with boltguns. He got very angry, and began to rip their arms off.
Finally, he got so angry, that he pulled out his ak47 and started hurling racist remarks at them, while blasting them all the way to hell.
I saw his wife come in then, and she tried to stop him, but he turned around and fired his gun at her.
Luckily i'm an ex-navy seal/ninja assassin, so I reached around him and caught the bullet in mid-air, before using my left foot to stimulate his nerves in such a way that his face melted off.
At that point the police came, and were going to arrest me when they saw what had happened to the kid, but I showed them my ninja-assassin badge, and they thanked me for my services.
The FLGS owner was so happy he offered to give me a complete Draigowing force for free, so I could play a competitive list, but I had to refuse, because i like to support my FLGS. I instead bought it all from him, clearing the shelves of all the Grey Knights, and he thanked me saying how this money could feed his family and twenty others for 5 years.
After that, his wife thanked me so much for saving her, and asked me to marry her.
I had to decline though, as she was unaware of the exact year that the first War of Armageddon began in, and so was not a true Warhammer 40,000 fan.

I'm sorry I just don't believe this.
Dragowing isn't that competitive anymore.

 PredaKhaine wrote:

 Gutsnagga wrote:
Well, once I was in my FLGS, and this 12 year old TFG came up to me and wanted a game.
He only plays the meta, so after he pulled out his 4 riptides, I thought I was done for considering I was using my fluffy, non-competitive SOB army list.
He spent a 10 minutes before the game bragging about how he was gonna wipe the floor with me, we even got a mission that favored his army over mine.
First turn: I wipe out all of his riptides with boltguns. He got very angry, and began to rip their arms off.
Finally, he got so angry, that he pulled out his ak47 and started hurling racist remarks at them, while blasting them all the way to hell.
I saw his wife come in then, and she tried to stop him, but he turned around and fired his gun at her.
Luckily i'm an ex-navy seal/ninja assassin, so I reached around him and caught the bullet in mid-air, before using my left foot to stimulate his nerves in such a way that his face melted off.
At that point the police came, and were going to arrest me when they saw what had happened to the kid, but I showed them my ninja-assassin badge, and they thanked me for my services.
The FLGS owner was so happy he offered to give me a complete Draigowing force for free, so I could play a competitive list, but I had to refuse, because i like to support my FLGS. I instead bought it all from him, clearing the shelves of all the Grey Knights, and he thanked me saying how this money could feed his family and twenty others for 5 years.
After that, his wife thanked me so much for saving her, and asked me to marry her.
I had to decline though, as she was unaware of the exact year that the first War of Armageddon began in, and so was not a true Warhammer 40,000 fan.

I'm sorry I just don't believe this.
Dragowing isn't that competitive anymore.

Sorry, forgot to mention, the FLGS owner is stuck back in fifth edition, he's a bit of an old timer, but I still go there because he really needs some tough people at the store to protect him from all the local bikie gangs. in his mind, Draigowing was still incredibly competitive (he's on antidepressants at the moment).

 Gutsnagga wrote:
Well, once I was in my FLGS, and this 12 year old TFG came up to me and wanted a game.
He only plays the meta, so after he pulled out his 4 riptides, I thought I was done for considering I was using my fluffy, non-competitive SOB army list.
He spent a 10 minutes before the game bragging about how he was gonna wipe the floor with me, we even got a mission that favored his army over mine.
First turn: I wipe out all of his riptides with boltguns. He got very angry, and began to rip their arms off.
Finally, he got so angry, that he pulled out his ak47 and started hurling racist remarks at them, while blasting them all the way to hell.
I saw his wife come in then, and she tried to stop him, but he turned around and fired his gun at her.
Luckily i'm an ex-navy seal/ninja assassin, so I reached around him and caught the bullet in mid-air, before using my left foot to stimulate his nerves in such a way that his face melted off.
At that point the police came, and were going to arrest me when they saw what had happened to the kid, but I showed them my ninja-assassin badge, and they thanked me for my services.
The FLGS owner was so happy he offered to give me a complete Draigowing force for free, so I could play a competitive list, but I had to refuse, because i like to support my FLGS. I instead bought it all from him, clearing the shelves of all the Grey Knights, and he thanked me saying how this money could feed his family and twenty others for 5 years.
After that, his wife thanked me so much for saving her, and asked me to marry her.
I had to decline though, as she was unaware of the exact year that the first War of Armageddon began in, and so was not a true Warhammer 40,000 fan.

Can't...breathe...laughing...too...hard...tears...blinding...

*whew* That was great. Man. I wish I could sig all of that.

I've encountered the whole "U GRL, I MAN, U NO PLY PLASTIK MEN GAMEZ" before, generally it involves a boyfriend or the like talking to his girl like she's an idiot, which sucks because I know guys who'd kill for a woman interested in the hobby, even peripherally.

Had a game of Warmachine back in MKI, me and a buddy versus a girl and her man. Buddy runs Cryx, I run Khador, she runs Mercs and he runs Cygnar, pretty meh match already but I'm psyched for it anyhow (think it was like my third game). During deployment and the subsequent 1-2 turns they start to dig in around a hill and some terrain, he does it badly and get's smote via some Menoth love, she does it better and promptly shoots me to pieces. Guy is visibly annoyed that his "SHE WOMAN" is doing better than he is, that's when the "God you suck."'s and "Are you stupid?"'s come in. Game finishes with a pretty near victory for her, (my buddy kicked the guys teeth all over the place and I got shot right off the board) we go to shake hands after it and he refuses to, she goes to and when we're about to shake hands he slaps her hand away and tells her to pack up the fething models.

Now, generally anyone who knows anything about public displays of stupid with regards to couples, you generally don't say anything and sort of ignore it. But, seeing as how this guy was a feth-nugget, we decided to pull her off to the side and thank her for a well fought game anyway, in front of him. We chatted her up for maybe twenty minutes, asked about how she liked the game, general after-battle banter like anyone would do, and all the while the dude is fuming, standing at the exit with his bags of mini's waiting for her.

Was a pretty great day. Never saw the couple again though, he probably wasn't keen on lettering her near people again.

 Gutsnagga wrote:

 PredaKhaine wrote:

 Gutsnagga wrote:
Well, once I was in my FLGS, and this 12 year old TFG came up to me and wanted a game.
He only plays the meta, so after he pulled out his 4 riptides, I thought I was done for considering I was using my fluffy, non-competitive SOB army list.
He spent a 10 minutes before the game bragging about how he was gonna wipe the floor with me, we even got a mission that favored his army over mine.
First turn: I wipe out all of his riptides with boltguns. He got very angry, and began to rip their arms off.
Finally, he got so angry, that he pulled out his ak47 and started hurling racist remarks at them, while blasting them all the way to hell.
I saw his wife come in then, and she tried to stop him, but he turned around and fired his gun at her.
Luckily i'm an ex-navy seal/ninja assassin, so I reached around him and caught the bullet in mid-air, before using my left foot to stimulate his nerves in such a way that his face melted off.
At that point the police came, and were going to arrest me when they saw what had happened to the kid, but I showed them my ninja-assassin badge, and they thanked me for my services.
The FLGS owner was so happy he offered to give me a complete Draigowing force for free, so I could play a competitive list, but I had to refuse, because i like to support my FLGS. I instead bought it all from him, clearing the shelves of all the Grey Knights, and he thanked me saying how this money could feed his family and twenty others for 5 years.
After that, his wife thanked me so much for saving her, and asked me to marry her.
I had to decline though, as she was unaware of the exact year that the first War of Armageddon began in, and so was not a true Warhammer 40,000 fan.

I'm sorry I just don't believe this.
Dragowing isn't that competitive anymore.

Sorry, forgot to mention, the FLGS owner is stuck back in fifth edition, he's a bit of an old timer, but I still go there because he really needs some tough people at the store to protect him from all the local bikie gangs. in his mind, Draigowing was still incredibly competitive (he's on antidepressants at the moment).

Ah that explains it.
I take it he's also choosing to make a stand against random cinematic edition creep which you entirely support?
You should ask him to post a petition on dakka advising people not to buy GW .

 PredaKhaine wrote:

 Gutsnagga wrote:

 PredaKhaine wrote:

 Gutsnagga wrote:
Well, once I was in my FLGS, and this 12 year old TFG came up to me and wanted a game.
He only plays the meta, so after he pulled out his 4 riptides, I thought I was done for considering I was using my fluffy, non-competitive SOB army list.
He spent a 10 minutes before the game bragging about how he was gonna wipe the floor with me, we even got a mission that favored his army over mine.
First turn: I wipe out all of his riptides with boltguns. He got very angry, and began to rip their arms off.
Finally, he got so angry, that he pulled out his ak47 and started hurling racist remarks at them, while blasting them all the way to hell.
I saw his wife come in then, and she tried to stop him, but he turned around and fired his gun at her.
Luckily i'm an ex-navy seal/ninja assassin, so I reached around him and caught the bullet in mid-air, before using my left foot to stimulate his nerves in such a way that his face melted off.
At that point the police came, and were going to arrest me when they saw what had happened to the kid, but I showed them my ninja-assassin badge, and they thanked me for my services.
The FLGS owner was so happy he offered to give me a complete Draigowing force for free, so I could play a competitive list, but I had to refuse, because i like to support my FLGS. I instead bought it all from him, clearing the shelves of all the Grey Knights, and he thanked me saying how this money could feed his family and twenty others for 5 years.
After that, his wife thanked me so much for saving her, and asked me to marry her.
I had to decline though, as she was unaware of the exact year that the first War of Armageddon began in, and so was not a true Warhammer 40,000 fan.

I'm sorry I just don't believe this.
Dragowing isn't that competitive anymore.

Sorry, forgot to mention, the FLGS owner is stuck back in fifth edition, he's a bit of an old timer, but I still go there because he really needs some tough people at the store to protect him from all the local bikie gangs. in his mind, Draigowing was still incredibly competitive (he's on antidepressants at the moment).

Ah that explains it.
I take it he's also choosing to make a stand against random cinematic edition creep which you entirely support?
You should ask him to post a petition on dakka advising people not to buy GW .

Yeah he's against it, and I support it, but I can't ask him to do that, I swore in ninja-assassin school that I'd never use my powers of persuasion on innocent people.

I was playing on one of the big city boards at Lenton with a group of my friends when a guy came and asked us if he could join in. I have always been weary of letting people join in a game like this, because you never know what they are going to be like. This was back in 4th (?) when you could drive up in rhinos, jump out, and assault in the same turn.

It was a game of Chaos vs Space Marines and Imperial guard, Me and a friend were Chaos, where my other friend was the guardsmen and HE was marines.

So we start playing, my rhinos (all 7 of them, left 3 in reserve) drove forward and my assault begun, only for him telling me I couldn't assault. Now had he told me about a rule that disallowed my tactic fair enough, but he came up with some spechul rule about it that his marines stopped assaults like that, so there I am, in the open streets, opposite me are squads tooled up with heavy bolters and flamers. Not good

But then he tells me you can only get 5 men in a rhino and to justify this picks up one of my rhinos, and one of my marines and puts them next to each other to prove you can't fit 10 guys in a rhino. No you cannot fit 10 plastic marines in a plastic rhino, but you can fit 10 marines in a rhino under the rules can't you?

Then at the start of his turn he announced that a Battle Barge was orbiting the planet and could fire at our troops, so off go swathes of out models, every single turn. I can only ever recall grey knights having some sort of pre game bombardment thingy, his codex being 'space marines' and i'm sure they never had anything like that.

anyway I got disinterested in the game after turn 1 and on turn 3 was told by him I was out of the game, which I didn't really care about anyway.

But I did get talking to a hot girl after being knocked out, who had driven her brother there and was bored, so it wasn't all bad

Oh and there was a guy at the Derby shop once, when they held their games knights who constantly throughout the game repeated the phrase. 'roll for you possessed' despite me telling him I wasn't using possessed, just some converted models, the manager got annoyed with him and threw him out.

Just to balance things up, when I used to play LOTR I was again at Lenton (I lived half an hour away) and having finished gaming and packed up I picked up my case and walked off, my case, not being fastened properly spilled open and all my models ended up all over the lovely stone floor of that place (just after it had been remodelled to look like a castle) these two guys then came and helped me pick all my models up, since I had goblins at that time, it was a lot of models! not only that, but then leant me glue and paint to repair/touch up the broken ones and even helped me do that. Since then we would meet at Lenton every month to game, I had some of my most fun games with those too.

 Gutsnagga wrote:
Well, once I was in my FLGS, and this 12 year old TFG came up to me and wanted a game.
He only plays the meta, so after he pulled out his 4 riptides, I thought I was done for considering I was using my fluffy, non-competitive SOB army list.
He spent a 10 minutes before the game bragging about how he was gonna wipe the floor with me, we even got a mission that favored his army over mine.
First turn: I wipe out all of his riptides with boltguns. He got very angry, and began to rip their arms off.
Finally, he got so angry, that he pulled out his ak47 and started hurling racist remarks at them, while blasting them all the way to hell.
I saw his wife come in then, and she tried to stop him, but he turned around and fired his gun at her.
Luckily i'm an ex-navy seal/ninja assassin, so I reached around him and caught the bullet in mid-air, before using my left foot to stimulate his nerves in such a way that his face melted off.
At that point the police came, and were going to arrest me when they saw what had happened to the kid, but I showed them my ninja-assassin badge, and they thanked me for my services.
The FLGS owner was so happy he offered to give me a complete Draigowing force for free, so I could play a competitive list, but I had to refuse, because i like to support my FLGS. I instead bought it all from him, clearing the shelves of all the Grey Knights, and he thanked me saying how this money could feed his family and twenty others for 5 years.
After that, his wife thanked me so much for saving her, and asked me to marry her.
I had to decline though, as she was unaware of the exact year that the first War of Armageddon began in, and so was not a true Warhammer 40,000 fan.

This is obviously fake.

A few hundred dollars can't possibly pay for twenty one family's meals for five years.

The rest is totally legit.

 Kain wrote:

 Gutsnagga wrote:
Well, once I was in my FLGS, and this 12 year old TFG came up to me and wanted a game.
He only plays the meta, so after he pulled out his 4 riptides, I thought I was done for considering I was using my fluffy, non-competitive SOB army list.
He spent a 10 minutes before the game bragging about how he was gonna wipe the floor with me, we even got a mission that favored his army over mine.
First turn: I wipe out all of his riptides with boltguns. He got very angry, and began to rip their arms off.
Finally, he got so angry, that he pulled out his ak47 and started hurling racist remarks at them, while blasting them all the way to hell.
I saw his wife come in then, and she tried to stop him, but he turned around and fired his gun at her.
Luckily i'm an ex-navy seal/ninja assassin, so I reached around him and caught the bullet in mid-air, before using my left foot to stimulate his nerves in such a way that his face melted off.
At that point the police came, and were going to arrest me when they saw what had happened to the kid, but I showed them my ninja-assassin badge, and they thanked me for my services.
The FLGS owner was so happy he offered to give me a complete Draigowing force for free, so I could play a competitive list, but I had to refuse, because i like to support my FLGS. I instead bought it all from him, clearing the shelves of all the Grey Knights, and he thanked me saying how this money could feed his family and twenty others for 5 years.
After that, his wife thanked me so much for saving her, and asked me to marry her.
I had to decline though, as she was unaware of the exact year that the first War of Armageddon began in, and so was not a true Warhammer 40,000 fan.

This is obviously fake.

A few hundred dollars can't possibly pay for twenty one family's meals for five years.

The rest is totally legit.

*Ahem*
You will find that the post is entirely legit.

There are pacific island nations with a GDP that is less than the cost of a fully painted, competitive, 2000pt draigowing force, including rulebook and codex...


Anyway, more to the point, having read this thread, where the heck do you folks find all these people? I can honestly say that in my gaming career I have never had the misfortune to meet any of the crude proxies for a human being that have been described thus far.

Oh wait, you know how they say 'if everyone talks about that guy, and you've never met someone like that guy then you probably are that guy'
I might be that guy,
what if I'm that guy?
am I that guy?
excuse me...

*goes off on journey of self-discovery*

To be fair I've been guilty of a good moan every now and again and so have some of the other players down at my store, but we just shake hands afterwards and its all forgoten about.

I guess the worst guy down at our store is the guy who brings the big thing every week for apocalypse. Now I know that apocalypse is just bring what you want and throw it on the table, but we play 2400pts and this guy brings down something about a third to a half of the cost of his army list. When it dies he usually has a good moan about it. No problem with that really since the rest of us find it a bit entertaining. He has a habit of moaning about his luck with dice rolls, which is fine normally, but I think its the manner in which he does it. Everybody in the store usually gets the gist of what poor luck he has because he says it that loud.

Also to be fair I've had a few gamers sulk in games against me but I don't blame them and its understandable since I do play Tau and sometimes its ridiculous the amount of fire power I can lay down. Problem is, I don't even try to cheese the list out max unless its the apocalypse game. I wouldn't call the list I use for our normal 40k a power gamer list. Its just a really effective list for my meta down at my store. However I did lose at the weekend there to a marine list so things are changing.

I've played one once - at whw I played a grey knights player who made rules up as soon as he started losing. He was surprised I took his Land raider out turn one with 'only' 6 lascannons and it went downhill from there...

Okay so every time I go to tourney I get stuck against this guy who cheats and slow plays like a mofo. He calls BS on the most basic rules and always adds 3 inches to his moves. He tries to pin my bikes, tries to bs the stats of his internet meta army of the week, his psych grenades dropped all my stats to 1, made me ld2 and removed fearless on a single roll.... anymore the most common phrase said to him is "lemme see your codex" youre lucky if you see turn 3 against him. He is that slow unless he is winning.

 Quientin wrote:
Okay so every time I go to tourney I get stuck against this guy who cheats and slow plays like a mofo. He calls BS on the most basic rules and always adds 3 inches to his moves. He tries to pin my bikes, tries to bs the stats of his internet meta army of the week, his psych grenades dropped all my stats to 1, made me ld2 and removed fearless on a single roll.... anymore the most common phrase said to him is "lemme see your codex" youre lucky if you see turn 3 against him. He is that slow unless he is winning.

My god...I'm sorry to hear that ._. Sounds like a total zoghead

Well I get my kicks letting him cheat a little and fighting him to a draw so he gets no prize support. It satisfying when I get him when he has an unfair advantage.

Thinking back, there was a guy at ard boys who asked me what game my figs were from. He called a ref over and snitched "his figs are illegal. He said theyer from some game called rogue trader"

 Quientin wrote:
Thinking back, there was a guy at ard boys who asked me what game my figs were from. He called a ref over and snitched "his figs are illegal. He said theyer from some game called rogue trader"

Brilliant .

 Quientin wrote:
Well I get my kicks letting him cheat a little and fighting him to a draw so he gets no prize support. It satisfying when I get him when he has an unfair advantage.

Thinking back, there was a guy at ard boys who asked me what game my figs were from. He called a ref over and snitched "his figs are illegal. He said theyer from some game called rogue trader"

Anybody who says something like that is obligated to immediately turn in their 40ker card.