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 kronk wrote:
"Now, however, visitors to Walt Disney World and Disneyland can obtain a Disability Access Service Card which allows them to schedule a return time for rides based on current wait times. The system prevents those with disabilities from having to wait in line, but only allows visitors to schedule one attraction at a time. "

Perfectly reasonable response.

 whembly wrote:
So let me get this straight.

The disabled+family is still able to get in the shorter line at the set time?

Right?

The issue is that the disabled kid+family couldn't do the same ride over, and over again like they did under the old policy?

Well, from my understanding of what kronk is saying: They still have to "wait in line" (if they would have to spend 60 minutes in the line, they get to come back and 'skip' the line in 60 minutes), they just don't have to physically "wait in line".

So an Autistic child still has to wait 60 minutes to get on the ride, same as everybody else, but they can spend those 60 minutes playing with their family/visit Disney characters/walk around/not being cooped up between 100 other people without any ability to move express themselves and making everybody else in line angry because "they can't control their child".

It seems like the most reasonable compromise between "doesn't get to skip in line" and "doesn't have to wait in line".

 Asherian Command wrote:

Not really. I just looked at the thread, and I agreed with what has been said. Mostly about the fact that the Parents assume that they have more rights and are ensured better quality products above everyone else, just because they are parents Which is kind of funny, because that would only allow people who don't have a disability to abuse that system.
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Fixed that for you. Parents can sometimes be holier then thou in and look for reasons to be it. I bet these are the type of parents that look for pity and admiration because they have a disabled kid. They used them to feel like they are better then those in line. These people dont care about their kids, but their ability to skip lines.

 d-usa wrote:

 kronk wrote:
"Now, however, visitors to Walt Disney World and Disneyland can obtain a Disability Access Service Card which allows them to schedule a return time for rides based on current wait times. The system prevents those with disabilities from having to wait in line, but only allows visitors to schedule one attraction at a time. "

Perfectly reasonable response.

 whembly wrote:
So let me get this straight.

The disabled+family is still able to get in the shorter line at the set time?

Right?

The issue is that the disabled kid+family couldn't do the same ride over, and over again like they did under the old policy?

Well, from my understanding of what kronk is saying: They still have to "wait in line" (if they would have to spend 60 minutes in the line, they get to come back and 'skip' the line in 60 minutes), they just don't have to physically "wait in line".

So an Autistic child still has to wait 60 minutes to get on the ride, same as everybody else, but they can spend those 60 minutes playing with their family/visit Disney characters/walk around/not being cooped up between 100 other people without any ability to move express themselves and making everybody else in line angry because "they can't control their child".

It seems like the most reasonable compromise between "doesn't get to skip in line" and "doesn't have to wait in line".

Not quite... everyone has ALWAYS had to get in a line.

In a "fast pass" system: There's already two lines.

One normal line and one "fast pass" line. The fast pass line is almost always MUCH shorter. In order to get this "fast pass", you'd have to get the fast pass ticket about an hour earlier. Obviously, you wont be able to use the fast pass line as there's a Disney worker there waiting to accept the appropriate ticket for that timeslot.

I think you can only have two fast pass tickets at one time. (at least, thats how it worked two years ago). Which isn't a big deal... you just had to plan it out carefully.

Traditionally, those with the Disability Access Service can simply use the fast pass line (also marked with disability signs) whenever they want.... and they could theoretically jump in front of the line (I didn't see that though... the line moved quickly enough anyway).

Now, it seems like they'll have their own special fast pass system... which, if they can use that and the traditional fast pass system, they'll have plenty of rides to choose from in the shorter line.

 AduroT wrote:
If you implemented the system for everyone, and didn't restrict it to only a single ride at a time, then everyone would be in every line. That system will fall apart rapidly when the wait times are hours long for every ride.

There's a whole world between letting people just a single ride at a time and letting people book unlimited rides. You could, for instance, say that given the average ride queues at the park then in a given day a person usually only rides 8 rides, therefore a person can only book on 8 rides spread over the day, and no more than 2 of the really popular rides. Or some other system control.

But more than the minor details of how this might be applied, I really just don't understand people's mentality that they'll complain about a general idea without ever spending time thinking about how that could be made to work. They note a problem and then just declare the whole system won't work, without ever spending any time thinking about what obvious changes could be made to adjust that system.

I mean, in this case it's particularly odd because as Smacks informs me, Disney already has a system in place for pre-booking rides. So in effect people are saying a system could never work when it already exists. Very weird.


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 Smacks wrote:
Apparently they do already have this at Disney, it's called Fast Pass, is free, and according to reviews it seems to work quite well. Yet people still queue because I guess they don't do their research...

Ah, thanks for the information. My work here is done... or rather was pointless from the beginning

At some other parks you can pay ten times more for a fast-track ticket that lets you cut to the front of lines. It's possible that since queues create a market for this, parks would have little interest in eliminating them.

Yes, and I really don't like that kind of system. We as a species are a funny lot, able to tolerate all kinds of unfairness and accept other people having more than us in all kinds of circumstances, but watching someone walk to the front of the queue because they simply paid more is something that just talks all the fun out of the experience.

They are saying the system doesnt work FOR THEM, because their kids might have a meltdown if they cant ride a ride over and over again.

I thiiiiiiiiink its actually the samee fast pass system. I know when we went years ago you could only book one ride at a time. But back then we could pass the time by chasing dinosaurs.

 Frazzled wrote:
I thiiiiiiiiink its actually the samee fast pass system. I know when we went years ago you could only book one ride at a time. But back then we could pass the time by chasing dinosaurs.

Is that what the kids are calling it now? We ussed to call it getting baked.

We used to call it not getting eaten.