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 Jihadin wrote:

 Mr Nobody wrote:

 Jihadin wrote:

 Crablezworth wrote:

 Jihadin wrote:
This guy tried to join ISIS .

Evidence? He also never had a passport to revoke in the first place.

One thing we do know is he begged a judge to be put in jail to help get clean from crack cocaine, We do know that.

He applied for a passport to go to Syria
http://news.nationalpost.com/2014/10/23/ottawa-shooter-read-posts-by-isis-convert-calling-for-attacks-on-canada/

Also it seems he was influence

So we have a ISIS wannabe who appear to have wanted to join ISIS but could not do it so he carried out a attack possibly in their name. ISIS was quick to pounce on that bit of propaganda.
So why the attack on the war memorial then. Why target the soldier and then go at Parliament.

It doesn't appear well planned. It's possible he shot him because he looked like the first good target.

Or a target to make a statement.

Canada votes to assist the US in bombing ISIS
Imam from ISIS calls on attack on western nations who also single out Canada to be attacked
Two soldier killed by a vehicle and driver killed by LEO two days before this attack

Then a Soldier killed at the War Memorial
Same individual made a attack on the parliament where he was opted out.

Edit

What's the distance from Memorial to Parliament. He had numerous targets he could have taken out. Mainly LEO but he went for the soldier and then jacked a car(?) and went for Parliament

The entire attack was about a minute and 22 seconds I think so not far.

 Jihadin wrote:


What's the distance from Memorial to Parliament. He had numerous targets he could have taken out. Mainly LEO but he went for the soldier and then jacked a car(?) and went for Parliament

Less than 500 meters, more like 350. In the closed circuit video that's been put out, you see people running away from him but he doesn't fire on any of them.

 Crablezworth wrote:

 Jihadin wrote:


What's the distance from Memorial to Parliament. He had numerous targets he could have taken out. Mainly LEO but he went for the soldier and then jacked a car(?) and went for Parliament

Less than 500 meters, more like 350. In the closed circuit video that's been put out, you see people running away from him but he doesn't fire on any of them.

Mhmm, I was gonna say that as well. He jacked an MP's car, but didn't shoot the MP himself.

He did get the Canadian PM to do his best R Kelly impersonation;

So, did the cops catch the other guys they were looking for?

 Khornholio wrote:
So, did the cops catch the other guys they were looking for?

Aye. Was there really two additional shooters because last I heard it seems to just the Wannabe Jihadist

No, there was just one guy.

 Khornholio wrote:
So, did the cops catch the other guys they were looking for?

The "second shooter" was due to mass hysteria more or less, people were claiming there was another shooter in a nearby mall, but there was nothing to that.

That always happens in these kind of shooting sprees.

 KamikazeCanuck wrote:
That always happens in these kind of shooting sprees.

Especially with he fact that even in photos from the day it's hard to tell who's a cop, who's a soldier, and everything in between. The reality is if it was a mumbai style thing, the "terrorists" shooters or whatever could just as easily be wearing tac gear/vest and sporting a submachine gun or assault rifle.



At this point we're all waiting for the rcmp to release the video buddy recorded. I'm tired of inferences.

 KamikazeCanuck wrote:
That always happens in these kind of shooting sprees.

That's true. They almost always report that there are multiple shooters at first (or that there might be), and they're almost always wrong.

 Hordini wrote:

 KamikazeCanuck wrote:
That always happens in these kind of shooting sprees.

That's true. They almost always report that there are multiple shooters at first (or that there might be), and they're almost always wrong.

Sadly, the actual truth, as it's happening doesn't "sell"... Which, IMHO is the great travesty of the modern media machine.... What happened to the days (that obviously never actually existed) where the News reported the facts as they were known?

 Ensis Ferrae wrote:

 Hordini wrote:

 KamikazeCanuck wrote:
That always happens in these kind of shooting sprees.

That's true. They almost always report that there are multiple shooters at first (or that there might be), and they're almost always wrong.

Sadly, the actual truth, as it's happening doesn't "sell"... Which, IMHO is the great travesty of the modern media machine.... What happened to the days (that obviously never actually existed) where the News reported the facts as they were known?

I wouldn't be surprised if those never existed. Even in the origins of print journalism in the early Renaissance, people sensationalized their stories (for example, I read a Renaissance pamphlet about how a Java native killed some British sailors and the writer was playing it up that the Java man was a barbarian, sub-human, heathen, possessed, etc).

It's just a more pronounced problem now because, instead of waiting for hours (or even a day) for the information to become more solidified, news has to be instant. In the quest to report the news first, there isn't time for fact checking, hence why we end up with news reporting multiple shooters, that the shooter was an ISIS sleeper agent, etc before these are even verified.

So much for keeping us informed.

 Andilus Greatsword wrote:

So much for keeping us informed.

I'd only go so far as to say that we're "better" today about combating Yellow Journalism which was a huge problem in the early 20th Century. Further, I think that some news men, like Walter Kronkite tried to bring a respectability into the profession by talking facts as much as possible, even if there was still a bias or playing up of details.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/justin-bourque-statement-to-rcmp-shows-no-remorse-for-killings-1.2814230

Now mind you, you have to understand before you read the following quote that the person who said the following was white:

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"I felt pretty accomplished. I know you think that is pretty sick," Bourque says in the statement.

"It's sad they had a wife and kids, but every soldier has a wife and kid."

Police officers and soldiers are "all in the same basket," he says.

The victims may have been good men, but they chose to "fight for the Crown," Bourque says.

"I would have probably taken more down and kept going from there," he says.

"I'm not a bad guy, I'm just a cop killer."

"Everybody who's ever fought for freedom's killed somebody."

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But, like, totally not a terrorist or anything, hard to take advantage of the crimes he committed to further one's political goals...