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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/10/22 15:40:29
Subject: Attack on Parliament: Police confirm several shootings; gunman loose - Canada
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http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/breaking-news-oct-22/article21217602/?click=sf_globe#dashboard/follows/
The crack of gunshots rang through the halls of Parliament Hill’s Centre Block on Wednesday after a gunman fired on soldiers guarding Canada’s main war memorial, sending MPs into hiding and all federal government buildings into lockdown.
Ottawa police confirmed on Twitter that they were investigating several shootings.
Eyewitnesses said an armed man with long black hair emerged at the National War Memorial, fired about four times, and a guard went down. The gunman, who an eyewitness said was carrying what appeared to be a rifle, then ran toward Parliament Hill.
The war-memorial shooting victim was taken to hospital in an ambulance. Police have sealed off the area.
There were also reports of gunfire near the Chateau Laurier hotel, just east of Parliament Hill, shortly before 11 a.m.
One body was visible outside the Library of Parliament, roughly in the middle of Centre Block, but it was unclear if that was a suspect or a law enforcement official.
In an indication that the situation remained tense, the RCMP sent out a warning advising people to stay out of harm’s way in downtown Ottawa shortly before 11 a.m. – more than one hour after the first shots were fired. “Citizens are advised to stay off rooftops and away from windows in the downtown core. Avoid downtown core,” the force said via Twitter.
Ottawa police also warned the public against tweeting the locations of officers investigating the attack.
Prime Minister Stephen Harper “is safe and has left Parliament Hill,” Jason MacDonald, his director of communications, said via Twitter. Liberal Leader Justin Trudeau and NDP Leader Thomas Mulcair were also reported to be safe.
Police officers at the cenotaph, which is cordoned with yellow tape and bordered by cruisers, ordered bystanders and journalists to move farther away from the crime scene, toward the Rideau Centre mall.
Tensions ran high as the officers yelled at journalists to get back around 10:30 a.m. (ET), with one officer shouting: " Move down! There's an active shooter! If you want to die, stay here. If you want to live, keep moving!”
Liberal MP John McKay said he was just taking off his jacket about to go into the caucus room when he heard "Pop! Pop! Pop! Pop!" He assumed the sounds were construction noise, but then security guards rushed down the halls ordering everybody out.
Mr. McKay said the MPs followed security out the back door and then they "huddled out back by the monuments" for a while. "That building is the people's building ... I'd hate to think of us shutting it down because of both paranoia and legitimate fears."
One man watched the scene unfold from a third-floor office that faces the war memorial. “It was unreal,” said the witness, who asked not to be identified. “I heard the shot and looked out the window. . . The shooter came from the west side and aimed right at the young guy that was standing guard and shot him twice. I think he missed with the first shot; it sounded like a shotgun.”
He saw the young soldier fall. No one returned fire. Other guards and police converged on the victim. The scene was “mayhem,” he said.
Bank of Canada Governor Stephen Poloz postponed a planned 11.15 a.m. news conference in Ottawa, due to take place in the National Press theatre, across Wellington Street from Parliament Hill. The news conference was to follow Wednesday’s release of the central bank’s interest rate statement and monetary policy report.
Ottawa mayor Jim Watson released a statement saying he was “shocked and saddened.”
“Our thoughts and prayers are with those injured,” he said.
“Ottawa Paramedics and Fire Services provided first response to those injured and Ottawa Police Services are engaged with other law enforcement agencies at this time in pursuit of the criminal or criminals who have carried out this vicious and unwarranted attack.”
In Toronto, Ontario Premier Kathleen Wynne says she and the opposition leaders discussed suspending Question Period in light of the Ottawa shooting, but she says “we refuse to be silenced.”
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In response to Ahtman in the other thread, mine has no connection to Islam yet. That could change once shooters are captured. I did find this, however.
http://www.ijreview.com/2014/10/190416-isiss-call-lone-wolf-attacks-hits-canada-jihadist-just-ran-two-soldiers/
ISIS’ call for “lone wolf attacks” has hit North America.
The attack took place while two soldiers were standing in a parking lot in Montreal. One soldier was wearing his uniform. The man behind the wheel, 25-year-old Martin Roulea, intentionally hit the armed forces members and then attempted to make a getaway from police in pursuit.
However, Roulea lost control of his getaway car during the chase and flipped. As Roulea made his exit from the vehicle, police exercised the use of deadly force. One of the soldiers Roulea hit didn’t survive. The other only sustained minor injuries.
According to the Independent:
The Royal Canadian Mounted Police said that Rouleau was known to federal authorities, including counter-terrorism agencies, who “were concerned that he had become radicalised”.
In addition, a textbook weapon of choice for terrorists was recovered at the scene.
While it’s unclear if Roulea planned to use the knife on his victims, the chilling profile picture from his alleged Twitter account reveals whom he supports:
Also, according to an interview from Canada’s The Star with a former friend of Roulea’s, the aspiring ISIS recruit tried to flee the country to fight jihad but was stopped by the authorities. RCMP Commissioner Bob Paulson supported the story, revealing that Roulea’s passport have been revoked.
Adding context to the tragedy, Roulea’s friends explained that he had tried to convert them, that “it was a terrorist attack” and “Martin died like he wanted to.” Not shockingly, Roulea was under surveillance for suspected extremists activities.
Even more disturbing, officials said that close to 80 individuals had linked up with terror groups abroad and now returned home. But they are not able to keep tabs on the jihadists because of strained government resources.
Last month, VICE conducted an exclusive interview with an ISIS terrorist in Mosul who proudly claimed that he knew thousands of people in the West prepared to carry out attacks for the Islamic State. Whether this specific incident was a lone wolf or an orchestrated attack remains up for debate.
However, one thing is vividly clear: From the Oklahoma beheading to this attack on Canadian soldiers, ISIS is finding sympathizers here in the West. And what was once labeled a regional threat is now all too close to home.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/10/22 15:50:01
Subject: Attack on Parliament: Police confirm several shootings; gunman loose - Article Title
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/10/22 15:54:59
Subject: Attack on Parliament: Police confirm several shootings; gunman loose - Article Title
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5th God of Chaos! (Yea'rly!)
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Second attack in a week in Canada. The incident comes just two days after two Canadian soldiers were run over - and one of them killed - in Quebec by a man with jihadist sympathies.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/10/22 16:00:53
Subject: Attack on Parliament: Police confirm several shootings; gunman loose - Article Title
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Troubling news, but I'm surprised this thing happens in Canada, what with the high level of gun ownership, thus acting as a deterrent against.
Doesn't your average Canadian have more guns than your average American?
I'm surprised a citizen didn't return fire, but then, every situation is unique.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/10/22 16:01:26
Subject: Attack on Parliament: Police confirm several shootings; gunman loose - Article Title
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Frazzled wrote:Second attack in a week in Canada.
The incident comes just two days after two Canadian soldiers were run over - and one of them killed - in Quebec by a man with jihadist sympathies.
Is that the same incident as my edit or a different one?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/10/22 16:12:55
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/10/22 16:16:45
Subject: Attack on Parliament: Police confirm several shootings; gunman loose - Article Title
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Do_I_Not_Like_That wrote:Troubling news, but I'm surprised this thing happens in Canada, what with the high level of gun ownership, thus acting as a deterrent against.
Doesn't your average Canadian have more guns than your average American?
I'm surprised a citizen didn't return fire, but then, every situation is unique.
My guess is if someone is willing to shoot at presumably armed soldiers, they would not be deterred by the idea that Joe Citizen might be packing.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/10/22 16:22:49
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Do_I_Not_Like_That wrote:Troubling news, but I'm surprised this thing happens in Canada, what with the high level of gun ownership, thus acting as a deterrent against.
Doesn't your average Canadian have more guns than your average American?
I'm surprised a citizen didn't return fire, but then, every situation is unique.
I think the thing is, while Canada has a lot of guns, Canadians tend to see guns more as tools for fending off bears, hunting (bears), sport shooting, and protecting livestock (from bears), than as self defense weapons (except when it comes to bears). As such guns tend to be clustered more in rural areas, and cities have fairly low gun-per-capita ratios.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/10/22 16:23:24
Subject: Attack on Parliament: Police confirm several shootings; gunman loose - Article Title
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Courageous Grand Master
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jasper76 wrote: Do_I_Not_Like_That wrote:Troubling news, but I'm surprised this thing happens in Canada, what with the high level of gun ownership, thus acting as a deterrent against.
Doesn't your average Canadian have more guns than your average American?
I'm surprised a citizen didn't return fire, but then, every situation is unique.
My guess is if someone is willing to shoot at presumably armed soldiers, they would not be deterred by the idea that Joe Citizen might be packing.
Fair point.
Having read many a story of criminals in the USA being foiled by Joe Public returning fire, I just thought something similar happened in Canada, but as I say, every situation is unique and I wouldn't blame anybody if they ran off or dived for cover, instead of getting involved.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/10/22 16:31:11
Subject: Attack on Parliament: Police confirm several shootings; gunman loose - Canada
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I'm not up on Canadian laws, but I'm sure the average joe isn't allowed to conceal carry like they are in the US.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/10/22 16:31:43
Subject: Re:Attack on Parliament: Police confirm several shootings; gunman loose - Canada
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http://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/gunman-killed-in-ottawa-3-shootings-confirmed-1.2065443
While it's definitely a potential, I think it's still a little early to be calling this one another home-grown moron with wanna-be jihadist ideals...
We've got plenty of other idiot radicals besides just the dumb*** Islamists, some of those eco-terror groups are equally terrifying, and they've got a huge hate-on right now for the Harper Conservs because of oil sands developments for examples.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/10/22 16:32:34
Subject: Attack on Parliament: Police confirm several shootings; gunman loose - Article Title
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5th God of Chaos! (Yea'rly!)
The Great State of Texas
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jasper76 wrote: Do_I_Not_Like_That wrote:Troubling news, but I'm surprised this thing happens in Canada, what with the high level of gun ownership, thus acting as a deterrent against.
Doesn't your average Canadian have more guns than your average American?
I'm surprised a citizen didn't return fire, but then, every situation is unique.
My guess is if someone is willing to shoot at presumably armed soldiers, they would not be deterred by the idea that Joe Citizen might be packing.
This is Canada. They only have long guns and severe restrictions on those including required licensing.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/10/22 16:32:43
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Do_I_Not_Like_That wrote:Troubling news, but I'm surprised this thing happens in Canada, what with the high level of gun ownership, thus acting as a deterrent against.
Doesn't your average Canadian have more guns than your average American?
I'm surprised a citizen didn't return fire, but then, every situation is unique.
we have lots of guns, they are illegal to carry, and illegal to have in a state where we could reasonably use them to defend ourselves and others (taking a gun out of locked cabinet, removing a 2nd trigger lock, then loading it with ammo that also has to be stored separately, will always take less time then it takes a bad guy to pull the trigger and run away)
so not sure where the surprise is coming from...
only things like concealed carry where citizens already have loaded guns has a fast enough response time to make a difference, in *most* cases.
its sad, but this looks like the fallout from the global jihad, far too much crazy and far too many willing to be lone wolfs.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/10/22 16:45:12
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Frazzled wrote: jasper76 wrote: Do_I_Not_Like_That wrote:Troubling news, but I'm surprised this thing happens in Canada, what with the high level of gun ownership, thus acting as a deterrent against.
Doesn't your average Canadian have more guns than your average American?
I'm surprised a citizen didn't return fire, but then, every situation is unique.
My guess is if someone is willing to shoot at presumably armed soldiers, they would not be deterred by the idea that Joe Citizen might be packing.
This is Canada. They only have long guns and severe restrictions on those including required licensing.
Damn you! You're destroying my idealised view of Canada being a friendlier version of America!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/10/22 16:58:55
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Not sure if satire or /fanfiction.
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Amidst the mists and coldest frosts he thrusts his fists against the posts and still insists he sees the ghosts.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/10/22 17:01:44
Subject: Re:Attack on Parliament: Police confirm several shootings; gunman loose - Canada
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I live in ottawa, downtown is all baghdad and gak right now. Everyone is on lockdown, my brother was in centre block 20 minutes before the shooter opened fire. Second shooter apparently opened fire near the chateau laurier then fled into the rideau center. Basically ottawa is a bad episode of 24 right now.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/10/22 17:03:30
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I can get a list for you. A long one.
But I'll just point you to "Google" and let you do it yourself. It doesn't get into the papers much because a stopped robbery isn't as exciting as a murder.
Just last week someone in my local stopped an armed robbery at a convenience store. Didn't even make the local paper.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/10/22 17:11:46
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I can get a longer list of crimes that weren't stopped by civilians with firearms, which is neither here nor there tbh. My disbelief doesn't stem from the idea that (some) people have used their weapons to foil a criminal, it is in the "many a story" and the idea that is an incredibly common occurrence.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/10/22 17:21:46
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Ahtman wrote:
I can get a longer list of crimes that weren't stopped by civilians with firearms, which is neither here nor there tbh. My disbelief doesn't stem from the idea that (some) people have used their weapons to foil a criminal, it is in the "many a story" and the idea that is an incredibly common occurrence.
Armed citizens stopping crimes is a much more common occurence than people getting murdered with guns. Even the Brady Center admits it.
Larry Corrreia's blog:
So how often are guns actually used in self-defense in America? http://www.guncite.com/gun_control_gcdguse.html
On the high side the estimate runs around 2.5 million defensive gun uses a year, which dwarfs our approximately 16,000 homicides in any recent year, only 10k of which are with guns. http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/homicide.htm Of those with guns, only a couple hundred are with rifles. So basically, the guns that the anti-gunners are the most spun up about only account for a tiny fraction of all our murders.
But let’s not go with the high estimate. Let’s go with some smaller ones instead. Let’s use the far more conservative 800,000 number which is arrived at in multiple studies. That still dwarfs the number of illegal shootings. Heck, let’s even run with the number once put out by the people who want to ban guns, the Brady Center, which was still around 108,000, which still is an awesome ratio of good vs. bad.
So even if you use the worst number provided by people who are just as biased as me but in the opposite direction, gun use is a huge net positive.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/10/22 17:25:49
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5th God of Chaos! (Yea'rly!)
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Ahtman wrote:
I can get a longer list of crimes that weren't stopped by civilians with firearms, which is neither here nor there tbh. My disbelief doesn't stem from the idea that (some) people have used their weapons to foil a criminal, it is in the "many a story" and the idea that is an incredibly common occurrence.
You just made the argument for why we shouldn't have police...
CNN reporting multiple gunmen, but that could be jitters.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/10/22 17:29:12
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Prestor Jon wrote:Armed citizens stopping crimes is a much more common occurence than people getting murdered with guns.
But shootings in general still aren't that common, unless you buy into the myth that America is all shooting all the time. Considered the level of political efficacy here I suppose I should have known that saying that shootings in the USA aren't as common as some people seem to think would somehow be taken as an anti-gun stance.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/10/22 17:30:03
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Frazzled wrote: Ahtman wrote: I can get a longer list of crimes that weren't stopped by civilians with firearms, which is neither here nor there tbh. My disbelief doesn't stem from the idea that (some) people have used their weapons to foil a criminal, it is in the "many a story" and the idea that is an incredibly common occurrence. You just made the argument for why we shouldn't have police... CNN reporting multiple gunmen, but that could be jitters. No. I think it's multiple gunmen from what I've heard. One of them's been spotted near a large mall downtown. One of the gunmen's already been shot down from what I heard though.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/10/22 17:30:20
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multiple gun men seems to be the most reported that I see too frazz.
unfortunately also just heard that the man who was shot has passed.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/10/22 17:30:29
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Frazzled wrote:You just made the argument for why we shouldn't have police...
I'm not sure how recognizing this isn't a cinematic Western or 80's action movie means that there is also no crime at all or that somehow we don't need any law enforcement.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/10/22 17:32:58
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Ahtman wrote: Frazzled wrote:You just made the argument for why we shouldn't have police...
I'm not sure how recognizing this isn't a cinematic Western or 80's action movie means that there is also no crime at all or that somehow we don't need any law enforcement.
frazz is correct, your claim that shootings are rare, and that armed citizens stopping crime is rare dont back up your anti gun stance, murder is rare, cops solving those rare murders is not insignificant, nor is citizens stopping crimes insignificant.
and its all OT
take it to a thread where that is the topic please, sarcasm/satire/ect about how "canadians have guns, why no stop terrorists in this case" are a bit insulting considering people have died from this (probably terrorist) attack, and its the 2nd one within a week.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/10/22 17:34:29
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easysauce wrote:multiple gun men seems to be the most reported that I see too frazz.
unfortunately also just heard that the man who was shot has passed.
Yes. Tragic.
Still debating to myself whether it may be jihadist activity due to killing the soldier (could work as a terror tactic like the beheadings) and the location of the shooting. I could be wrong though.
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Meanwhile, Prime Minister Stephen Harper "is safe and has left Parliament Hill", his director of communications wrote on Twitter.
You could hear the sigh of relief from fretting Canadians all the way over here.
Hope any and all Dakkanauts are safe and well.
In fact :
All Dakkanauts in the area are to remain safe and well
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SkavenLord wrote: easysauce wrote:multiple gun men seems to be the most reported that I see too frazz.
unfortunately also just heard that the man who was shot has passed.
Yes. Tragic.
Still debating to myself whether it may be jihadist activity due to killing the soldier (could work as a terror tactic like the beheadings) and the location of the shooting. I could be wrong though.
given that this kind of attack, its target, who carried it out, and where, is exactly what was being called for by the jihadi's, Id bet dollars to donuts they are somehow involved.
I head some accounts of eyewitnesses saying they saw the suspect with a jihadi scarf (shmege *sp*) but nothing confimed yet
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easysauce wrote: SkavenLord wrote: easysauce wrote:multiple gun men seems to be the most reported that I see too frazz.
unfortunately also just heard that the man who was shot has passed.
Yes. Tragic.
Still debating to myself whether it may be jihadist activity due to killing the soldier (could work as a terror tactic like the beheadings) and the location of the shooting. I could be wrong though.
given that this kind of attack, its target, who carried it out, and where, is exactly what was being called for by the jihadi's, Id bet dollars to donuts they are somehow involved.
I head some accounts of eyewitnesses saying they saw the suspect with a jihadi scarf (shmege *sp*) but nothing confimed yet
Well, let's cross our fingers. If ISIS sees the lockdown as a weakness, this might lead to problems in the future.
I kind of feel a bit guilty considering I used to live in Ottawa and moved to Quebec a couple of months ago.
You know, sort of like that feeling like you're leaving everyone behind to die in a way.
And thanks Reds8n
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Subject: Attack on Parliament: Police confirm several shootings; gunman loose - Article Title
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Hangin' with Gork & Mork
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Civilians shooting criminals is actually fairly rare. Most cops fight crime their entire life and never shoot anyone, and now I'm supposed to pretend that civilians are doing it with enough regularity to be considered a common occurrence?
Not sure if bait or just poor reading comprehension.
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Amidst the mists and coldest frosts he thrusts his fists against the posts and still insists he sees the ghosts.
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