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2014/11/28 23:15:27
Subject: Star Wars: The Force Awakens International Teaser Trailer
Orlanth wrote: I do hope the flight scenes here are just attention grabbers and not part of the film.
I did wonder that of the Millenium Falcon sequence at the end of the trailer. If all the Tatooine stuff takes place before they catch up with the main characters of the previous films, why a Millenium Falcon dogfight on Tatooine? It just seemed like a crowd pleasing shot to get people excited.
Fairly convinced the "lake run" will be in the film though and I did wonder if this is on Naboo (the only planet from the previous films that bears a resemblance). Of course if they go to Naboo, what race might we encounter? The horror!
We can only hope that a return to Naboo is to crush the Gungans, who joined the Empire because that's the only way we can have the protagonists gunning down hundreds of Jar-Jars to the whoops and cheers of the entire cinema.
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2014/11/28 23:15:34
Subject: Star Wars: The Force Awakens International Teaser Trailer
Mandorallen turned back toward the insolently sneering baron. 'My Lord,' The great knight said distantly, 'I find thy face apelike and thy form misshapen. Thy beard, moreover, is an offence against decency, resembling more closely the scabrous fur which doth decorate the hinder portion of a mongrel dog than a proper adornment for a human face. Is it possibly that thy mother, seized by some wild lechery, did dally at some time past with a randy goat?' - Mimbrate Knight Protector Mandorallen.
Excerpt from "Seeress of Kell", Book Five of The Malloreon series by David Eddings.
"You need not fear us, unless you are a dark heart, a vile one who preys on the innocent; I promise, you can’t hide forever in the empty darkness, for we will hunt you down like the animals you are, and pull you into the very bowels of hell." Iron - Within Temptation
2014/11/28 23:18:24
Subject: Star Wars: The Force Awakens International Teaser Trailer
Fairly convinced the "lake run" will be in the film though and I did wonder if this is on Naboo (the only planet from the previous films that bears a resemblance). Of course if they go to Naboo, what race might we encounter? The horror!
As the pod racers were chariots not flyers, if X-Wings had a chariot module allowing them a 'drive mode' then it would solve the problems at least to my satisfaction.
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2014/11/29 00:09:48
Subject: Star Wars: The Force Awakens International Teaser Trailer
LoL! That would be the closest thing to a live action Invader Zim! film we're ever likely to see.
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Orkeosaurus wrote:Star Trek also said we'd have X-Wings by now. We all see how that prediction turned out.
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2014/11/29 00:26:43
Subject: Re:Star Wars: The Force Awakens International Teaser Trailer
I really love the trailer. It looks great and is fresh enough of a take to not only not look anything like the prequels but have a nice new spin on the franchise.
The wee roller droid is probably going to be Han's Daughters companion. I can imagine it being with her since childhood.
The crackling edge indicates a fierce energy source. I think the two side "beams" might be some form of exhaust ports to release this energy.
Note how they aren't beams as such, but tail off into fumes at the end.
I'm in total agreement with this. I'm assuming because this person is perhaps not fully trained in the force and therefore can't make a proper lightsaber. This is perhaps some bastardised version that uses a different power source but functions in a similar way.
Orlanth wrote: The F-14 and Tornado shared a common characteristic of large dorsal tails. These are necessary for stabillity in low altitude flight and allowed those aircraft to fly much lower than is normally safe.
The X-Wings are travelling at stupidly low altitudes though, so much as an errant rock or slight change in the ground will result in crashes. Star Wars normally got this one right, you only saw special aerobatics as part of heroic moves, normally from the Falcon. Even the Death Star trench, while considered 'narrow' was comfortably wide for a fighter, and most fighters that came too close to the rocks went into them.
I think the flight sequences are intended to look super cool and end up looking ridiculous. Its a rtrait of JJ Abrams crass and heavy handed film making. He made the Enterprise 'cool' by turning the bridge into a walk in tanning salon (with all the sunbeds permanently switched on and the engineering deck into a pipe farm in extra dimensional space. The Enterprise was fine before this crap, and felt like a ship even with limited sets and limited budget. Now with a much bigger budget it seemed so much more fake.
This film may yet still be fethed up by JJ Abrams 'style', and while Star Wars was always over the top, there was also a grounding at least in the original trilogy.
I do hope the flight scenes here are just attention grabbers and not part of the film.
Comparing a starfighter to a modern fighter jet is pointless. Besides, Star Wars craft do not operate in accordance to our science of aeronautics and astronautics.
Star Wars has never gotten aerial/space combat right (and it doesn't need to either). Nothing seen in any of the movies is anything close to what actual spacefighter combat would really be like so saying that it has "always been grounded" is not just a stretch, it's just wrong. Now, if you want to say that the term "grounded" in relation to the Star Wars Galaxy means that it feels authentic and lived-in, then I would happily agree with you, but I don't feel that is what you are tying to say.
Also, a flight of Blue Squadron X-wings flying low over a lake/ocean and the Millennium Falcon performing an aerobatic maneuver to evade a squadron of TIE fighters look super cool, regardless of whether or not it could actually be done or not.
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Medium of Death wrote: I'm in total agreement with this. I'm assuming because this person is perhaps not fully trained in the force and therefore can't make a proper lightsaber. This is perhaps some bastardised version that uses a different power source but functions in a similar way.
It could also be an ancient Sith weapon that the wielder either found or is the original owner of, perhaps an ancient evil awoken from slumber or the like.
It would fit with the subtitle of The Force Awakens.
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2014/11/29 01:05:15
Subject: Star Wars: The Force Awakens International Teaser Trailer
When did X-wings ever follow any real life physics? They always flew like Battle of Britain era Spitfires, right down to the half roll they do before they dive.
George Spiggott wrote: When did X-wings ever follow any real life physics? They always flew like Battle of Britain era Spitfires, right down to the half roll they do before they dive.
It's well known that not only was gun camera footage uses as an inspiration to George Lucas when directing the space battles, it was used as filler for incomplete special effects shots in early screenings of the film for studio execs, friends, etc.
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2014/11/29 01:17:08
Subject: Star Wars: The Force Awakens International Teaser Trailer
X-wings actually do a lot of cool low altitude stuff in the Rogue Squadron books. This usually involves using their repulsors in interesting ways, like flying on a path that'll run you into something, but setting your repulsors to full so that as they hit it they throw you up, leaving whoever is pursuing you to eat it in the face. So it's hardly unprecedented....and as has been said, it looked fantastic.
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2014/11/29 01:28:08
Subject: Star Wars: The Force Awakens International Teaser Trailer
ScootyPuffJunior wrote: It's well known that not only was gun camera footage uses as an inspiration to George Lucas when directing the space battles, it was used as filler for incomplete special effects shots in early screenings of the film for studio execs, friends, etc.
It was footage of The Battle of Britain, 633 Squadron and The Dam Busters.
Having re-watched the trailer it occurs to me that there are three of them, as per early Battle of Britain squadron formations. Of course there may be one out of shot in that brief scene.
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2014/11/29 02:15:12
Subject: Star Wars: The Force Awakens International Teaser Trailer
The first time I watched the trailer, I was like: meh, Tatooine again, haven't we seen enough of this worthless ball of sand? ooo, a dramatically sinister narrator. Cute droid. Weird looking speeder. Cool looking Storm troopers, x-wings flying over water, darth somebody with a gimmicky red lightsaber (we desperately need a Sith with a sense of style), OMG STAR WARS THEME AND MILLENIUM FALCON!!! SQUEEEEE!!!11!!
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2014/11/29 02:26:20
Subject: Star Wars: The Force Awakens International Teaser Trailer
Wolf wrote: Is it just me or is that a new x wing design ? If it is I have to say i love it !
Yeah, the pics of the X-wings have been floating around online for a little while now. They're a little sleeker and pointier than the originals.
They are more akin to the Ralph McQuarrie conceptual designs.
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Original concept art:
The Force Awakens X-wing:
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2014/11/29 02:33:47
Subject: Star Wars: The Force Awakens International Teaser Trailer
I think I'm the only person who doesn't like the new Stormie helmets.
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2014/11/29 02:40:08
Subject: Star Wars: The Force Awakens International Teaser Trailer
Platuan4th wrote: I think I'm the only person who doesn't like the new Stormie helmets.
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I'm not entirely sold on them yet. They're less sinister than the originals, but that's possibly intentional... we don't know yet what sort of entity the Empire has become in this new timeline, so if they're not supposed to be as scary then the new design will fit.
2014/11/29 04:58:24
Subject: Re:Star Wars: The Force Awakens International Teaser Trailer
Ok (takes a deep breath) what i'm about to say may make some people on this site very angry and I just want to say before I start that i'm not trying troll people or cause any anger I'm
talking about my view on this.... I am a huge fan of the expanded universe of star wars I've read so many books about the old republic and what happened after the movies and I've loved
all of it. Star wars is the one thing I allow my self to be a huge fan boy about and love every part of it no matter what (except the prequels) so when I heard that the new movie would not be
in the expanded universe that had already been created I was pretty angry.
I just felt to me like a incredibly arrogant thing to do to completely ignore the 30 years of stories created by people who enjoyed the movies and wanted to ad to it, I mean there are so many create settings and stories from the expanded universe that they could make a movie about but instead they just ignored it.
And JJ Abrams is really not one of my favorite directors mainly because of into darkness and the cop out move that was making kahn the villain. To me that just felt like a child waving his hands desperately while shouting "ha look at me i'm like the other star trek movies because I have kahn so like me please." But thats of track anyway I will try to go into the movie with a open mind but I might need someone to there to restrain if I start shouting about something not being cannon.
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2014/11/29 05:12:58
Subject: Re:Star Wars: The Force Awakens International Teaser Trailer
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ds9lord wrote: Ok (takes a deep breath) what i'm about to say may make some people on this site very angry and I just want to say before I start that i'm not trying troll people or cause any anger I'm talking about my view on this.... I am a huge fan of the expanded universe of star wars I've read so many books about the old republic and what happened after the movies and I've loved all of it. Star wars is the one thing I allow my self to be a huge fan boy about and love every part of it no matter what (except the prequels) so when I heard that the new movie would not be in the expanded universe that had already been created I was pretty angry. I just felt to me like a incredibly arrogant thing to do to completely ignore the 30 years of stories created by people who enjoyed the movies and wanted to ad to it, I mean there are so many create settings and stories from the expanded universe that they could make a movie about but instead they just ignored it. And JJ Abrams is really not one of my favorite directors mainly because of into darkness and the cop out move that was making kahn the villain. To me that just felt like a child waving his hands desperately while shouting "ha look at me i'm like the other star trek movies because I have kahn so like me please." But thats of track anyway I will try to go into the movie with a open mind but I might need someone to there to restrain if I start shouting about something not being cannon.
Sorry. The EU is a massive pile of gak with some decent stuff occasionally. Ditching it was the best thing they could have done.
And please try line breaks and using coherent paragraphs. Wall'o'text hurts our eyes.
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The EU is a massive pile of gak with some decent stuff occasionally. Ditching it was the best thing they could have done.
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2014/11/29 05:32:02
Subject: Star Wars: The Force Awakens International Teaser Trailer
I like the X-Wings and the Stormtroopers and the new Alliance/NR pilot uniforms. I'm very glad to see that there are still regular TIE Fighters.
When I saw the landspeeder I thought that it looked like what could be an agricultural or tractor-type landspeeder...so going just off what we see in the trailer, I'm okay with it.
The longsword/broadsword lightsaber I'm not sold on yet, but it's not going to break the film for me.
The probe droid sound effects in the first scene were a nice touch as well.
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