What if we simply reject the new Imperial agents book as an replacement for the current codexes ?

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**Slayer-Fan123**

MarsNZ wrote:
ITT: SoB players upset that they're receiving the same condescending treatment that they've doled out in every CSM thread ever.

Now that's what I call quotable!

**Waaaghpower**

Pouncey wrote:

My only opponent is my mom.

And currently my plan is to quit WH40k tabletop and donate my collection of models to a thrift store because I am completely convinced that Sisters of Battle will never receive a proper update and end up being squatted entirely.

Don't donate them! Sell them to me!

**Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl**

nekooni wrote:
Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:
The only difference for SoB are whether or not Celestine is available. If someone gives me a hard time for fielding Celestine I am going to hate them very very much and not play with them (and possibly kill them dead when they are not looking?).

Or send them a sandwich with US cheese.

I AM NOT A MONSTER!
(Okay, I am one. I'll send them US cheese!)

Melissia wrote:
I'm assuming you mean "American" "Processed" "Cheese" TM(R)(C), rather than something like White Vermont Cheddar.

Cause the former is a hate crime, and the latter is awesome.

You Trumpies have edible cheese too? Why do you hide it then

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CrownAxe wrote:
You are missing the point. If they were going to squat sisters they would be doing literally nothing for them. They aren't. They get a new detachment and they got a new model. That is proof that sisters will

be stuck in a limbo forever and ever with regular minimal rule tweak releases where they mostly just lose units, until the whole range erode into oblivion.

Waaaghpower wrote:
If Cannonesses get access to Jump Packs, I'll forgive them for axing Celestine.

They don't. OF COURSE THEY DON'T, WHAT DID YOU EXPECT?

Slayer-Fan123 wrote:
MarsNZ wrote:
ITT: SoB players upset that they're receiving the same condescending treatment that they've doled out in every CSM thread ever.

Now that's what I call quotable!

Hey salty Chaos players, care to elaborate on what that “condescending treatment” is? Because I mostly remember Chaos getting tons of new plastic models, new rules and all that.

**Talizvar**

All this negativity!

I have many Inquisitor models/units, Grey Knights, Deathwatch... no SOBs (I respect you all though!) and just cannot WAIT to see what they have done.
I have a fair bit of Black Templar so I may have a sneaking suspicion of where this is going.

I would say the "normal" fluff player really will not care at all if you use the new or old codex.

Anyone who is competitive will probably want it "by the book" quite literally.

I must say though hearing Pouncy's spirit being broken about Sisters not happening and Dakka-folk crushing their spirit is rather sad.
I am pretty pessimistic and I would say getting some Sisters of Silence out may be the foot in the door.
They are still pretty Iconic in the 40k lore unlike Squats so I honestly think we will see some plastic sisters, only a hunch: next three months?

Place your bets?

What I am wondering is will they go for a more "classic" gothic look like armor that would be at home with church décor?
Or go for cleaning them up further and give more of a different vibe?
I was raised Roman Catholic so a mean looking nun would make me happy.

**dosiere**

This release and thread have me rather confused. Is this an actual update for those units or is it an optional supplement of some sort or... Something else? Sounds like maybe we don't actually know for sure?

**tneva82**

nekooni wrote:
Have I claimed that GW officially invalidates books? No. I've pointed out that GW says that the Army Lists for both Inquisition and Sisters of Battle are updated and revised in Codex: Imperial Agents. I've said that there isn't a clear ruling or anything of that kind when it comes to "is this book still legal to use in a 40k game?".

You, as a player, are free to run ANY book you like. You're free to houserule the living gak out of your 40k experience. But when you play, you have to agree on the "how you play" with the other player. And I'd say it's a save bet to say that most people expect you to run the most recent rules, unless you specifically told them otherwise. And then it's within their rights to deny playing you. If you ask them nicely many people will agree to it I'd expect, but if you start the introduction of your army with "You know how GW doesn't have a rule for invalidating old books? I'm just gonna use that fact and run a nth Edition Codex: Something now, it's totally legal", I don't think you'll be making friends that way.

And when it comes to tournaments your - and my - opinion simply doesn't matter at all. The TOs set up rules that govern the tournament. If they tell you to always use the most recent Army List for a Faction you will use that book for your Inquisition/Sisters of Battle or you will not be able to participate in that tournament. If they're cool with you using Codex: Inquisiton that's just the way it is. But I'd suggest you ask them in advance since I don't think that's the norm for a tournament.

And as I keep pointing GW considers every book they have as valid. That means even older supplement! They release supplement A. They release supplement A again. As far as GW is concerned old version contents is STILL legal to use.

Thing is unless tournament SPECIFICALLY overrides older version default is you can use it. Unless overriden by players what's legal by GW is legal to use.

**Bartali**

Stormonu wrote:
Bleh, if someone wants to force me to use this book, they can buy it for me, otherwise I'll use the books I already have.

Was there actually any changes to Grey Knights or were the units just reproduced in the new book?

If you're a competitive GK player that plays in an environment that allows unlimited detachments, then it's an essential purchase.
Deamonhunter Strike Force is 1x Terminator Squad OR 1x Interceptor Squad with optional Heavy.

A GK 1850 tournament list (as long as detachments/formations aren't limited) will likely involve 5x DSF with an Interceptor Squad and NDK in each; and an Imperial Knight

**AnomanderRake**

Bartali wrote:
Stormonu wrote:
Bleh, if someone wants to force me to use this book, they can buy it for me, otherwise I'll use the books I already have.

Was there actually any changes to Grey Knights or were the units just reproduced in the new book?

If you're a competitive GK player that plays in an environment that allows unlimited detachments, then it's an essential purchase.
Deamonhunter Strike Force is 1x Terminator Squad OR 1x Interceptor Squad with optional Heavy.

A GK 1850 tournament list (as long as detachments/formations aren't limited) will likely involve 5x DSF with an Interceptor Squad and NDK in each; and an Imperial Knight

Not sure if it's that much of an upgrade over the NSF (1x HQ/1x Troops mandatory, 2x HS optional).

**Tyranno**

Pouncey wrote:

It's a tabletop game. So long as all parties involved in the game agree, it's fine.

But you are a dragon so whatever you say goes or people get set on fire or ripped apart.

**DarknessEternal**

Bartali wrote:

If you're a competitive GK player that plays in an environment that allows unlimited detachments, then it's an essential purchase.
Deamonhunter Strike Force is 1x Terminator Squad OR 1x Interceptor Squad with optional Heavy.

A GK 1850 tournament list (as long as detachments/formations aren't limited) will likely involve 5x DSF with an Interceptor Squad and NDK in each; and an Imperial Knight