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Yeah, the knightly Order of the Fly were neat. I like the way Nurgle's followers have been represented throughout AoS, makes the battletome pretty tempting despite my aversion to all things chaos.

Also interesting to see the Vanguard with the engineer. Maybe Neave isn't done with Nurgle's farmer quite yet.
   
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According to the Maggotkin tome (you should really try it), she isn't

Can't wait for the novel about her this year !

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Haha, well it is easier to defeat a foe with more knowledge about them...

Thanks for the novel heads-up as well, missed out on that bit of info. (they're really churning out more content than I can keep track of)
   
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Trying to wrap my head around the lore for AoS. Is there a book or something that has a current timeline in it, such as when Sigmar retreated to his realm, the age of chaos, opening of the real gates, etc...?

If I've got a trade you're interested in but you don't have anything on my wanted list, just shoot me a PM and ask! I'm easily distracted!  
   
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 godswildcard wrote:
Trying to wrap my head around the lore for AoS. Is there a book or something that has a current timeline in it, such as when Sigmar retreated to his realm, the age of chaos, opening of the real gates, etc...?


https://malignportents.com/timeline/ Timeline

https://malignportents.com/realms/ the Mortal realms.

The AOS main book have the 3 ages (Myth, Chaos, Sigmar) detailed in it, but as of now, you'll have to check in various books to have the whole picture (mainly the Realmgate Wars : All-Gate, and Battletome : Everchosen).

I think we will get a better summary / explanation of the lore in the Malign portents campaign book coming in February (maybe March).

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 HorticulusDK wrote:
 godswildcard wrote:
Trying to wrap my head around the lore for AoS. Is there a book or something that has a current timeline in it, such as when Sigmar retreated to his realm, the age of chaos, opening of the real gates, etc...?


https://malignportents.com/timeline/ Timeline

https://malignportents.com/realms/ the Mortal realms.

The AOS main book have the 3 ages (Myth, Chaos, Sigmar) detailed in it, but as of now, you'll have to check in various books to have the whole picture (mainly the Realmgate Wars : All-Gate, and Battletome : Everchosen).

I think we will get a better summary / explanation of the lore in the Malign portents campaign book coming in February (maybe March).


Awesome! Thanks!

If I've got a trade you're interested in but you don't have anything on my wanted list, just shoot me a PM and ask! I'm easily distracted!  
   
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 godswildcard wrote:
 HorticulusDK wrote:
 godswildcard wrote:
Trying to wrap my head around the lore for AoS. Is there a book or something that has a current timeline in it, such as when Sigmar retreated to his realm, the age of chaos, opening of the real gates, etc...?


https://malignportents.com/timeline/ Timeline

https://malignportents.com/realms/ the Mortal realms.

The AOS main book have the 3 ages (Myth, Chaos, Sigmar) detailed in it, but as of now, you'll have to check in various books to have the whole picture (mainly the Realmgate Wars : All-Gate, and Battletome : Everchosen).

I think we will get a better summary / explanation of the lore in the Malign portents campaign book coming in February (maybe March).


Awesome! Thanks!


Some other useful info here:

http://whfb.lexicanum.com/wiki/Mortal_Realms

http://whfb.lexicanum.com/wiki/Age_of_Myth

http://whfb.lexicanum.com/wiki/Age_of_Chaos




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 Mr Morden wrote:

There is some info that even Nagash can not hang onto souls indefinitely and does not know where they go when they "move on".


Informative, thanks.

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So, there is a new MP video on FB.

The female voice could be either Neferata or Morathi (as there are hints and rumors about Soulblight and/or Aelves releases maybe coming soon....)

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 HorticulusDK wrote:
So, there is a new MP video on FB.

The female voice could be either Neferata or Morathi (as there are hints and rumors about Soulblight and/or Aelves releases maybe coming soon....)

I'm still not convinced that Morathi survived.

It's worth mentioning however that, as of the end of the End Times, there was a child of Araloth and Lileath(the Elven goddess associated with the crescent moon and magic)...
A daughter at that.
   
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 HorticulusDK wrote:
So, there is a new MP video on FB.

The female voice could be either Neferata or Morathi (as there are hints and rumors about Soulblight and/or Aelves releases maybe coming soon....)


the 'pray my children don't take you alive' comment would hint against Neferata (or any of the undead)

I'll wishlist Slanesh, waking up

 
   
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 OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:
 HorticulusDK wrote:
So, there is a new MP video on FB.

The female voice could be either Neferata or Morathi (as there are hints and rumors about Soulblight and/or Aelves releases maybe coming soon....)


the 'pray my children don't take you alive' comment would hint against Neferata (or any of the undead)

Soulblight has mention of "thralls"(yay!) in the General's Handbook and Neferata actually did refer to the Lahmians as "her children" at times.
Not saying it's a definitive thing but it's not a bad guess.


I'll wishlist Slanesh, waking up

Maybe, but its "children" have been active for some time.

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 OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:
 HorticulusDK wrote:
So, there is a new MP video on FB.

The female voice could be either Neferata or Morathi (as there are hints and rumors about Soulblight and/or Aelves releases maybe coming soon....)


the 'pray my children don't take you alive' comment would hint against Neferata (or any of the undead)

I'll wishlist Slanesh, waking up


Hmm I thought the opposite - Vampires are often considered blood-children and as she is the first Vampire (both in AOS and World-that-Was) they are all her children.

Neferata is famous for her spy network as well and finding other spies would be like her, also the slightly playful tone she adopts is very her, finishing with a threat.

Could be wrong though.

I'm still not convinced that Morathi survived.
The very first AOS rulebook talks about her being found in the Realm of Shadow?

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Interesting that they said this:

Elias may have escaped Shyish with his sanity intact, but he's drawn the attention of a shadowy[u] figure. Who could it be?

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 Mr Morden wrote:
 OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:
 HorticulusDK wrote:
So, there is a new MP video on FB.

The female voice could be either Neferata or Morathi (as there are hints and rumors about Soulblight and/or Aelves releases maybe coming soon....)


the 'pray my children don't take you alive' comment would hint against Neferata (or any of the undead)

I'll wishlist Slanesh, waking up


Hmm I thought the opposite - Vampires are often considered blood-children and as she is the first Vampire (both in AOS and World-that-Was) they are all her children.

Could be wrong though.

I'm still not convinced that Morathi survived.
The very first AOS rulebook talks about her being found in the Realm of Shadow?


Yeah, Vampires are totally called "Children of the night", and indeed Neferata is the mother of the Lahmian bloodline...

Also they will get a special set of Allegiance abilities in the Legions of Nagash BT. And Phil Kelly said on Twitch to look on the map of Shyish on the MP website for clues of new releases ... It happens that the only area with a whole faction described is Necros, where an army of Vampires have defeated the Bloodbounds...

But Morathi is indeed totally back, "still flesh and blood, but changed". Maybe Snake-like ?

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zamerion wrote:
Interesting that they said this:

Elias may have escaped Shyish with his sanity intact, but he's drawn the attention of a shadowy[u] figure. Who could it be?


Works for Morathi and Neferata - and of course they never met to my knowledge in Warhammer - Neferata had a Dark Elf contact before she took Silver Pinnacle but they did not interact directly - maybe that will change.

 HorticulusDK wrote:
 Mr Morden wrote:
 OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:
 HorticulusDK wrote:
So, there is a new MP video on FB.

The female voice could be either Neferata or Morathi (as there are hints and rumors about Soulblight and/or Aelves releases maybe coming soon....)


the 'pray my children don't take you alive' comment would hint against Neferata (or any of the undead)

I'll wishlist Slanesh, waking up


Hmm I thought the opposite - Vampires are often considered blood-children and as she is the first Vampire (both in AOS and World-that-Was) they are all her children.

Could be wrong though.

I'm still not convinced that Morathi survived.
The very first AOS rulebook talks about her being found in the Realm of Shadow?


Yeah, Vampires are totally called "Children of the night", and indeed Neferata is the mother of the Lahmian bloodline...

Also they will get a special set of Allegiance abilities in the Legions of Nagash BT. And Phil Kelly said on Twitch to look on the map of Shyish on the MP website for clues of new releases ... It happens that the only area with a whole faction described is Necros, where an army of Vampires have defeated the Bloodbounds...

But Morathi is indeed totally back, "still flesh and blood, but changed". Maybe Snake-like ?


I was thinking they sounded very Necrach like - not really like Neferata's children? White Dwarf did confirm that she is the first Vampire and so all are descended from her - although slightly different transformation - in AOS she drinks Nagash's blood.

Morathi could even be Slannesh or vice versa

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"I will admit that some Primachs like Russ or Horus could have a chance against an unarmed 12 year old novice but, a full Battle Sister??!! One to one? In close combat? Perhaps three Primarchs fighting together... but just one Primarch?" da001

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and... khalida?
   
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 Mr Morden wrote:

I'm still not convinced that Morathi survived.
The very first AOS rulebook talks about her being found in the Realm of Shadow?

Let me be a bit more clear:
When I say "Morathi survived", I don't mean that "I don't think she's alive!". It's mentioned that she's "still flesh and blood, but changed."

I mean that I'm starting to lean towards something is wearing a Morathi meatsuit. I mean that something is not right about her.
She was found in a "glade full of shadow daemons" with the exact words being used was "at the centre of that bacchanal".

It's important to remember, again, that the rumors about "cthulu aelves" weren't actually calling them out as "cthulu aelves". Hastings said Lovecraftian in his mentions. There's a broad scope of what that can actually mean.


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 HorticulusDK wrote:

But Morathi is indeed totally back, "still flesh and blood, but changed". Maybe Snake-like ?

Maybe.

Or maybe the "change" refers to something inside of her...dum dum dum*thunder crack*

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 Kanluwen wrote:
 Mr Morden wrote:

I'm still not convinced that Morathi survived.
The very first AOS rulebook talks about her being found in the Realm of Shadow?

Let me be a bit more clear:
When I say "Morathi survived", I don't mean that "I don't think she's alive!". It's mentioned that she's "still flesh and blood, but changed."

I mean that I'm starting to lean towards something is wearing a Morathi meatsuit. I mean that something is not right about her.
She was found in a "glade full of shadow daemons" with the exact words being used was "at the centre of that bacchanal".

It's important to remember, again, that the rumors about "cthulu aelves" weren't actually calling them out as "cthulu aelves". Hastings said Lovecraftian in his mentions. There's a broad scope of what that can actually mean.


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 HorticulusDK wrote:

But Morathi is indeed totally back, "still flesh and blood, but changed". Maybe Snake-like ?

Maybe.

Or maybe the "change" refers to something inside of her...dum dum dum*thunder crack*


Indeed - it could very well be that Morathi is a flesh suit for a Daemon of Slaanesh or she escaped from Slaanesh or soemthig else - hope we find out more.

I do think this particular bit is Neferata though.

"Unimaginably ancient xenos artefact somewhere on the planet, hive fleet poised above our heads, hidden 'stealer broods making an early start....and now a bloody Chaos cult crawling out of the woodwork just in case we were bored. Welcome to my world, Ciaphas."
Inquisitor Amberley Vail, Ordo Xenos

"I will admit that some Primachs like Russ or Horus could have a chance against an unarmed 12 year old novice but, a full Battle Sister??!! One to one? In close combat? Perhaps three Primarchs fighting together... but just one Primarch?" da001

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 Mr Morden wrote:

Indeed - it could very well be that Morathi is a flesh suit for a Daemon of Slaanesh or she escaped from Slaanesh or soemthig else - hope we find out more.

I do think this particular bit is Neferata though.

I'm thinking less "fleshsuit for a Daemon of Slaanesh" and more "Rasputin by way of the Hellboy film" or "Gatekeeper and Keymaster from Ghostbusters".
   
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 Kanluwen wrote:
 Mr Morden wrote:

Indeed - it could very well be that Morathi is a flesh suit for a Daemon of Slaanesh or she escaped from Slaanesh or soemthig else - hope we find out more.

I do think this particular bit is Neferata though.

I'm thinking less "fleshsuit for a Daemon of Slaanesh" and more "Rasputin by way of the Hellboy film" or "Gatekeeper and Keymaster from Ghostbusters".


Ah ok -maybe maybe - so who do you think is the Keymaster? I guess not Malkeith as he was the one who found her?. She was also part of the Pantheon that ruled the mortal realms before the Age of Chaos so it was a deep and long game?

IIRC they were Sahdow Demons she was cavorting with - not that I have found any info on what Shadow Demons are?

"Unimaginably ancient xenos artefact somewhere on the planet, hive fleet poised above our heads, hidden 'stealer broods making an early start....and now a bloody Chaos cult crawling out of the woodwork just in case we were bored. Welcome to my world, Ciaphas."
Inquisitor Amberley Vail, Ordo Xenos

"I will admit that some Primachs like Russ or Horus could have a chance against an unarmed 12 year old novice but, a full Battle Sister??!! One to one? In close combat? Perhaps three Primarchs fighting together... but just one Primarch?" da001

www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/528517.page

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 HorticulusDK wrote:
So, there is a new MP video on FB.

The female voice could be either Neferata or Morathi (as there are hints and rumors about Soulblight and/or Aelves releases maybe coming soon....)


Morathi calling someone her child, apart from Malekith, doesn't seem right. There could be something new that caused a transformation, but from what little is known I'd think she'd remained at "that", "pet", "plaything", "servants" or something similar.
   
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Eh, I'm leaning towards Neferata on this. It could be Morathi but the death focus and "children of the night" thing fit better to my mind for her.

Let me be a bit more clear: 
When I say "Morathi survived", I don't mean that "I don't think she's alive!". It's mentioned that she's "still flesh and blood, but changed." 

I mean that I'm starting to lean towards something is wearing a Morathi meatsuit. I mean that something is not right about her. 
She was found in a "glade full of shadow daemons" with the exact words being used was "at the centre of that bacchanal".

Hahaha, that was a Lot to take away from just "she didn't survive".

Interesting theory though. Such an inside asset could be why Tzeentch allowed Slaanesh to act as a sacrificial pawn.
   
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I love the delivery the voice actress gave for her bit. She managed to SOUND like a spider stalking a fly. Kudos to her.

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ERJAK wrote:
I love the delivery the voice actress gave for her bit. She managed to SOUND like a spider stalking a fly. Kudos to her.


Yeah, it was awesome.
   
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 Mr Morden wrote:

Indeed - it could very well be that Morathi is a flesh suit for a Daemon of Slaanesh or she escaped from Slaanesh or soemthig else - hope we find out more.

I do think this particular bit is Neferata though.


Or Slaanesh finally gets a named greater Daemon; Morathi.


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My dark horse candidate for the female voice :

The Lady of Cankerwell: Bearer of the Flyblown Chalice, a Seer to the order and who first converted the Duchies to the worship of Nurgle.


She's mentioned in passing a few times in novels that had Order of the Fly characters, and makes a cameo appearance in The Plague Garden novel. The voice seems too smooth and perfect for a Nurgle character though. I'll have to find the relevant part in The Plague Garden and reread how her voice is described.

Neferata is the safe bet though!

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 DarkBlack wrote:
 Mr Morden wrote:

Indeed - it could very well be that Morathi is a flesh suit for a Daemon of Slaanesh or she escaped from Slaanesh or soemthig else - hope we find out more.

I do think this particular bit is Neferata though.


Or Slaanesh finally gets a named greater Daemon; Morathi.


Oh no, don't tell me something happened to good, old N'Kari.
   
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 His Master's Voice wrote:
 DarkBlack wrote:
 Mr Morden wrote:

Indeed - it could very well be that Morathi is a flesh suit for a Daemon of Slaanesh or she escaped from Slaanesh or soemthig else - hope we find out more.

I do think this particular bit is Neferata though.


Or Slaanesh finally gets a named greater Daemon; Morathi.


Oh no, don't tell me something happened to good, old N'Kari.

If only... The thing that happened to Kugath might tough.

Might be a deamon princess, but named KoS will most likely be 40k compatible.


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 DarkBlack wrote:
 His Master's Voice wrote:
 DarkBlack wrote:
 Mr Morden wrote:

Indeed - it could very well be that Morathi is a flesh suit for a Daemon of Slaanesh or she escaped from Slaanesh or soemthig else - hope we find out more.

I do think this particular bit is Neferata though.


Or Slaanesh finally gets a named greater Daemon; Morathi.


Oh no, don't tell me something happened to good, old N'Kari.

If only... The thing that happened to Kugath might tough.

Might be a deamon princess, but named KoS will most likely be 40k compatible.


It's strange that Kairos and Skarband are still around, Ku'gath too in the 40k fluff (and heavily), but not in AOS. There, Epidemius is still around, and we got Horticulous and Rotigus also.

So really for N'kari everything is possible.

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