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I seriously hope they don't forget about some of the current loose ends in the plot. Tzeentch obviously has some plan going that that has been mentioned in several places, while Blightwar was never resolved.

 NinthMusketeer wrote:
I seriously hope they don't forget about some of the current loose ends in the plot. Tzeentch obviously has some plan going that that has been mentioned in several places, while Blightwar was never resolved.

I hope so too, and their track record makes me think that they will. The Realmgate Wars story had the search for the Everqueen and Ghal Maraz as parts of the narrative, while the overall plot was that Sigmar was aiming his forces for the Allpoints.

Horticulous being mentioned in some of the opening Malign Portents fiction makes me believe that he'll have a run in with Neave at some point and conclude the Blight War thread one way or the other.

Refresh my memory on Tzeentch's plot?

Well we don't really know what it is. We just know there is one. Tidbits are scattered throughout the Tzeentch book and also in the epilogue of the last realmgate wars, and the last entry of the Kharadron timeline.

Baron Klatz wrote:
...than the destruction of one meager world.

Nope.

Meh, compared to the chaos gods who corrupt/conquer countless worlds in both universes it is a simple world.

 NinthMusketeer wrote:

 Mr Morden wrote:
slightly confused :(

Spoiler:

So its a Stormcast attacking Verric (?) - because is a worshiper of Alarielle or somethng else?

Spoiler:

It seems likely that it is because the village is infected with some sort of Nurgle plague (or perhaps more). The white armor indicates Knights Excelsior, who are notorious hardasses when it comes to dealing with Chaos. They are somewhat like 40k Inquisitors, seeing the death of innocents as justified in beating back corruption. The City of Secrets novel does a good job of portraying them, they aren't very nice. Basically it seems that they are conducting a very tiny exterminatus on the village.

Also I imagine Tzeentch will play heavily in a plot involving Slaanesh. He's the reason it's imprisoned in the first place.

 streetsamurai wrote:

 HorticulusDK wrote:
Where do you see a slowdown ? It's all the codexes GW said they'll release till the summer.

The Bolter and Chainsword original poster said he didn't know much about February, and was probably mostly talking about 40k : that could explain the lack of MP and AOS things (even if I think we won't see more AOS models than the one I listed until April-May)

BTW the Shadepisre warbands for February are confirmed by Lady Atia too : https://war-of-sigmar.herokuapp.com/bloggings/2679

you mean the dwarves and kaven warbands that have been shown (skaven) or hevaily rumoured before?

Wasn't exactly hard to make this prediciton. I'll eat my hat if that guy is legit

No, the WHU warbands are from the 4chan poster. But was indeed leaked last week (on a strange PDF or smthg) and then confirmed by Lady Atia.

The other poster, from B&C, was right back in November about Codex Daemons and Adeptus Custodes.

So yeah, the 4chan poster may have taken the B&C and Atia rumors and mixed it together.

Or he could be legit, Anyway we'll just have to see if the next Codexes after AC and TS are indeed T'au and Necrons.

Is anyone going to watch the twitch about malign portents this afternoon?

I mean to. Is Phil Kelly only doing background writing these days or is he still involved in game design? I get the feeling this will be focused on the background with not much else information coming out of it.

 HorticulusDK wrote:

No, the WHU warbands are from the 4chan poster. But was indeed leaked last week (on a strange PDF or smthg) and then confirmed by Lady Atia.

It was "leaked" on an order sheet for retailers/distributors.

But really, the WHU warbands come from back when Shadespire launched. One of the guys from GW at an event said the next warbands would be the Skaven and Fyreslayers and that they were "Q1 2018; probably February".

zamerion wrote:
Is anyone going to watch the twitch about malign portents this afternoon?

Anyone has the time of it?

 Knight wrote:

zamerion wrote:
Is anyone going to watch the twitch about malign portents this afternoon?

Anyone has the time of it?

Starts in about 15 mins.

There is no information?

Was just talking around the background. Was an interesting listen

The closest thing to news I guess would be that new AoS original armies are coming "soon, like, real soon"

Original of originative (old world) or original of imaginative


Octopus elves coming

zamerion wrote:

Octopus elves coming

I hope they DO exist and if they do, hopefully the wait was worth it.

It was a question about armies making the most of the AoS universe

But yes, it must be Aelves soon, surely?!

I'll admit, I chuckled a little... but the farms!? I suppose this goes with the GW video explaining the AoS universe.

Phil did say that the realms of light and shadow have their own cycles of the day. For shadow it goes from pitched dark to twilight and for light it's reverse. It made me wonder how can anything actually survive in those realms, even with the information that the core of the realm is supposedly somewhat habitable.

Finally is there something as rebirth for the souls in AoS? Honestly just a thought that after you die you'll become a fuel for the biggest jerk in AoS is rather depressing.

People seem to last well in near perpetual dark / light for months at a time on Earth - of you'd grown up with that as all you'd ever known it's not exactly a problem

I’d not worry too much about real-world viability of herbivorous life in a fantasy realm composed of huge discs connected by magical portals and inhabited by literal Gods and Daemons.

“But I need this world grounded in scientific fact!”

Well either don’t play fantasy or accept their wheat needs less light.

It's not like Skaven, Chaos Warriors, or Dwarfs had any reasonable explanation for their food sources.

 NinthMusketeer wrote:
It's not like Skaven, Chaos Warriors, or Dwarfs had any reasonable explanation for their food sources.

Yes, indeed. Skaven eat Warpstone, Chaos Warriors get their energy from battles themselves and dwarves drink beer. Easypeasy.

If Slaanesh returns, I wonder if we'll see some kind of twisted Morathi-like whatever thing it may be. Could be fun and iconic.

To me, I expect one of the aelves armies will be some kind of corsair-themed.

I always just assumed Dwarves gnawed on raw mushrooms.

 Nostromodamus wrote:
I’d not worry too much about real-world viability of herbivorous life in a fantasy realm composed of huge discs connected by magical portals and inhabited by literal Gods and Daemons.

“But I need this world grounded in scientific fact!”

Well either don’t play fantasy or accept their wheat needs less light.

A bit of realism is needed to keep the willing suspension of disbelief intact, even in fantasy literature.

 NinthMusketeer wrote:
It's not like Skaven, Chaos Warriors, or Dwarfs had any reasonable explanation for their food sources.

Dwarves actually did. Chaos Warriors... not so much

 Iron_Captain wrote:

A bit of realism is needed to keep the willing suspension of disbelief intact, even in fantasy literature.

But not necessarily scientific realism, it just has to follow some logic. Perhaps in a fantasy world the growth of wheat is powered by sacrifices made to the goddess of harvest? (Probably not the case here, but just as an example.)

 Crimson wrote:

 Iron_Captain wrote:

A bit of realism is needed to keep the willing suspension of disbelief intact, even in fantasy literature.

But not necessarily scientific realism, it just has to follow some logic. Perhaps in a fantasy world the growth of wheat is powered by sacrifices made to the goddess of harvest? (Probably not the case here, but just as an example.)

Yeah. But it does need to follow some logic. If it is never explained or just handwaved with magic than that is bad worldbuilding.

 HorticulusDK wrote:
(The boxed game could be AOS, Warhammer Underworlds or Warhammer Quest)

Don't forget GW and the Middle-earth team have both announced the relaunch of Strategy Battle Game under the Middle-earth branding, and have teased
"We return to The Lord of the Rings to explore The Fall of Osgiliath and The Battle of Pelennor Fields Coming Spring/Summer 2018"

This could be the new Middle-earth SBG Starter Set "The Fall of Osgiliath"

 NinthMusketeer wrote:
It's not like Skaven, Chaos Warriors, or Dwarfs had any reasonable explanation for their food sources.

It doesn't have to be reasonable. Starvation isn't uncommon for the Skaven, as is having a bite from a fellow rat. Chaos Warriors pillage and loot. Dwarfs have trade and some underground plantations (I think). In my view those detail add something to the story telling.

You can always use "the wizard did it" or "it's just the way it is" and call it a day, however I'd consider that rather dull witted writing. That doesn't mean that you can't or shouldn't use "the wizard did it", however some moderation and consistency is wanted on my part. I think Phil also said that people are interested in more non-conflict related details in the setting and how the thing flow together.

I just hand-waved chaos warriors as sustained by the chaos gods with mutations to their metabolism to survive until they raided the Empire proper.

Dwarfs had mentions of eating bread mixed with gravel and able to go for a long time off just beer. Your hand would fly off with that much waving.

 Knight wrote:
Phil did say that the realms of light and shadow have their own cycles of the day. For shadow it goes from pitched dark to twilight and for light it's reverse. It made me wonder how can anything actually survive in those realms, even with the information that the core of the realm is supposedly somewhat habitable.

Finally is there something as rebirth for the souls in AoS? Honestly just a thought that after you die you'll become a fuel for the biggest jerk in AoS is rather depressing.

The realms have their own suns and moons too. They're not completely dependent on the light and shadow realms but those seem more consistent as the realm astral bodies are composed of magic and act strangely. It's noted by one scholar in a short story that, although he respects the Ghur sun for it's independent behavior and wild nature of choosing where and when it wants to be, it does make time-keeping a considerable challenge.

Also yes, rebirth/reincarnation is a thing. It's noted there's inner parts of the death realm even Nagash can't reach and this seems to be a source for the reincarnations to happen(it's happened in the Warbeast novel with one notable individual). So dying in the setting does basically make you a citizen/conscript under Nagash's rule but you can win the death lottery and be reborn.

Edit: just realized you meant the light and shadow realm cycles Themselves, whoops.

Well either don’t play fantasy or accept their wheat needs less light.

Reminds me of my favorite quote "fantasy needs to make sense, reality doesn't".

I imagine if the wheat of the realm of shadows doesn't adjust other vegatation inevitably must. At worst they can end up trading it from other realms (or the realm next door that's full of light).

 Knight wrote:

 NinthMusketeer wrote:
It's not like Skaven, Chaos Warriors, or Dwarfs had any reasonable explanation for their food sources.

It doesn't have to be reasonable. Starvation isn't uncommon for the Skaven, as is having a bite from a fellow rat. Chaos Warriors pillage and loot. Dwarfs have trade and some underground plantations (I think). In my view those detail add something to the story telling.

You can always use "the wizard did it" or "it's just the way it is" and call it a day, however I'd consider that rather dull witted writing. That doesn't mean that you can't or shouldn't use "the wizard did it", however some moderation and consistency is wanted on my part. I think Phil also said that people are interested in more non-conflict related details in the setting and how the thing flow together.

What I meant to say is that some degree of assumption/handwaveium was required back in WHFB days, the degree we have it now (in AoS) is equivalent or less than what it was. They were pretty clear in the video that there are vast sections of the realms that are normal/close enough to it that conventional cities and farms are built. That's already putting the realm of life (and to a lesser extent beasts) aside, where 'magic makes it grow' is less an assumption and more a basic premise of the lore.

Overall I find AoS to be more reasonable on the facet of food production.