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 Matt.Kingsley wrote:

Tbf they did say that it was going to be about the background, not the rules.

True... but they didn't even deliver on that really barring about 30 seconds talking about the new organs. They didn't describe the background of any previously unknown units that are in the book nor share any artwork. The only "new" unit they discussed was the already shown repulsor tank and that was only to say that it's grav system is very indelicate and more like a plow than a gentle skimmer. Even if they weren't going to talk about rules, I think it would be a reasonable expectation for a stream about the new marine codex to actually talk about and at least partially show what was new in the new marine codex. There is more info in the typical 30 second GW teaser youtube video than in this 1 hour stream.

 warboss wrote:
About the only new info they shared was details on what exactly the new Primaris organs are.

Oh! What are they?

I'd guess most of the rules stuff will be in the game stream tomorrow.

 Crimson wrote:

 warboss wrote:
About the only new info they shared was details on what exactly the new Primaris organs are.

Oh! What are they?

The Belisarrian Furnace, which is what lets them fight to the end in bursts of adrenaline fuelled madness(think of what the Ancient lets them do).
The Steel Within--their muscles are all Wolverined up.
They didn't really talk about the third.


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 warboss wrote:

 Matt.Kingsley wrote:

Tbf they did say that it was going to be about the background, not the rules.

True... but they didn't even deliver on that really barring about 30 seconds talking about the new organs. They didn't describe the background of any previously unknown units that are in the book nor share any artwork. The only "new" unit they discussed was the already shown repulsor tank and that was only to say that it's grav system is very indelicate and more like a plow than a gentle skimmer. Even if they weren't going to talk about rules, I think it would be a reasonable expectation for a stream about the new marine codex to actually talk about and at least partially show what was new in the new marine codex. There is more info in the typical 30 second GW teaser youtube video than in this 1 hour stream.

That's actually the part that I was most disappointed about. I was hoping they might talk a bit more in-depth about the Reivers or something like that.

 Kanluwen wrote:

 Crimson wrote:

 warboss wrote:
About the only new info they shared was details on what exactly the new Primaris organs are.

Oh! What are they?

The Belisarrian Furnace, which is what lets them fight to the end in bursts of adrenaline fuelled madness(think of what the Ancient lets them do).
The Steel Within--their muscles are all Wolverined up.
They didn't really talk about the third.

Indeed. The "steel within" part was described as metal coils around their tendons that give them increased strength. They did show a screen shot of the page with the organs I assume from the new book but I couldn't blow it up on my phone to see what it actually said about the third.

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 warboss wrote:

 Matt.Kingsley wrote:

Tbf they did say that it was going to be about the background, not the rules.

True... but they didn't even deliver on that really barring about 30 seconds talking about the new organs. They didn't describe the background of any previously unknown units that are in the book nor share any artwork. The only "new" unit they discussed was the already shown repulsor tank and that was only to say that it's grav system is very indelicate and more like a plow than a gentle skimmer. Even if they weren't going to talk about rules, I think it would be a reasonable expectation for a stream about the new marine codex to actually talk about and at least partially show what was new in the new marine codex. There is more info in the typical 30 second GW teaser youtube video than in this 1 hour stream.

That's actually the part that I was most disappointed about. I was hoping they might talk a bit more in-depth about the Reivers or something like that.

Also agreed. While I hoped for some rules tidbits, I expected new background info and previews of art since that's what they advertised. Instead, they mainly rehashed what was already known from the Dark Imperium novel and the core rulebook fluff interspersed with how proud they were about themselves because of things like the previous campaign and how they brought a primarch back.

While the Warhammer Live broadcast focused on delivering information on the new space marines' background, the narrators did mention some of the new rules briefly.

For example they told the viewers that the bonus rules for squadrons of 3 space marine tanks, such as 3 predators' Kill-shot and 3 vindicators' Linebreaker Bombardment, will be brought back as unique Strategems.

Sagittarii Orientalis wrote:
While the Warhammer Live broadcast focused on delivering information on the new space marines' background, the narrators did mention some of the new rules briefly.

For example they told the viewers that the bonus rules for squadrons of 3 space marine tanks, such as 3 predators' Kill-shot and 3 vindicators' Linebreaker Bombardment, will be brought back as unique Strategems.

Nice.

I think i will like this approach to "formation" bonuses. while free its 100% limited based on how you build your army and you lose out on options the more you use it.

Sagittarii Orientalis wrote:
For example they told the viewers that the bonus rules for squadrons of 3 space marine tanks, such as 3 predators' Kill-shot and 3 vindicators' Linebreaker Bombardment, will be brought back as unique Strategems.

The Index only allows Predators to be bought singly. Does this mean Marine players will be able to purchase three Predators for a single Heavy Support slot again?

As already mentioned not much new info

Two screenshots - Beaky Brigade and Carlo on B&C forum

Huh, so they resurrected the Scythes of the Emperor? Nice touch.

 Oguhmek wrote:
Huh, so they resurrected the Scythes of the Emperor? Nice touch.

They were never killed off, just left hanging by a thread. Also they are mentioned in the Primaris book from the starter set.

 VictorVonTzeentch wrote:

 Oguhmek wrote:
Huh, so they resurrected the Scythes of the Emperor? Nice touch.

They were never killed off, just left hanging by a thread. Also they are mentioned in the Primaris book from the starter set.

Yup, they were an example of an understrength chapter that was bolstered by Primaris Marines. Crimson Fists were another.

I am guessing all 10 releases this year will be marine or chaos related

More attention on chapters beyond the first founding is always nice. I'm keeping my fingers crossed for Primaris chapter upgrade kits beyond the usual suspects of Ultras, Wolves and Angels.

Decals, maybe? But machining and press time to produce plastic components for chapters that probably barely register numbers beyond homebrew will probably remain a pipe dream until they develop some sort of 3D print on demand service. (Or just straight up use an existing 3D print on demand service..)

 daemonish wrote:
I am guessing all 10 releases this year will be marine or chaos related

yes this shouldn't be a surprise

 axisofentropy wrote:

 daemonish wrote:
I am guessing all 10 releases this year will be marine or chaos related

yes this shouldn't be a surprise

I'd be surprised if it wasn't.

 Azreal13 wrote:
Decals, maybe? But machining and press time to produce plastic components for chapters that probably barely register numbers beyond homebrew will probably remain a pipe dream until they develop some sort of 3D print on demand service. (Or just straight up use an existing 3D print on demand service..)

It's a shame they gave up on metal casting, metal casting was perfect for pumping out a few low number upgrade sets.

AllSeeingSkink wrote:

 Azreal13 wrote:
Decals, maybe? But machining and press time to produce plastic components for chapters that probably barely register numbers beyond homebrew will probably remain a pipe dream until they develop some sort of 3D print on demand service. (Or just straight up use an existing 3D print on demand service..)

It's a shame they gave up on metal casting, metal casting was perfect for pumping out a few low number upgrade sets.

Oh dear Emperor, no! A mere thought of metal upgrade bits for plastic models makes me shudder. Never again!

 Crimson wrote:

AllSeeingSkink wrote:

 Azreal13 wrote:
Decals, maybe? But machining and press time to produce plastic components for chapters that probably barely register numbers beyond homebrew will probably remain a pipe dream until they develop some sort of 3D print on demand service. (Or just straight up use an existing 3D print on demand service..)

It's a shame they gave up on metal casting, metal casting was perfect for pumping out a few low number upgrade sets.

Oh dear Emperor, no! A mere thought of metal upgrade bits for plastic models makes me shudder. Never again!

Buy better glue and learn to use it. I remember a mate having his hybrid plastic/metal bretonnians fall apart every single game we played because he never glued them together properly in the first place

Yeah, I never had issues with attachment. Ludicrously heavy heavy weapons making plastic models fall over all the time, maybe, but attachment? Not often.

 Azreal13 wrote:
Yeah, I never had issues with attachment. Ludicrously heavy heavy weapons making plastic models fall over all the time, maybe, but attachment? Not often.

Shoulder pad type things no issues.

Solid metal lascannon or plasma cannon? no thanks.

 Azreal13 wrote:
Yeah, I never had issues with attachment. Ludicrously heavy heavy weapons making plastic models fall over all the time, maybe, but attachment? Not often.

Never a problem attaching. Tons of problems when they hit the floor, which happens often enough with me...

Buy some shag carpet. Problem solved.

All my carpet's shag carpet baby.

 Elbows wrote:
Buy some shag carpet. Problem solved.

Just don't game at Warhammer World; solid flagstone floors #shudder#

Am I the only one who misses the metal models?
I mean, its still better than fine cast, right? And they have a nice weight to them.

That said, some of the larger models are just terrible. Like the Slaan or the Deff Dread, which have a nasty habit of falling over.

https://war-of-sigmar.herokuapp.com/bloggings/2235#disqus_thread Possibly a very blurry Primaris Apothecary on the back cover screenshot?

 Jadenim wrote:

 Elbows wrote:
Buy some shag carpet. Problem solved.

Just don't game at Warhammer World; solid flagstone floors #shudder#

I wouldn't game there purely because the Forge World store is constantly staring at you and threatening your wallet.

GoatboyBeta wrote:
https://war-of-sigmar.herokuapp.com/bloggings/2235#disqus_thread Possibly a very blurry Primaris Apothecary on the back cover screenshot?

Wow, nice spot, yep that's definately a new apothecary model! Looks like he has all the gear as the artwork apothecary. Now, I might be imagining things too, but those bulky dudes on the far right look like Inceptors - But not like inceptors, they are clearly walking. Possible Agressors?