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It's not a rumour, that came from an interview with the designers.

Though I think you are also correct in that SCE will be used in each starter to help people go "oh, that's that Shadespire thing"

 Insane Ivan wrote:
The Shadespire logo has been replaced with a screaming ghost face, so I'm guessing that we have a new location, but it's still tied to Nagash somehow. Or would it still be in Shadespire?

I didn't see this ghost face logo in your post or the Warhammer Community link - am I just missing it?

Also wondering if the card backs will be different - which would mean you would have to sleeve cards if you want to make a combined deck from both "seasons", right?

557 cards, so.. 10-12 team this time?

 RiTides wrote:

 Insane Ivan wrote:
The Shadespire logo has been replaced with a screaming ghost face, so I'm guessing that we have a new location, but it's still tied to Nagash somehow. Or would it still be in Shadespire?

I didn't see this ghost face logo in your post or the Warhammer Community link - am I just missing it?

Also wondering if the card backs will be different - which would mean you would have to sleeve cards if you want to make a combined deck from both "seasons", right?

It's the little circular icon next to the card's number: the logo there is different for the original range of 437 Shadespire cards. Easy to miss!

As for the card backs, that is a good question. I don't believe we know whether both "seasons" of Warhammer Underworlds will be compatible (so that you can play warbands of both seasons against each other). I certainly hope so, though! Even if they are, we might still get different card backs, I suppose - it's a "good" reason to sell us sleeves (which I haven't bought any of, so far).

EDIT: thinking about it, while allowing us to play teams from different Underworlds Seasons against each other, for balance reasons I could imagine you can only use cards from the same "season" as your team is from. That would also allow them to make cards for the new version of Underworlds that do the same thing as those of the old season without having too many effectively "duplicate" cards to choose from when creating your deck.

Vorian wrote:
It's not a rumour, that came from an interview with the designers.

That's interesting. Can you link me to that interview (or, at least, point me in its direction)? I mean, the Bloodreavers, I can believe being old kits, but Shadespire had the first female Stormcast. There's no way that's an old model that was just lying around.

I linked it earlier in the thread - it was one of the dice tower guys on a little holiday over to Nottingham. Should come up with a Google

Edit: https://youtu.be/KDyZvJjSYpU

Think it's that one, haven't got time to check at the moment!

Do we have any eta for the Far Striders/Khorne lads?

Vorian wrote:
I linked it earlier in the thread - it was one of the dice tower guys on a little holiday over to Nottingham. Should come up with a Google

Edit: https://youtu.be/KDyZvJjSYpU

Think it's that one, haven't got time to check at the moment!

That seems to be it, thanks! Specially, they said that the models were created for AoS in an attempt to see how far they could push the easy build models, and they were originally going to be released for AoS, but the two designers thought they could make a game around it (which is an impressive feat, given that limitation). So they weren't old kits, but they weren't initially designed for Shadespire. Which means, I guess, that wave 2 should have models designed specifically for it, and they should be even better.

 Insane Ivan wrote:


As for the card backs, that is a good question.

The current card back logo is embedded into the Warhammer Underworlds title.

The card backs likely won't change, but we might see multiple competitive formats, like in Magic - the current season (Standard) and everything goes events (Eternal).

Welp, I said I'd get this game when a Nighthaunts warband comes out so I suppose I need to stick to my guns. Very excited to see some spooky ghosts.

April 14 release day

That's not too far off, good. I've got mixed feelings on these two warbands but if I have spare cash I might get one of them.

I'm here hoping Van Saar also got release on the same day.

Blue and red like the original warbands? I hope there’s at least a little colour difference (if not, I’ll have to get painting).

Gold would have been a better color for Stormcast

Sexy. I know most people are sick of Khorne and Stormcast, but I'm not (except for Bloodreavers, I hate those guys). I notice that they share dice sets with the previous warbands.

I'm content with the dice not changing, I mean those are kind of the iconic colors for the factions. Plus one dice pack (stormcast) being useable across the starters set, farstriders, plus the stormcast wizards/magic type that was hinted at....I dunno that seems like a lot of usefulness out of a dice pack. They need to save other colors for different factions.

Chopstick wrote:
Gold would have been a better color for Stormcast

It's bad enough priming over the blue plastic, I'd hate gold.

WD leak of new warband.

Even though the models aren’t super unique for these last 2 teams quite interested to see how the khorne team fits with the sigmarite and ork teams and how the rangers get away with mass ranged attacks.

Very excited for Magore and crew. More bloodwarriors the better, also this means GW has Fleshhound plastic sculpts lying around just itching for a new release sometime.

 Zognob Gorgoff wrote:
Even though the models aren’t super unique for these last 2 teams quite interested to see how the khorne team fits with the sigmarite and ork teams and how the rangers get away with mass ranged attacks.

Probably the same way they get away with them in AoS:

The attacks kinda suck. 9" range, 2 attacks, 3+ hits 4+ wounds no rend and 1 damage. Heroes(Lord-Aquilor and Blacktalon) are 3+ hit 3+ wound with their hand crossbows.
I'd have been a bit more concerned/interested if there was a Vanguard-Raptor in the mix with the Longstrike or Hurricane Crossbow but the Vanguard seem to be just Hunters.

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2018/04/01/

Pre-order next week

I'm not really too impressed by the Farstriders if I'm going to be honest. I've basically converted the leader myself for a Lord-Aquilor in a campaign(we got to use all of the various Relic lists and I gave mine the relic bird from the Wanderers list).

Khorne side is pretty dang nice though.

Both warbands are undeniably nice sculpts, and at a price point where they are worth getting for the sake of completeness. But IMO they just seem to lack the personality that the other Shadspire mini's have had.

Khorne inspires with a successful attack, Stormcast inspires by ending the action phase in enemy turf.

Interesting a ranged side that has to advance to get inspired - could be cool - could be pointless.

GoatboyBeta wrote:
But IMO they just seem to lack the personality that the other Shadspire mini's have had.

Khorne boys have identical loadout. All three. No other warband was this bland...

GoatboyBeta wrote:
Both warbands are undeniably nice sculpts, and at a price point where they are worth getting for the sake of completeness. But IMO they just seem to lack the personality that the other Shadspire mini's have had.

Speaking for myself:
The Khorne side has some decent personality to them. The Farstriders are just...there.

It's the same issue the rest of the Vanguard kits have: For what are supposed to be the 'scouts' and 'assassins' of the Stormcast, they're not very (forgive me for using this term...) dynamic.
They all fall into the same category of:
a) Legs being just far enough apart to almost kinda/sorta convey 'movement!'.
b) Aiming their hand crossbow and having their melee weapon held low.
OR
c) Holding their hand crossbow up in the air and having their melee weapon held so that it looks like they're slashing with it.

The Palladors don't suffer as much from this and the Raptors are just static period.

Would have loved one of these Hunters to be crouched with weapons holstered, looking like he's examining tracks or kind of in a 'sneaking' pose with the hand crossbow holstered and sword/axe out to deal with a sentry.

Magore is gonna be a fine Chaos Lord for my army, and that Flesh Hound is gonna be a nice Karanak.

The other two sculpts will be just generic BloodWarriors.