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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/08 09:11:13
Subject: Re:The Firstborn - Rawson's Vostroyans: Hydra Flak Tank 8-7
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Da Head Honcho Boss Grot
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Well I would say yes ……… but then I will be wrong any way
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/08 09:52:01
Subject: The Firstborn - Rawson's Vostroyans: Hydra Flak Tank 8-7
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Using Inks and Washes
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I like the look, it would really suit your army. Go for it!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/08 12:51:03
Subject: Re:The Firstborn - Rawson's Vostroyans: Hydra Flak Tank 8-7
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Pyromaniac Hellhound Pilot
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lone dirty dog wrote:Well I would say yes ……… but then I will be wrong any way
You no likey?
prototype_X wrote:I like the look, it would really suit your army. Go for it!
Prototype X likey!
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The 104th Vostroyan Mechanized
Rawson's Reboot
Viktor von Domm: nope... can´t do that for the sake of all lving creatures that dwell on earth....
dsteingass: That's like saying "I forgot to tell you who your real father is"
nerdfest09: Rawson speaks the truth! |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/08 15:47:09
Subject: Re:The Firstborn - Rawson's Vostroyans: Hydra Flak Tank 8-7
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Horrible attempt from Paint, but it conveys they idea:
I think it would look very cool.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/08 19:45:35
Subject: The Firstborn - Rawson's Vostroyans: Hydra Flak Tank 8-7
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Shroomin Brain Boy
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i say: me likey too... but how? where will you get these muzzels from? and if you´d be living next door to me i would even encourage you more because then i would try to persuade you in giving me those then obsolete muzzles of the AC...
and skalk... tho horribly done... i gotta agree... that would look very cool...^^
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/08 21:20:50
Subject: The Firstborn - Rawson's Vostroyans: Hydra Flak Tank 8-7
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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YES! Flare the Barrels!!
Automatically Appended Next Post: @Barksdale, That is an awesome-looking build dood! I just MAY steal that for a halftrack idea I've had for a long time. I think you just gave me the idea I was fumbling for!
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2012/08/08 21:23:37
"dave you are the definition of old school..." -Viktor Von Domm My P&M Blog :
It's great how just adding a little iconography, and rivets of course, can make something look distinctly 40K-adamsouza
"Ah yes, the sound of riveting.....Swear word after swear word and the clinking of thrown tools" "Nope. It sucks do it again..."- mxwllmdr
"It puts together more terrain, or else it gets the hose again...-dangledorf2.0
"This is the Imperium, there is no peace, there are only rivets" -Vitruvian XVII
"I think rivets are the perfect solution to almost every problem"- Rawson
More buildings for the Building God! -Shasolenzabi
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/08 21:25:51
Subject: Re:The Firstborn - Rawson's Vostroyans: Hydra Flak Tank 8-7
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Pyromaniac Hellhound Pilot
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Skalk Bloodaxe wrote:Horrible attempt from Paint, but it conveys they idea:
I think it would look very cool.
Well done, sir!  I hadn't looked at the FW Hydra for some time now; I'm actually quite glad that you posted it, as it will be a big help in bulking up the ACs
Viktor von Domm wrote:i say: me likey too... but how? where will you get these muzzels from? and if you´d be living next door to me i would even encourage you more because then i would try to persuade you in giving me those then obsolete muzzles of the AC... 
"How" truely is the question. I'm not really sure yet, but I will figure something out. I think it will be an addition to the existing barrels rather than making them obsolete, tho. Sorry, Vik
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The 104th Vostroyan Mechanized
Rawson's Reboot
Viktor von Domm: nope... can´t do that for the sake of all lving creatures that dwell on earth....
dsteingass: That's like saying "I forgot to tell you who your real father is"
nerdfest09: Rawson speaks the truth! |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/08 21:45:16
Subject: The Firstborn - Rawson's Vostroyans: Hydra Flak Tank 8-7
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Shroomin Brain Boy
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d´oh....
i would look for really tiny caps of felt pens... the merest tip might work here... or you could go for PC rods... and use a pencil sharper to get it coneshaped...OR... just GS them...that will be no big deal i think for you...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/08 21:47:14
Subject: The Firstborn - Rawson's Vostroyans: Hydra Flak Tank 8-7
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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I hear rumor that the Guard are getting a new plastic Hydra kit soon!
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"dave you are the definition of old school..." -Viktor Von Domm My P&M Blog :
It's great how just adding a little iconography, and rivets of course, can make something look distinctly 40K-adamsouza
"Ah yes, the sound of riveting.....Swear word after swear word and the clinking of thrown tools" "Nope. It sucks do it again..."- mxwllmdr
"It puts together more terrain, or else it gets the hose again...-dangledorf2.0
"This is the Imperium, there is no peace, there are only rivets" -Vitruvian XVII
"I think rivets are the perfect solution to almost every problem"- Rawson
More buildings for the Building God! -Shasolenzabi
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/08 22:22:24
Subject: Re:The Firstborn - Rawson's Vostroyans: Hydra Flak Tank 8-7
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Da Head Honcho Boss Grot
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No I likey  do it do it DO IT
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/09 09:24:10
Subject: The Firstborn - Rawson's Vostroyans: Hydra Flak Tank 8-7
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Pyromaniac Hellhound Pilot
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Viktor von Domm wrote:i would look for really tiny caps of felt pens... the merest tip might work here... or you could go for PC rods... and use a pencil sharper to get it coneshaped...OR... just GS them...that will be no big deal i think for you...
That's my first plan: start looking around for something that would work. It's a bit too regular of a shape to do in GS (at least for me  )
dsteingass wrote:I hear rumor that the Guard are getting a new plastic Hydra kit soon!
Always happens to me.  As soon as I get the nerve to do my scratch built Thunderbolt, that's when they'll got through with the plastic one, too
lone dirty dog wrote:No I likey  do it do it DO IT
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The 104th Vostroyan Mechanized
Rawson's Reboot
Viktor von Domm: nope... can´t do that for the sake of all lving creatures that dwell on earth....
dsteingass: That's like saying "I forgot to tell you who your real father is"
nerdfest09: Rawson speaks the truth! |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/09 16:08:19
Subject: The Firstborn - Rawson's Vostroyans: Hydra Flak Tank 8-7
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Battleship Captain
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Rawson wrote:
dsteingass wrote:I hear rumor that the Guard are getting a new plastic Hydra kit soon!
Always happens to me.  As soon as I get the nerve to do my scratch built Thunderbolt, that's when they'll got through with the plastic one, too

well you better hurry up and start building then
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/09 20:38:18
Subject: Re:The Firstborn - Rawson's Vostroyans: Hydra Flak Tank 8-7
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Pyromaniac Hellhound Pilot
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Not a lot of work done today, but I was digging through my bits box to see what I could find. I whipped up a fancy little MSPaint pic to show off my results.
First priority was to find something to increase the overall length of the cannon. I think a section of the HW Missle Launcher works pretty good!
Second was to find something to recreate the feel of the WWII German flak cannonbarrel. I found two possibilites, neither of which I'm very happy with. The heavy stubber and hull flamer both have the correct shape, but the scale is wrong for my Hydra.
Anyways, any great ideas or CC would certainly be welcome
Thanks for looking,
Rawson
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The 104th Vostroyan Mechanized
Rawson's Reboot
Viktor von Domm: nope... can´t do that for the sake of all lving creatures that dwell on earth....
dsteingass: That's like saying "I forgot to tell you who your real father is"
nerdfest09: Rawson speaks the truth! |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/09 21:23:10
Subject: The Firstborn - Rawson's Vostroyans: Hydra Flak Tank 8-7
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Shroomin Brain Boy
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hmmm.... i think the look of the third one is best... the muzzle is rather to the point with the extra detail...
tho a thought just appeared....why not do the muzzle in multiple layers of holepunched PC? you could to it in 5 or more layers getting ever smaller ... then if you are feeling like that...you could smooth the sides with filler and sand them down... tho i bet it would look cool with that stairway look to it too...
OR... you could use a small rod of styrene and use a pencil sharper and shape it acrodingly...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/09 21:55:38
Subject: The Firstborn - Rawson's Vostroyans: Hydra Flak Tank 8-7
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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That is awesome! But the flared barrel doesn't look right. The cone needs to extend from the barrel circumference out, The vented bit needs to go, I'd just replace the whole barrel from the support up if I were you.
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"dave you are the definition of old school..." -Viktor Von Domm My P&M Blog :
It's great how just adding a little iconography, and rivets of course, can make something look distinctly 40K-adamsouza
"Ah yes, the sound of riveting.....Swear word after swear word and the clinking of thrown tools" "Nope. It sucks do it again..."- mxwllmdr
"It puts together more terrain, or else it gets the hose again...-dangledorf2.0
"This is the Imperium, there is no peace, there are only rivets" -Vitruvian XVII
"I think rivets are the perfect solution to almost every problem"- Rawson
More buildings for the Building God! -Shasolenzabi
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/09 23:18:02
Subject: Re:The Firstborn - Rawson's Vostroyans: Hydra Flak Tank 8-7
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Witch Hunter in the Shadows
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Rawson, for extending the barrels, I found this and thisquite good for some ideas. Not to say the ML won't work, but I think these are a wee bit easier.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/10 08:44:57
Subject: Re:The Firstborn - Rawson's Vostroyans: Hydra Flak Tank 8-7
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Da Head Honcho Boss Grot
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Why don't you just buy some WW2 barrels instead for the ends, you can get a good selection on line
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/10 08:49:26
Subject: The Firstborn - Rawson's Vostroyans: Hydra Flak Tank 8-7
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Yeah, if you wanted to do this, then I'm sure you could find a plastic kit. Perhaps a bofors gun?
In general, though, what you're proposing is going to be VERY difficult to make from scratch. I'd rather go with a more conventional barrel than something that was too difficult to execute. I guess I'm just rather conservative that way...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/10 14:57:32
Subject: The Firstborn - Rawson's Vostroyans: Hydra Flak Tank 8-7
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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No waay, it's super-simple man, just plastic tube and a flared bit of some kind glued together.
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"dave you are the definition of old school..." -Viktor Von Domm My P&M Blog :
It's great how just adding a little iconography, and rivets of course, can make something look distinctly 40K-adamsouza
"Ah yes, the sound of riveting.....Swear word after swear word and the clinking of thrown tools" "Nope. It sucks do it again..."- mxwllmdr
"It puts together more terrain, or else it gets the hose again...-dangledorf2.0
"This is the Imperium, there is no peace, there are only rivets" -Vitruvian XVII
"I think rivets are the perfect solution to almost every problem"- Rawson
More buildings for the Building God! -Shasolenzabi
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/10 23:00:55
Subject: The Firstborn - Rawson's Vostroyans: Commissar Input Needed
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Pyromaniac Hellhound Pilot
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Viktor von Domm wrote:OR... you could use a small rod of styrene and use a pencil sharper and shape it acrodingly...
The pencil sharpener is a pretty good idea, Vik! I may end up using that
dsteingass wrote:That is awesome! But the flared barrel doesn't look right. The cone needs to extend from the barrel circumference out, The vented bit needs to go, I'd just replace the whole barrel from the support up if I were you.
Barksdale wrote:Rawson, for extending the barrels, I found this and thisquite good for some ideas. Not to say the ML won't work, but I think these are a wee bit easier.
Perhaps easier, but I think the proportions get a bit off when you just make a long barrel and leave the rest the same size
lone dirty dog wrote:Why don't you just buy some WW2 barrels instead for the ends, you can get a good selection on line
I looked, but couldn't find any. If you've got a link I'd be interested
Ailaros wrote:Yeah, if you wanted to do this, then I'm sure you could find a plastic kit. Perhaps a bofors gun?
In general, though, what you're proposing is going to be VERY difficult to make from scratch. I'd rather go with a more conventional barrel than something that was too difficult to execute. I guess I'm just rather conservative that way...
dsteingass wrote:No waay, it's super-simple man, just plastic tube and a flared bit of some kind glued together.
I think I'm with Dave on this one. The scratch build doesn't seem so bad (though finding that perfect bit is always better in my book  )
I put the hydra aside for the moment, and got out an old favorite.
The only major thing I have left is the GS work on his left boot, but I'm not sure what I want to put there. I was thinking "JUSTICE", but I don't think it will fit well. I thought about "TERRA", but the likelyhood of him coming from there was slim. Another aquila, but that seemed a bit repetative. Any good ideas?
Since I was a standstill, I started digging out bits for his base. I'd like to give him a bit of elevation for an imposing feel and have a few options lined up. What to you guys like?
My two favorites are the eldar piece and the fuel drum, but I'm open to other thoughts.
I worked on the artillery officer a bit, but I'm not happy yet, so no pics yet.
Open season for CC.
Thanks for looking,
Rawson
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The 104th Vostroyan Mechanized
Rawson's Reboot
Viktor von Domm: nope... can´t do that for the sake of all lving creatures that dwell on earth....
dsteingass: That's like saying "I forgot to tell you who your real father is"
nerdfest09: Rawson speaks the truth! |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/10 23:09:43
Subject: The Firstborn - Rawson's Vostroyans: Commissar Input Needed
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Using Inks and Washes
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I like the fuel drum idea, one thing I've found is when you put race specific things on the base, you have to continue that theme throughout the army to achieve a coherent look. (ie more eldar things on bases) That's just my opinion anyway. I love the model.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/10 23:35:03
Subject: The Firstborn - Rawson's Vostroyans: Commissar Input Needed
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Lord Commander in a Plush Chair
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I LOVE that commissar Rawson I think I need to copy that conversion, I also think the fuel drum would be the best choice for the elivation
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/11 14:42:04
Subject: Re:The Firstborn - Rawson's Vostroyans: Commissar Input Needed
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Da Head Honcho Boss Grot
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Love the commissar looking the dogs bollix  Maybe some simple beading design on the other side, I would not go over board as it might look to busy, it look sway to good to ruin it
I will look for a link mate I saw one the other day, just have to remember it now
I agree with prototype_x don't go with race related scenery ties you down to much.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/11 19:29:39
Subject: The Firstborn - Rawson's Vostroyans: Commissar Input Needed
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Shroomin Brain Boy
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hey rawson...
the fuel drom and that metal piece on the far right are my favorite choices...
but io have another issue about the commissar... i would like you to consider biggerizing the front piece of the cap...dunno the right word... the thingy that protects the eyes from the sun?... could do with a bit more length...
as for the other boot... i think we all know the answer to that one... probably in the end it will be another skull^^
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/11 22:04:06
Subject: Re:The Firstborn - Rawson's Vostroyans: Commissar Input Needed
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Hardened Veteran Guardsman
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I think the metal bar structure, on the far right, looks quite nice for basing.
As for the GS, how about adding the word "Repent"?
I still can't comprehend the innovative design of the Commissar!
Kudos to you my friend!
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My tough lance thrusteth sure,
My strength is as the strength of ten,
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/12 07:09:59
Subject: The Firstborn - Rawson's Vostroyans: Commissar Input Needed
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Pyromaniac Hellhound Pilot
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prototype_X wrote:I like the fuel drum idea, one thing I've found is when you put race specific things on the base, you have to continue that theme throughout the army to achieve a coherent look. (ie more eldar things on bases) That's just my opinion anyway. I love the model.
Thanks, prototype_X! I know what you mean with the race bases. I like a little bit of story behind the characters reflected on their bases (the whole reason I'm adding a commissar is that a mostly decimated striking scorpion squad beat my combined squad in CC then caught them in a sweeping advance), but perhaps that particular eldar scrap is a bit too overt.
Rogue Wolves wrote:I LOVE that commissar Rawson I think I need to copy that conversion, I also think the fuel drum would be the best choice for the elivation
Thanks, RW!  Another vote for the fuel drum.
lone dirty dog wrote:Love the commissar looking the dogs bollix  Maybe some simple beading design on the other side, I would not go over board as it might look to busy, it look sway to good to ruin it
I will look for a link mate I saw one the other day, just have to remember it now
I agree with prototype_x don't go with race related scenery ties you down to much.
Dogs bollix? I hope that's a good thing
Viktor von Domm wrote:
the fuel drom and that metal piece on the far right are my favorite choices...
but io have another issue about the commissar... i would like you to consider biggerizing the front piece of the cap...dunno the right word... the thingy that protects the eyes from the sun?... could do with a bit more length...
as for the other boot... i think we all know the answer to that one... probably in the end it will be another skull^^
+1 fuel drum, and a vote for the beam. I totally see what you mean about the brim of the cap. Now it will bug me and I'll probably be forced to fix it
As for the skull, I could do the winged IG version. It would fit nicely, I think: Not too asymetrical, or repetative, and makes sense fluff wise...
Joshua Von Wolkestadt wrote:I think the metal bar structure, on the far right, looks quite nice for basing.
As for the GS, how about adding the word "Repent"?
I still can't comprehend the innovative design of the Commissar!
Kudos to you my friend!
A vote for the drum and one for the beam. I'm seeing a pattern emerge.  I think "Repent" is a bit more on the Inquisition side (though that thought showed me what a cool inquisitor the witchhunter model would make  ) Thanks for you comments!
I hope to work on him some tonight (but don't hold your breath, I helped a friend tear down a wall yesterday, and I'm pretty busted  )
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The 104th Vostroyan Mechanized
Rawson's Reboot
Viktor von Domm: nope... can´t do that for the sake of all lving creatures that dwell on earth....
dsteingass: That's like saying "I forgot to tell you who your real father is"
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/12 11:20:00
Subject: Re:The Firstborn - Rawson's Vostroyans: Commissar Input Needed
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Da Head Honcho Boss Grot
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Yes in the UK the dogs Bollixes is a good thing, I really don't know why but it always has meant that  Maybe next time I will just say it looks great
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/12 11:42:57
Subject: The Firstborn - Rawson's Vostroyans: Commissar Input Needed
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Journeyman Inquisitor with Visions of the Warp
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The flak gun is great.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/12 12:26:36
Subject: Re:The Firstborn - Rawson's Vostroyans: Commissar Input Needed
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Virulent Space Marine dedicated to Nurgle
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How about a crux on the other boot?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/13 22:00:55
Subject: Re:The Firstborn - Rawson's Vostroyans: Commissar Input Needed
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Pyromaniac Hellhound Pilot
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lone dirty dog wrote:Yes in the UK the dogs Bollixes is a good thing, I really don't know why but it always has meant that  Maybe next time I will just say it looks great
A more robust knowledge of British slang was an unexpected benefit of the hours I spend on Dakka...
neil101 wrote:The flak gun is great.
Thank you, sir!
Dakka_Dok wrote:How about a crux on the other boot?
Now there's an interesting idea. Does the crux have another meaning other than terminator honors?
Here's what I got up to tonight:
I went with the fuel drum, but I went for the horizontal cut rather than the vertical because of the commissars feet. They looked quite strange perched on a curved surface. Do you think it's too high now? He quite towers over regular troopers now, which isn't so great with the new sniper rules
A bit of work done on the artillery officer:
As always, your CC is greatly desired
Thanks for looking!
Rawson
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The 104th Vostroyan Mechanized
Rawson's Reboot
Viktor von Domm: nope... can´t do that for the sake of all lving creatures that dwell on earth....
dsteingass: That's like saying "I forgot to tell you who your real father is"
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