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JimmyWolf87 wrote:
Personally I think that model is boring as gak. If it was a standard Klaivex? Fine. For Drazhar? Very uninspired.

I agree with you and the above comment about it being very busy. It's hard to explain how it's not 'ornate' enough while at the same time complaining about it being 'too busy'. But like you said, this is simply too similar to the Klaivex model that we saw prior. An extra pair of horns and more trophies does not a Phoenix Lord make. Was really hoping for a little more. I hope it has an alternate set of weapons/arms to equip it with the 2handed Klaive as well.

But beggars can't be choosers. I'm just happy to get plastic kits to replace the finecast junk we had prior. Now if only they'd give Phoenix Lords rules befitting of their leadership role like stronger inspiring auras and the ability to make their followers core in some fashion, even if it has to be a detachment or something. I would love for a large Incubi (or Striking Scorpion should we get Karandras) contingent to be not only possible, but effective as well.

Look at all those bits that will break.

Nope.

https://www.games-workshop.com/en-US/Harlequin-Death-Jester

https://www.games-workshop.com/en-US/Harlequin-Shadowseer

https://www.games-workshop.com/en-US/Solitaire

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2019/09/09/psychic-awakening-the-first-prophecygw-homepage-post-4/

what is this particular piece of masonry that all Eldar characters these days find so compelling? Is this a hint that Drazar is going to be joining the Harlequins, since he is perched upon not one, but TWO Standard Issue Harlequin Perching Masonries?


Also, lol: https://www.games-workshop.com/en-US/Dark-Eldar-Lelith-Hesperax

It was not just my imaginination telling me I've seen that character pose before.

Drukhari Players, holding their british moppet hats: "P-please sir, we only have just these three named characters to rub together for warmth....could you possibly find it in the kindness of your 'eart to give us three different poses, guv'nor?"

Games Workshop: "NO! YOU WILL TAKE YOUR POSES AND YOU WILL TAKE YOUR ELDAR MASONRY AND YOU WILL LIKE THEM! THERE SHALL BE NO PUDDING!"

I don't like the horns. I think it looks more Chaos Marine than Dark Eldar.

It's supposed to be Crone/Exodite World related stuff.

Doesn't it look like someone's tried to shove him off his portable ruin and he's thrown his arms out to try and keep his balance?

 Azreal13 wrote:
Doesn't it look like someone's tried to shove him off his portable ruin and he's thrown his arms out to try and keep his balance?

And now I'm just imagining Aeldari Gladiators, every Tuesday at 10pm on ESPN8...thanks, Azrael.

I'm really considering trying to nab a Drazhar and Incubi set. The models so far look gorgeous.

Nvs wrote:

JimmyWolf87 wrote:
Personally I think that model is boring as gak. If it was a standard Klaivex? Fine. For Drazhar? Very uninspired.

I agree with you and the above comment about it being very busy. It's hard to explain how it's not 'ornate' enough while at the same time complaining about it being 'too busy'.

It isn't particularly. 'Ornate' and 'busy' are very different concepts. His armor is ornate, the tassles are busy. Three broken spirit stones is symbolic, half a dozen at his neck, one in his head and another 5 on his... back spurs?... is just excessive.

The horns and ear armor (and the forward swoop of his mask) makes him unfortunately look more like a beastman champion than a named dark eldar.



Also, not sure why beating people with the hilts of his blades makes the damage go up, but that's a different issue. I guess on a six, he figures out how to swing them the right way 'round.



As for the perching stones, GW is very very convinced that perching makes elves look 'dynamic.' Luckily this one has briars, so you know he's Evil.

What a shock! Drahzar. Nobody guessed that GW!

I don't like that he's holding one sword by part of the blade rather than the hilt but otherwise I like it. Discouraging that we might just get Banshees, Incubi and their respective "leaders".

Well, it looks like this is the extent of the Aeldari releases. Unlike the last few "teasers", this preview does not have a "stay tuned for an new teaser next week".
So it looks like several Apsect Warrior kits will remain Finecast for the foreseeable future

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I like the model, but then I've liked every model so far excluding perhaps the standard Banshee.

Subjective opinions on models aside, it's another update with very little information. The teaser video "of things to come" that we "might glean information of the future" from literally tells us nothing that we don't already know. Eldar vs Dark Eldar?! A phoenix will rise and fall? No wai?! Thanks for that insight GW.

It looks like a Harlequin character was informing the inquisitor, is that all the new information from the video?

I'm keen to see some rules and get to a pre-order date now. This is taking some time.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
The 1KSons Terminators are like pretty much all the previous regular Terminator kits (with the exception of the BA Assault Terminator box). Any torso can go with any legs can go with any arm can go with any shoulder pad. The Plague Terminator kits have no such options. There are 5 bodies, and those bodies will always be the same (one with the Nurgling, one that's mutated into a fly with the tiny arms, and so on). You cannot mix and match as they're all set poses. The arms are built in their entirety, and whilst my kits are in the other room under too many other unbuilt things to find, I'd be willing to bet all the money in my wallet against all the money in your wallet that only certain torsos can take certain arms.

Yeah, almost. IIRC two terminator bodies share the same kind of arm "slot" and there are three arms that would fit in there. The heavy weapon guy must always take a heavy weapon (which fit on no other terminators) and the flail guy must always take the flail.
Plus the usual problem of there not being enough weapons for the squad in the box.

Place bets on the Harlequin being Sylandri Veilwalker again. Woman pops up everywhere.

Personally I think what will happen is Jain will die properly to somehow redeem Arhra.

Looking fantastic! Was only interested in the Banshees but might have to get this one too.

Voss wrote:

Nvs wrote:

JimmyWolf87 wrote:
Personally I think that model is boring as gak. If it was a standard Klaivex? Fine. For Drazhar? Very uninspired.

I agree with you and the above comment about it being very busy. It's hard to explain how it's not 'ornate' enough while at the same time complaining about it being 'too busy'.

It isn't particularly. 'Ornate' and 'busy' are very different concepts. His armor is ornate, the tassles are busy. Three broken spirit stones is symbolic, half a dozen at his neck, one in his head and another 5 on his... back spurs?... is just excessive.

The horns and ear armor (and the forward swoop of his mask) makes him unfortunately look more like a beastman champion than a named dark eldar.

Yeah, I'm not a fan of the model for this reason. Especially since (given his fluff) Drazhar seems like the last person who should be adorning himself with trophies.

Voss wrote:

Also, not sure why beating people with the hilts of his blades makes the damage go up, but that's a different issue. I guess on a six, he figures out how to swing them the right way 'round.

Can I sig this?

pm713 wrote:
Place bets on the Harlequin being Sylandri Veilwalker again. Woman pops up everywhere.

Personally I think what will happen is Jain will die properly to somehow redeem Arhra.

Everywhere except the tabletop, yup!

I see little difference between new Drazhar and regular Klaivex; point goes to the old designs - you can see Jain Zar is Phoenix Lord, not a regular warrior or Exarch.

pm713 wrote:
What a shock! Drahzar. Nobody guessed that GW!

I don't like that he's holding one sword by part of the blade rather than the hilt but otherwise I like it. Discouraging that we might just get Banshees, Incubi and their respective "leaders".

Hopefully this doesn’t ruin it for you but he’s holding both like that.

Wonder if he'll get alternate arms for wielding it 'attached'?

Love his ponytail holder.

 Jidmah wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
The 1KSons Terminators are like pretty much all the previous regular Terminator kits (with the exception of the BA Assault Terminator box). Any torso can go with any legs can go with any arm can go with any shoulder pad. The Plague Terminator kits have no such options. There are 5 bodies, and those bodies will always be the same (one with the Nurgling, one that's mutated into a fly with the tiny arms, and so on). You cannot mix and match as they're all set poses. The arms are built in their entirety, and whilst my kits are in the other room under too many other unbuilt things to find, I'd be willing to bet all the money in my wallet against all the money in your wallet that only certain torsos can take certain arms.

Yeah, almost. IIRC two terminator bodies share the same kind of arm "slot" and there are three arms that would fit in there. The heavy weapon guy must always take a heavy weapon (which fit on no other terminators) and the flail guy must always take the flail.
Plus the usual problem of there not being enough weapons for the squad in the box.

https://imgur.com/a/8qUPF

Even assuming there is absolutely no way to assemble any of the arms differently from the instruction booklet (A fact I am highly skeptical of) this is wrong. There are five combi-weapons in the kit, all of which have different bit #s so you definitely can have 5 guys without heavy weapons/flails, and there appear to be axes and swords for everybody, though maybe not enough for everyone to have axes or everyone to have swords? Also, there are two heavy guns in the kit and the instructions show two different models equipped with them.

Also, being covered in Scorpion runes kind of really does all but confirm he's Ahra, doesn't it?

Not too impressed by the eldar release so far. Everything seems bland and uninspired

pm713 wrote:
What a shock! Drahzar. Nobody guessed that GW!

I don't like that he's holding one sword by part of the blade rather than the hilt but otherwise I like it. Discouraging that we might just get Banshees, Incubi and their respective "leaders".

No different than other blades being held upside down to be honest.

The model is actually fantastic to the point I kinda want to do Dark Eldar at some point. I've always like the idea of the Dark Eldar gunboats anyway. I just hope Incubi get some improved rules.
Speaking of rules, Drazhar doesn't seem TOO bad. We need to see more of what's going on though.

Drazhar has the same problem as the Klaivex - the tassles are going in the wrong directions.

How is he supposed to be moving his arms to get both of the streamers attached to the weapons moving like that? And how would that movement work with how the streamers on the legs are arranged. And how would he be able to stand flat-footed on those tactical rocks while doing all that?

 ImAGeek wrote:

pm713 wrote:
What a shock! Drahzar. Nobody guessed that GW!

I don't like that he's holding one sword by part of the blade rather than the hilt but otherwise I like it. Discouraging that we might just get Banshees, Incubi and their respective "leaders".

Hopefully this doesn’t ruin it for you but he’s holding both like that.

Maybe the whole falling to Chaos thing was just a cover story for everyone noticing Arhra/Drahzar was too dumb to hold a sword by the not sharp bit.

I wish they would have gone with a more exotic design. His old sculpt was almost Giger-esqe, but this one looks too generic.

I think the helmet and the weapons are what irk me the most. The horns are too prominent and the weapons are just normal Klaivex weaponry. In fact, there is very little that distinguishes Drazhar from a generic Klaivex.

The old design was similar to the old Incubi design. The new design is similar to the new Incubi design.

Which is perfect for a character named "the living blade". This guy just exists to kill & even refuses high rank among the Incubi, makes sense to me that he'd look like a Klaivex +1.

Drazar has LITERALLY the same armour as the normal Incubi Klaaxi or whatever. He has his pauldrons painted golden and nothing else.
Just the helmet is a little different.

Meh, I mean the miniature is cool but is just too similar to the normal Incubi.