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 H.B.M.C. wrote:
 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
The events of the Incredible Hulk seemingly happened later than we thought, as in after/during Iron Man 2. Given the release slate I’d previously assumed it was contemporaneous with Iron Man 1.
We see footage of a reporter at Culver Unitiversity during Iron Man 2.

The Incredible Hulk has always happened around the same time as Iron Man 2/Thor.


Fair enough. Entirely missed that.

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 Grimskul wrote:
So far, still mostly underwhelmed with the What If scenarios they've put out so far.

Why can't they have covered one of the biggest fan build ups to Infinity War/Endgame that they never addressed?

Spoiler:


OMG - that's hilarious!

Question:
Spoiler:
Why was Fury so easily able to beat down Hank Pym? Never seemed anyone else has been, even Widow. Or was that all Loki?

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 MDSW wrote:
 Grimskul wrote:
So far, still mostly underwhelmed with the What If scenarios they've put out so far.

Why can't they have covered one of the biggest fan build ups to Infinity War/Endgame that they never addressed?

Spoiler:


OMG - that's hilarious!

Question:
Spoiler:
Why was Fury so easily able to beat down Hank Pym? Never seemed anyone else has been, even Widow. Or was that all Loki?
Spoiler:
My guess was all Loki, personally.


They/them

 
   
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 Sgt_Smudge wrote:
 MDSW wrote:
 Grimskul wrote:
So far, still mostly underwhelmed with the What If scenarios they've put out so far.

Why can't they have covered one of the biggest fan build ups to Infinity War/Endgame that they never addressed?

Spoiler:


OMG - that's hilarious!

Question:
Spoiler:
Why was Fury so easily able to beat down Hank Pym? Never seemed anyone else has been, even Widow. Or was that all Loki?
Spoiler:
My guess was all Loki, personally.


Oh, it absolutely was. That was the whole point. Why he monologued him into specifically taking credit for killing Thor, and he straight up blocked a super strength punch and did that fancy flip.

 
   
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OK, but kind of frustrating where hero powers are conveniently 'buffed' or 'nerfed' depending on the required plotline...

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 MDSW wrote:
 Grimskul wrote:
So far, still mostly underwhelmed with the What If scenarios they've put out so far.

Why can't they have covered one of the biggest fan build ups to Infinity War/Endgame that they never addressed?

Spoiler:


OMG - that's hilarious!

Question:
Spoiler:
Why was Fury so easily able to beat down Hank Pym? Never seemed anyone else has been, even Widow. Or was that all Loki?


Haha, glad you enjoyed it

But yeah it was definitely
Spoiler:
Loki
and it is kinda wonky with the power levels being all over the place. I know the MCU generally is much lower on the power scale compared to the comics and kind of needs to be, but I feel like this What If more or less just was a way of saying
Spoiler:
What if new Avengers team? But without actually replacing anyone and just killing them off
.
   
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 MDSW wrote:
OK, but kind of frustrating where hero powers are conveniently 'buffed' or 'nerfed' depending on the required plotline...



... you don't read comic books do you?

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This was fun. Fairly satisfying little murder mystery and it was fun highlighting some iconic scenes from the early days. Probably about on par with Carter for me, though sheer variety of characters had me feeling less repetition than I did with the first one.
   
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BrianDavion wrote:
 MDSW wrote:
OK, but kind of frustrating where hero powers are conveniently 'buffed' or 'nerfed' depending on the required plotline...



... you don't read comic books do you?


Well said!! LOL

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…well damn.

 
   
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Didn’t quite enjoy this weeks What If.

Might need a second watch.

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Hm. Yeah. I don’t know that I can say I “enjoyed” it, but I was still entertained by it. I don’t think this particular one is meant to Be enjoyed.

 
   
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Versteckt in den Schatten deines Geistes.

Dark with a capital 'D'.

Man. I was really worried about this show when the first episode was basically "What if these two people swapped places but basically everything played out as it did the first time, just with them swapped!". Thought we were going to get replays of the various MCU films with minor variations that didn't lead to all that much overall difference.

Thankfully, the 2nd and 3rd episodes showed me that I was wrong there, but this 4th one showed that I was really wrong. Holy crap...

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Very dark. Don't know that I needed the time-travel self-torture porn, but it was... interesting.

Didn't much care for the 'split'- I think it rather muddled the point the story was trying to make.

Similarly, I loved him sensing the Watcher halfway through, but hated the open conversation at the end. The first was an interesting side-effect of what he was doing, but the latter was just a heavy handed moral anvil being dropped.

The effects were really cool, though. The absorption effects and the protective runes peeling off him were really nice touches of animation.

So... the end.
Spoiler:
Did he effectively become an infinity stone (a frozen singularity of unimaginable power, ie, his universe basically collapsed into that shell around him, plus all the power he absorbed from various beings) that will turn up in another universe?

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Leicester

Possibly?

That's got to be in the running for the darkest thing in the MCU?

I think it also raises two interesting points; 1) the Watcher(s) can be seen / interacted with, which raises some interesting possibilities in phase 4, 2) the initial time travel montage must have been similar to what he went through in Infinity War, which means exploring those 14-million odd possibilities must have been absolute hell...

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We see the Watchers being interacted with by Stan Lee in GotG 2


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Was that Shuma Gorath?


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 Lance845 wrote:
We see the Watchers being interacted with by Stan Lee in GotG 2


Automatically Appended Next Post:
Was that Shuma Gorath?




Possibly. We’ve seen it in half the episodes of What If so far though, so I’m curious how many more times and how important it may yet be going forward.

 
   
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Yeah, but Stan Lee was some kind of time / dimension sliding immortal quirk in the MCU, so not exactly a normal character.

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There is a rumor from a long time ago (and now possibly backed by some other stuff) that Shuma Gorath is the villain in Dr. Strange 2. And now that it is chasing America Chavez through the multiverse (Her casting I think was confirmed. She is a multiversal character in the comics. Another young avenger/champion.)


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Voss wrote:
So... the end.
Spoiler:
Did he effectively become an infinity stone (a frozen singularity of unimaginable power, ie, his universe basically collapsed into that shell around him, plus all the power he absorbed from various beings) that will turn up in another universe?
I thought that would end up being the final twist actually, like we'd zoom out and it would be at the centre of the standard MCU's Eye of Agamotto.

Not to be sadly.

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 Lance845 wrote:
There is a rumor from a long time ago (and now possibly backed by some other stuff) that Shuma Gorath is the villain in Dr. Strange 2. And now that it is chasing America Chavez through the multiverse (Her casting I think was confirmed. She is a multiversal character in the comics. Another young avenger/champion.)


As per her latest self titled series, she’s actually not multiversal in origin. I can’t recall her doing Champions off the top of my head either, but she did do West Coast Avengers which was a fun team. Lately in the comics Shuma has been a key feature of Savage Avengers, and he’s not the bad guy!

 
   
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Someone with more knowledge of this clarify:

Shuma Gorath and Cthon.

These sound like things that are straight outta Compton Lovecraft.

Can Marvel really use these things in a big movie? I mean, wouldn't using one of these things be akin to a studio making a movie about a guy who transforms into a green-ish monster called "The Halk" and trying to pretend that it's not just Hulk with a slightly different name?

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Lovecraft is public domain and the mythos has been a shared contribution.

 
   
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Copyright on Lovecraft stuff is a tangled thing indeed, and not helped by the goalposts for amount of time copyrights stand being moved a goodly number of times, but if Warcraft can have C'Thun and Yogg-Saron (and the other old gods) I suspect Marvel can do likewise

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I believe numerous voice actors said the Dr. Strange episode was by far their favorite, due to the immense emotional connections/conflicts and such. Seeing the full version does slam a pretty dark side that you may not get only reading the script.

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I look forward to when The Watcher inevitably stops just watching and intervenes for a yet larger crisis.

 
   
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I will say, my one big disappointment with the episode was that Dormammu didn't come further into play. When we get the iconic "I've come to bargain" I was really hoping for a devil's deal from that point further.

Part of me also kind of wanted this to be the origin of Dormammu and the Dark Dimension, seeing as they're played by the same actor already.
   
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 LunarSol wrote:
I will say, my one big disappointment with the episode was that Dormammu didn't come further into play. When we get the iconic "I've come to bargain" I was really hoping for a devil's deal from that point further.


That was almost certainly intentional, since that _is_ the plot of Dr. Strange 1. (Just with... Whoever the Villain, and his never-seen wife. He made a deal with big D to end death by merging everyone with the Dark Dimension (or so he seems to believe)).
If they went that route it would've ended up another role swap.

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Earlier this week I watched Bound for Greatness, then last night the latest episode of What If?...I think I met my bleakness quota for the month.
   
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Voss wrote:
 LunarSol wrote:
I will say, my one big disappointment with the episode was that Dormammu didn't come further into play. When we get the iconic "I've come to bargain" I was really hoping for a devil's deal from that point further.


That was almost certainly intentional, since that _is_ the plot of Dr. Strange 1. (Just with... Whoever the Villain, and his never-seen wife. He made a deal with big D to end death by merging everyone with the Dark Dimension (or so he seems to believe)).
If they went that route it would've ended up another role swap.


I literally forgot he had a motive.
   
 
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