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 LunarSol wrote:
Part of me also kind of wanted this to be the origin of Dormammu and the Dark Dimension, seeing as they're played by the same actor already.
I thought that this story would either be the origin of Dormammu, or the creation of an Infinity Stone.

It was neither, weirdly.

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 LunarSol wrote:
Voss wrote:
 LunarSol wrote:
I will say, my one big disappointment with the episode was that Dormammu didn't come further into play. When we get the iconic "I've come to bargain" I was really hoping for a devil's deal from that point further.


That was almost certainly intentional, since that _is_ the plot of Dr. Strange 1. (Just with... Whoever the Villain, and his never-seen wife. He made a deal with big D to end death by merging everyone with the Dark Dimension (or so he seems to believe)).
If they went that route it would've ended up another role swap.


I literally forgot he had a motive.


Yeah... that's not surprising. A lot of the marvel films have a problem with a forgettable (or functionally non-existent) antagonist. Strange is in definite competition as one of the worst.
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Voss wrote:
Very dark. Don't know that I needed the time-travel self-torture porn, but it was... interesting.

Didn't much care for the 'split'- I think it rather muddled the point the story was trying to make.

Similarly, I loved him sensing the Watcher halfway through, but hated the open conversation at the end. The first was an interesting side-effect of what he was doing, but the latter was just a heavy handed moral anvil being dropped.

The effects were really cool, though. The absorption effects and the protective runes peeling off him were really nice touches of animation.

So... the end.
Spoiler:
Did he effectively become an infinity stone (a frozen singularity of unimaginable power, ie, his universe basically collapsed into that shell around him, plus all the power he absorbed from various beings) that will turn up in another universe?


the heavy handedness I see as more being a reaction to how thick some people are. I mean you still see people absolutely convinced "Thanos had a point and his mass genocide of the universe was a genuine solution!"

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I’ll be curious to see how this Strange reacts to The Watcher coming to recruit him for help in the future when the greater threat emerges.

 
   
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 AduroT wrote:
I’ll be curious to see how this Strange reacts to The Watcher coming to recruit him for help in the future when the greater threat emerges.


??
Spoiler:
He doesn't. There won't be a 'greater threat'. That Strange collapsed/destroyed/wiped out his entire universe.

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Voss wrote:
 AduroT wrote:
I’ll be curious to see how this Strange reacts to The Watcher coming to recruit him for help in the future when the greater threat emerges.


??
Spoiler:
He doesn't. There won't be a 'greater threat'. That Strange collapsed/destroyed/wiped out his entire universe.


The entire universe except for himself. See here’s the thing with The Watcher/s. Having a character who only watches and never interferes is irrelevant as they have nothing to offer the story. Pretty much every time you see The Watcher, it’s about how he never interferes, except this crisis is so big he has to make an exception. Right now we’re in the character introduction stage. They’re going thru and showing us different characters from different worlds. We get a glimpse of The Watcher being tempted to interfere, musing that he Could warn Strange, he just doesn’t think it’ll make a difference. So after we get to see X number of new characters, well get to see a true Villain rise, one who threatens not just their universe since we’ve seen The Watcher will let a single universe wipe itself out, but a villain who threatens All universes. Then The Watcher will go man, that is like super bad, I can’t just watch All universes get wiped out, but I also can’t directly interfere myself, what if I just find a bunch of cool hero people I’ve been watching and warn them this is coming and get them together to stop it. Queue super season finale epic battle royale.


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Sod it. I’m gonna go see Shang Chi today. In the cinema.

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 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Sod it. I’m gonna go see Shang Chi today. In the cinema.


Don’t you Dare put movie spoilers in the tv thread! Comic shop I work at is reserving a theater for the employees to all go next Sunday.

 
   
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It’s very good. Stay to the very end.

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 AduroT wrote:
Voss wrote:
 AduroT wrote:
I’ll be curious to see how this Strange reacts to The Watcher coming to recruit him for help in the future when the greater threat emerges.


??
Spoiler:
He doesn't. There won't be a 'greater threat'. That Strange collapsed/destroyed/wiped out his entire universe.


The entire universe except for himself. See here’s the thing with The Watcher/s. Having a character who only watches and never interferes is irrelevant as they have nothing to offer the story.


Correct. The Watcher is a PoV character/narrative device.

They're explicitly there for
a) Here is an unbiased, dispassionate observer/narrator with no reason to lie to you
and
b) Here is how we know about the parts of the story no one was there for. (because the Watcher watches)

Only watching and not interfering is _exactly_ what the character has to offer. Its a bit of a silly gimmick, but so is your theoretical all-universes-destroying villain. Not least because its been done (repeatedly) and generally isn't a big deal. The heroes generally don't need some moon guy to come tell them about the sledgehammer coming their way.

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Oooh. The Zombies one is up this week. Been looking forward to that.

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What If? Zombies

Oooooooooooooooh! I really, really enjoyed that one. Especially the last scene.

Though if you didn’t enjoy the comic original, this probably won’t challenge you much.

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So we’re up to a Carter Captain, a T’Challa Starlord, an Avengerless Nick Fury, a Morally Ambiguous Doctor Strange, and a Zombie Apocalypse Survivor Spider-Man. Shaping up to be a good, well rounded team for that eventual team up.

 
   
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I do wonder why they did not spend a fraction of time to show what happened a bit more in T'Challa's absence in Wakanda - Is the father still the BP? Hasn't someone else taken up the mantle and what direction did he/she lead them?

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Well, this episode didn’t exactly have a conclusion…

Perhaps we’ll get more in Season 2?

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Zombies!

Comedy!

After last week's... less than light hearted episode, this was a fun change of tone. Revel in the daftness.
   
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 MDSW wrote:
I do wonder why they did not spend a fraction of time to show what happened a bit more in T'Challa's absence in Wakanda - Is the father still the BP? Hasn't someone else taken up the mantle and what direction did he/she lead them?


Father should be dead. This would have been post Civil War when he bit it and T’Challa took over. Maybe some sort of interim rule but they were still searching for him since he went missing in the Avenger’s stand when he was nabbed up.

 
   
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 AduroT wrote:
 MDSW wrote:
I do wonder why they did not spend a fraction of time to show what happened a bit more in T'Challa's absence in Wakanda - Is the father still the BP? Hasn't someone else taken up the mantle and what direction did he/she lead them?


Father should be dead. This would have been post Civil War when he bit it and T’Challa took over. Maybe some sort of interim rule but they were still searching for him since he went missing in the Avenger’s stand when he was nabbed up.


Because he was taken as a child Wakanda did less diplomatic efforts and the diplomats were not in the building that got Cross Boned. Which Means T'chaka never went to the U.N. and Zemo never bombed him.


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 Lance845 wrote:
 AduroT wrote:
 MDSW wrote:
I do wonder why they did not spend a fraction of time to show what happened a bit more in T'Challa's absence in Wakanda - Is the father still the BP? Hasn't someone else taken up the mantle and what direction did he/she lead them?


Father should be dead. This would have been post Civil War when he bit it and T’Challa took over. Maybe some sort of interim rule but they were still searching for him since he went missing in the Avenger’s stand when he was nabbed up.


Because he was taken as a child Wakanda did less diplomatic efforts and the diplomats were not in the building that got Cross Boned. Which Means T'chaka never went to the U.N. and Zemo never bombed him.


Oh you meant the second one, I was thinking of this week’s.

 
   
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 Graphite wrote:
Zombies!

Comedy!

After last week's... less than light hearted episode, this was a fun change of tone. Revel in the daftness.


I love how Peter's running around being all "DOES NOBODY WATCH HORROR MOVIES!?"

I also like that he's dismissed initally as a dumb kid and by the end everyone realizes "listen to this guy he knows what he's talking about"

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It was fine. No fault of the short itself, but I'm becoming increasingly aware that after reading World War Z I am personally completely sated on the subject of zombies. I'm just kind of.... yup, thems a zombie story.
   
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 LunarSol wrote:
It was fine. No fault of the short itself, but I'm becoming increasingly aware that after reading World War Z I am personally completely sated on the subject of zombies. I'm just kind of.... yup, thems a zombie story.


I like that Marvel has tried to make some of their movies variations on classic tropes, but with super heroes, so while I'm not big on zombie stuff, I kind of liked that they tackled the zombie trope, but with super heroes.
   
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Eh. The problem with zombies is they're so innately bumbling and ineffective (best defense: walk fast and don't be stupid) that zombie movies and games have basically resorted to giving them superpowers anyway (super fast zombies, fire zombies, plague zombies, exploding zombies, etc, etc) in addition to saddling protagonists with a plethora of Idiot Balls to make the movies/games work at all.

So zombies + supers really isn't that interesting at this point. Its just tired, and way past its prime.

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I do have to say... Hank Pym has really taken it in the shorts in this series. What else is he gonna be responsible for? Why poor Hank Pym???

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Probably for hitting his wife.



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Being a butt monkey has also long been part of his character at this point, since long before wife beating stopped being acceptable even for comic book nerds

So why is it Hank Pym's fault?

Because he's Hank Pym and everything is somehow his fault. That's it. That's the character. His more epic moments stand out in memory largely because the character is a walking gag, so when he gets to actually shine people usually remember it.

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I mean even in the comics he's responsible for Ultron right? So I'm not surprised he's getting the short end of the stick for these What If's.

Overall, the What If's are okay at best for me...I feel like they might have more focus and better stories in their second season once they've found more narrative footing. Though I did like that they indirectly confirmed that the whole Ant-Man Thanos butt thing is possible lol.
   
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I think most of them are honestly too short to really explore their premises. They have to wrap stuff up in the time of a typical TV slot so they rush through things, skip over things that could have been explored, and don't get to reach their full potential.

   
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 LordofHats wrote:
I think most of them are honestly too short to really explore their premises. They have to wrap stuff up in the time of a typical TV slot so they rush through things, skip over things that could have been explored, and don't get to reach their full potential.


I agree but thats ALSO how the What If comic goes. So for those of us familiar with the book thats kind of a little meta thing that gives me a little bit of enjoyment. If they made a direct show adaptation of the comic this is EXACTLY what it would be. Would the show be better if they made 2 hour long episodes that fully explored things? Maybe? Probably? But what it is is fun little peeks into scenarios. And in that respect I enjoy it for what it is.


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