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You earned it my friend!
If you do that woodgrain again, would you mind posting some Step by step shots please?
"dave you are the definition of old school..." -Viktor Von Domm My P&M Blog : It's great how just adding a little iconography, and rivets of course, can make something look distinctly 40K-adamsouza
"Ah yes, the sound of riveting.....Swear word after swear word and the clinking of thrown tools" "Nope. It sucks do it again..."- mxwllmdr
"It puts together more terrain, or else it gets the hose again...-dangledorf2.0
"This is the Imperium, there is no peace, there are only rivets" -Vitruvian XVII
"I think rivets are the perfect solution to almost every problem"- Rawson
More buildings for the Building God! -Shasolenzabi
2012/07/21 18:20:56
Subject: Re:Scarper's Scavenging Necro / Post-apoc Gangs: Sidekick painted and some gothic photos 21/7
as i said before.. i would love to live in a place that looked like that!
[ "Don't worry, Vik! You have all of your internet friends to keep you company! And, as everyone knows, internet friends are at least one step above imaginary friends "-Rawson
"Does an Ork shiiiit green?" "...Rogue! -you rock!" "Damn you too Rogue!""[TTFN]... That means tittyfething right?""Yep, that's me, a two-dollar whore"-Dsteingass
"... but if we all fail together we can make it look like we´ve won actually.." "...to all killers out there...: my face will hit your fist so hard it´s gonna bleed...your fist that is...""lol....OMG... you are a serial""he knows no pain...nor fear^^ he is a riveteer""yep... some of the dakka chaps here sure made the joints of my jaw quite loose...""er... emailsex... now that at least sounds like the perfect safer sex... but i like mine a bit more...wet""do you know what they call a quarter pounder of a buckte full of rivets in france?" "No...what?" "Rivitz royal"-Viktor von Domm
" I expected to hear gak like that from RW, not you Vik... for shame Sir, for shame"-AnUnearthlyChilde
"We are Vik's private collection of muses for the monkey on his back.....""you, guys are worse than my children......"-mxwllmdr
"Singling one out as odd in a =][_= thread is like going into an asylum, pointing at someone at random and saying "that person's insane""-Shrike
2012/07/21 19:42:54
Subject: Re:Scarper's Scavenging Necro / Post-apoc Gangs: Sidekick painted and some gothic photos 21/7
Been away/moving for a bit and the internet man came today but no bed yet
Glad you liked the party poppers and cheese
Good updates while I've been away. Nice necro bulkheads, have you considered a wash of Dev Mud (or whatever it is called now) to tone the red down if you think it is a little bright? The salt effect really looks good and realistic
Sidekick looks good I like the brown of his clothing and the wood too.
Your views are impressive.
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2012/07/21 22:30:33
Subject: Scarper's Scavenging Necro / Post-apoc Gangs: Sidekick painted and some gothic photos 21/7
@Dave - I'd be happy to! It's really not that complicated, so I'll see if I can take a few shots Glad you like it!
@RW - It's a pretty awesome city Dunno if all my showing off gave it away, but I'm pretty proud of it!
@Peter - Glad to see you're getting the important stuff sorted first Moving house is a serious chore - hope you get everything sorted soon and all the best in the new place! Cheers for the kind words too, I will have to try out the dev mud to dull it down a little. My bottle is nearly empty now, not looking forward to the new GW ones...
@Vik - It's the fringe festival now - August is basically a huge sponsored event! Shame I'm working for most of it
Today's update is Ralston (almost) done. I'm out of matte varnish, so I can't do any gloss or blood effects until I get more, and can't attach him to the base yet either, but he's most of the way there now. His right eye got obliterated a bit by the photo, but honestly is okay in real life. Not sure what happened! Hope you like anyway.
Also! I'm after some Krylon Matte Spray, but the only store I know that stocks it has shut down, and it doesn't seem to exist anywhere else in the UK D: If any of you lot over the pond wouldn't mind buying me a few cans and mailing it (I will happily reimburse via PayPal for the cost and the postage!), I'd really, really appreciate it... I'd even maybe do some kind of small commissiony thing in gratitude? Plus we would be official best friends forever, which is the most valuable reward of all. Please PM me if you can!
Would love any comments or criticism, and thanks again for all the interest!
I'd love to, but they won't let us ship aerosol cans.
"dave you are the definition of old school..." -Viktor Von Domm My P&M Blog : It's great how just adding a little iconography, and rivets of course, can make something look distinctly 40K-adamsouza
"Ah yes, the sound of riveting.....Swear word after swear word and the clinking of thrown tools" "Nope. It sucks do it again..."- mxwllmdr
"It puts together more terrain, or else it gets the hose again...-dangledorf2.0
"This is the Imperium, there is no peace, there are only rivets" -Vitruvian XVII
"I think rivets are the perfect solution to almost every problem"- Rawson
More buildings for the Building God! -Shasolenzabi
whoa... nice one... and again more brigher ... but you compensated that with lots of gore^^... very good looking...
what i like the best is the overall knotted around his waist... that is a very clever and unique idea! with that jacket of his he reminds me a bit of logan... the two yellow stripes seem a bit of an hommage to him... maybe i am just seeing things tho...
and this Krylon Matte Spray ...is that your ideal primer? never run across this here...
Viktor von Domm wrote:whoa... nice one... and again more brigher ... but you compensated that with lots of gore^^... very good looking...
what i like the best is the overall knotted around his waist... that is a very clever and unique idea! with that jacket of his he reminds me a bit of logan... the two yellow stripes seem a bit of an hommage to him... maybe i am just seeing things tho...
and this Krylon Matte Spray ...is that your ideal primer? never run across this here...
Dam you Vik beat me to both of those the jacket tied around the waist, a good way of blending that dam jacket skirt on those cadian legs.
The jacket is so Logan's I was like I am sure I know it from some where and then it clicked, I was rushing down to post and then saw smart ass Vik had beat me to both.
Anyway once again great work, nice to see some one proud about their city for a change
That guy is great, I like his astonished expression which is exaggerated by the way he has moved his sunglasses out of the way to get a closer look, what is it he is inspecting? The way you have converted the cadian skirt to look like he has tied up his coveralls is great.
The Devlan mud replacement (Agrax Earthshade) is not really a direct replacement I found, it's much lighter. I've heard that The Army Painter Warpaints Strong Tone Ink is almost an exact match so I've ordered a bottle of that to test.
I am pretty sure it is illegal to post aerosols internationally as they might explode. However it is on eBay with international postage so maybe just don't tell them that.
I like the newest guy, although I dont know if its just the picture, but I think his face could use a little shading
[ "Don't worry, Vik! You have all of your internet friends to keep you company! And, as everyone knows, internet friends are at least one step above imaginary friends "-Rawson
"Does an Ork shiiiit green?" "...Rogue! -you rock!" "Damn you too Rogue!""[TTFN]... That means tittyfething right?""Yep, that's me, a two-dollar whore"-Dsteingass
"... but if we all fail together we can make it look like we´ve won actually.." "...to all killers out there...: my face will hit your fist so hard it´s gonna bleed...your fist that is...""lol....OMG... you are a serial""he knows no pain...nor fear^^ he is a riveteer""yep... some of the dakka chaps here sure made the joints of my jaw quite loose...""er... emailsex... now that at least sounds like the perfect safer sex... but i like mine a bit more...wet""do you know what they call a quarter pounder of a buckte full of rivets in france?" "No...what?" "Rivitz royal"-Viktor von Domm
" I expected to hear gak like that from RW, not you Vik... for shame Sir, for shame"-AnUnearthlyChilde
"We are Vik's private collection of muses for the monkey on his back.....""you, guys are worse than my children......"-mxwllmdr
"Singling one out as odd in a =][_= thread is like going into an asylum, pointing at someone at random and saying "that person's insane""-Shrike
"dave you are the definition of old school..." -Viktor Von Domm My P&M Blog : It's great how just adding a little iconography, and rivets of course, can make something look distinctly 40K-adamsouza
"Ah yes, the sound of riveting.....Swear word after swear word and the clinking of thrown tools" "Nope. It sucks do it again..."- mxwllmdr
"It puts together more terrain, or else it gets the hose again...-dangledorf2.0
"This is the Imperium, there is no peace, there are only rivets" -Vitruvian XVII
"I think rivets are the perfect solution to almost every problem"- Rawson
More buildings for the Building God! -Shasolenzabi
@Dave - Ahh, that might be why it's so hard to find! Thanks anyway, I appreciate it!
@Vik - It is indeed Logan's jacket! Not an intentional homage, but a particularly cool jacket that came up while I was doing some reference searching. Didn't even realise it was wolverine until I was halfway through painting! Krylon Matte is a dullspray matte varnish. I don't think it's anything particularly special, but it has worked well for me, and I've had bad experience with other brands in the past. Nothing like ruining hours upon hours of work with a gak rattlecan... Thanks for the kind words again - I seem to be in a bit of a brighter phase in my painting atm
@LDD - Hahaha, great minds think alike and all that I guess Glad you enjoy the knotted jumpsuit - it was really just a getaround to allow me to use more colours and interesting clothing after I cornered myself with the mandatory jumpsuits thing. Thanks a lot for the compliments, and the link too. I ordered the last can one of those stockists was carrying, and it's currently winging its way across the pond!
@Bruticus - Thanks Bruticus! It's actually an envelope: can't see to well in the shot, but I shadowed the area under the flap and highlighted the part above. It's quite a find, and the QA getting their hands on this particular missive is the start of a campaign I'm writing.
I was so surprised they changed their line of washes - GW paints have a rather patchy reputation, but their washes are pretty much universally recognised as stellar. Admittedly I haven't tried any of the new ones yet and for all I know they could be ace too, but it just seems like an 'if it ain't broke' kind of moment... Cheers for the tips on Earthshade though - I was considering picking up a pot, and may have to think again now.
@Rogue - You could be right, he is a little pale. I'm trying to get a mix of skin colours in the gang, but he could probably do with some more shadowing.
@Remi - Much appreciated, man! And with all your fantastic fluff and sculpting I'm feeling a little jealous myself, so we can just call it even
@Peter - I bought in a fair few colours (unknowingly!) just before the switchover, so it may be a while before I try them out. Looking forward to it though - change isn't always bad!
Just a bit of an "I'm still alive!" post. I'm playing around with a few Pegasus platformer kits off eBay, as well as experimenting with plaster with a few Hirst Arts kits. Nothing too exciting to show yet, I'm afraid! Shadowing week has been a bit of a killer and I'm working 12 and a half hour night shifts from Tuesday in a hospital about an hour from my house, so progress might still be a little slow, but I'll get some pics up as soon as I can. Need to pull an all nighter tomorrow to get used to sleeping during the day, so maybe a few things then!
In the mean time, I thought I'd explain a little about the board I'm working on now that I have a little more space. It's based off The Creek, a dome I described in a fluff piece a few months back:
Spoiler:
Irradiated dust and surface dirt howled with the wind through the rent in the dome roof, pooling and swirling in vast dunes around the rusted metalwork of the Creek. The single spar of cold sunlight seemed alien here, throwing long shadows from ancient archways and spotlighting the thick powder that hovered in the air. It was the first time the dome had been exposed to the surface for probably hundreds of years, but Leeson’s Run had brought a lot of the structure down with it as it collapsed. They’d been lucky not to be buried alive. The sound and fury of Caitiff’s surface forcing itself upon the dome made the fragility of the place more palpable - already the fearsome winds were making their mark on the virgin buildings of the Creek. It would not be long before the antique structures were just more sand-eroded ruins, walls carved smooth and razor thin. Crow sighed.
Even through the harsh filter of her goggles and the harsher filter of nearly half a millennium, the beauty the Creek had once possessed was unmistakeable. Hundreds of years ago it would have been an exclusive suburb, ornate and ornamental, a fashionable address for the upper echelons of pre-Imperial society. Permeated throughout with placid canalways, veins running from what was now the Grey Sea, the water proved a genteel and anachronistic means of transport – a serf at the helm, a nobleman reclining. The waterways were once lined with self-commissioned statues of great statesmen, their names now long-forgotten. If you searched hard enough, fragments of these illustrious men could still be found in the detritus that carpeted their former homes. Jutting spars of marble, pockmarked and streaked with runoff, are now the only hints of the dome’s former grandeur: it’s noble purpose did not last. As the hive grew, so too did the expectations of its richer denizens. Was it not right for the upper classes to be on top of the pile, both figuratively and literally?
The Creek had fallen from fashion as one by one its residents moved up in the world. Their homes, though, found new owners. A hive is a living thing – the flow of people ebbs and changes, but an empty chamber will soon be filled. The ready access to a renewing supply of water was not ignored - the newly vacated Creek quickly developed into a hub of industry, with pipelines, walkways and twisted metal production lines snaking round and through the existing buildings. Manufactorums need vast resources and produce plentiful waste, and the beauty of the dome did not stand long against these twin assaults: Lavish but crumbling mansions were gutted and converted to worker’s hab blocks and pumping stations, ornamental architecture demolished to make space for larger vehicles. The canals became putrid lakes of brackish water, filled with both the human waste of the workers and the industrial run-off of the factories. Fumes filled the Creek, rising through cracks like steam from a sewer to taint the domes above. But even this period could not last. With the Skew’s inexorable growth, hivequakes, floods and tsunamis became more and more frequent, interrupting productivity in the lower levels. Such environmental disasters had been common for years, of course – a few thousand workers killed here and there did little to dent production. But these larger events threatened the buildings themselves, and with the infrastructure of manufacture endangered, the industrialists moved on.
By the time Easthollow fell, the Creek was nothing but a den of cutthroats, occupied only by gangbangers; criminals and mutants unable to live in civilised society. But for the hundreds of millions of refugees seeking shelter in the hives from the toxic surface, little option remained. Living conditions were squalid and overcrowded in the Spire even before the Easthollow disaster, with rival factions warring over the most basic spaces to live. Where else but the largely abandoned underhive was there for the new arrivals to call their own? Compared with the alternative, even a life among the outcasts did not seem such a daunting prospect. Shanties and shacks built from corrugated metal and scavenged wood sprang up in their hundreds, their ramshackle facades adding further incongruence to the opulence and industry of the Creek. When conflict over territory escalated, even the waterways were utilised, with crookedly inter-connected archipelagos floating tentatively in the waste. A new economy of scavenged and stolen goods emerged, and for a few months, the Creek became, once again, a home to hundreds.
The Creek today was abandoned. In the months that followed the Easthollow disaster, the air on the surface cleared – It would never be safe again, and even now Crow was sure they were dying a little with each breath they took, but it was, at least, breathable once again. Over time, people began to venture back into Skew State, forming new communities, and reconnecting with those who had found shelter in the open. The overcrowding of the hive eased off, to a degree. But unknown to those that stayed, the air was filtered by moving water on the surface, and it became clearer at the exact rate that the ocean took up its poisons. The floating citizens of the Creek, those who had built their own shelter even on the turbulent effluent that made up what was once the canalways, were the first to fall sick. Those that stayed were not far behind them. From the day the first refugee died from contact with the tainted water, it was less than a month before, for the first time in its history, the dome stood empty.
It was in this historical water, surrounded in equal parts by riches and poverty, that Riff had drowned.
I've got some pretty ambitious ideas for multiple sections on different levels of insulation foam (concrete), with platforms and makeshift walkways between different floors of the buildings on different levels, with dried canals between them. Currently I'm working on suspended platforms and ruined archipelagos in the canal section. I'm going for some corroded, algae strewn pillars, with rusty metalwork and signs of human habitation, like a floating, industrial shanty town. Hard to describe, but hopefully pics will show more soon! Better water quality than I'll be using, obviously, but I'm hoping to have this kind of weathering and growth on the pillars:
Though it will be metal instead of wood.
Apologies if this isn't the most clear, just wanted to get some ideas down!
I mentioned this to Neil but there is a whole set of rules for boats in Necromunda on Anthony Case's site - if you have a working canal network instead of dried up ones you could have a boat or two. I've always liked the idea of using vehicles in Necromunda, AC has basically just adapted the Ash Waste rules (which are themselves just adapted Gorkamorka rules). I even bought a couple of motorbikes for my Goliaths although they got shelved. Not sure what pitslaves would drive...
By the way the new GW washes are all great as far as I have seen, but Agrax is significantly lighter. It still has it's uses.
omg scarp.. I' LOVE to see you make a table, excited to see these models in their natural habitat!
[ "Don't worry, Vik! You have all of your internet friends to keep you company! And, as everyone knows, internet friends are at least one step above imaginary friends "-Rawson
"Does an Ork shiiiit green?" "...Rogue! -you rock!" "Damn you too Rogue!""[TTFN]... That means tittyfething right?""Yep, that's me, a two-dollar whore"-Dsteingass
"... but if we all fail together we can make it look like we´ve won actually.." "...to all killers out there...: my face will hit your fist so hard it´s gonna bleed...your fist that is...""lol....OMG... you are a serial""he knows no pain...nor fear^^ he is a riveteer""yep... some of the dakka chaps here sure made the joints of my jaw quite loose...""er... emailsex... now that at least sounds like the perfect safer sex... but i like mine a bit more...wet""do you know what they call a quarter pounder of a buckte full of rivets in france?" "No...what?" "Rivitz royal"-Viktor von Domm
" I expected to hear gak like that from RW, not you Vik... for shame Sir, for shame"-AnUnearthlyChilde
"We are Vik's private collection of muses for the monkey on his back.....""you, guys are worse than my children......"-mxwllmdr
"Singling one out as odd in a =][_= thread is like going into an asylum, pointing at someone at random and saying "that person's insane""-Shrike
Id say layers of Ca glue with medium coarse sand to make the "encrustations".
if you DID decide to have he remains of a "wood" piling anywhere Id recommend chunks of dowel that you beat up a bit with a hammer (to fray the tops,) and a rough rock (like the "broken" face of a lump of granite) thumping the sides( to add irregularity to the vertical contour) with a finisher of a wire brush (to bring out the inherent grain)
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Yo Scarp!
Actually from Perth, but Edinburgh being the nearest decent town spent a lot of time there - my big brother and a lot of my best mates went there for uni as well. I'll see if I can scare up some contacts and pm you with info. I suppose I've only come to know of you in the last year or so, so it's no surprise I hadn't made the connection - but I'll definitely stop by next April :-)
Gang's looking pimpin as ever, what's Ralston got in his hand?
Run a whole lot of wfrp and other rpg's, play The Woods and Kill Team, gather and look mournfully at imperial guard knowing I'll never finish enough to use them on the tabletop
Reluctant to read much in a hurry I ignored anything you wrote and went straight for the pics and I was like INCREDIBLE water effects!
Then I saw the weathering and I was like: TOP NOTCH!
Then I saw the wood and I was like: It's REAL! Stupid reality, messing with my precious imagination...
Visit my I-munda/Necromunda P&M Blog: Eye for Detail Visit my Infinity P&M Blog: Reckless Abandon Scarper: "That is incredibly detailed...shows an attention to detail that goes beyond anyone you'll fight."
The Good Green: "Ok, That is incredible. Such attention to detail... I'm convinced you would benefit from a straight jacket ;~P Thanks for raising the bar."
PDH: "Yeah Bloody Baiyuan's Bloody eye for detail . Bet he doesn't sig that one"
PDH: "I'm not saying anything that you might sig against me. Made that mistake before!"
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[ "Don't worry, Vik! You have all of your internet friends to keep you company! And, as everyone knows, internet friends are at least one step above imaginary friends "-Rawson
"Does an Ork shiiiit green?" "...Rogue! -you rock!" "Damn you too Rogue!""[TTFN]... That means tittyfething right?""Yep, that's me, a two-dollar whore"-Dsteingass
"... but if we all fail together we can make it look like we´ve won actually.." "...to all killers out there...: my face will hit your fist so hard it´s gonna bleed...your fist that is...""lol....OMG... you are a serial""he knows no pain...nor fear^^ he is a riveteer""yep... some of the dakka chaps here sure made the joints of my jaw quite loose...""er... emailsex... now that at least sounds like the perfect safer sex... but i like mine a bit more...wet""do you know what they call a quarter pounder of a buckte full of rivets in france?" "No...what?" "Rivitz royal"-Viktor von Domm
" I expected to hear gak like that from RW, not you Vik... for shame Sir, for shame"-AnUnearthlyChilde
"We are Vik's private collection of muses for the monkey on his back.....""you, guys are worse than my children......"-mxwllmdr
"Singling one out as odd in a =][_= thread is like going into an asylum, pointing at someone at random and saying "that person's insane""-Shrike
@Bruticus - That is a good tip! I've used one or two of the rules from there before, in particular the vehicles, but I was a little disappointed - you need to spread scenery out a lot more to make them feasible, which puts footsoldiers at a disadvantage. I'd forgotten the boats though - might have to change a few plans.
@Rogue - Cheers, man! Hope you like it when it's done
@Galorn - Thanks a lot for the advice! Love the idea with the dowel and the hammer in particular, sounds like it would come out great, and fun to do too!
@Capn R - I'd really appreciate that, and it would be great to meet in person too! Ralston's holding a letter - it's important in the background for a campaign I'm writing.
@Bjorn - Great to see you back, man! Sorry to disappoint on my fake looking photos though
In other news, I survived my first week of night shifts! Due to a weird rolling rota, I now have my week of annual leave (in week 2!), so here's the first of hopefully a fair few terrain updates over the next few days. I thought I'd show you something simple first - It's a couple of CoD kits I rescued off eBay, completely dissambled, scraped all the wood glue(!?) from and reassembled. Looks like a bit of a waster nest set up in there... Hope you like!
Retractable entrance, bedding, lookout post, a few supplies and even a drinks machine - looks like someone's made themselves a pretty nice den!
Obviously this is very early WiP - lots of rubble and pipework to come on the base. Just wanted to get something up. Most of my other terrain in the pipeline is non-GW, so hopefully something a bit more interesting soon
2012/08/06 02:36:23
Subject: Scarper's Scavenging Necro / Post-apoc Gangs: First bit of terrain 6/8
looking cool so far.. I need to ask though where did you get that awsome bedding? and where did you get the cool drink machine?
[ "Don't worry, Vik! You have all of your internet friends to keep you company! And, as everyone knows, internet friends are at least one step above imaginary friends "-Rawson
"Does an Ork shiiiit green?" "...Rogue! -you rock!" "Damn you too Rogue!""[TTFN]... That means tittyfething right?""Yep, that's me, a two-dollar whore"-Dsteingass
"... but if we all fail together we can make it look like we´ve won actually.." "...to all killers out there...: my face will hit your fist so hard it´s gonna bleed...your fist that is...""lol....OMG... you are a serial""he knows no pain...nor fear^^ he is a riveteer""yep... some of the dakka chaps here sure made the joints of my jaw quite loose...""er... emailsex... now that at least sounds like the perfect safer sex... but i like mine a bit more...wet""do you know what they call a quarter pounder of a buckte full of rivets in france?" "No...what?" "Rivitz royal"-Viktor von Domm
" I expected to hear gak like that from RW, not you Vik... for shame Sir, for shame"-AnUnearthlyChilde
"We are Vik's private collection of muses for the monkey on his back.....""you, guys are worse than my children......"-mxwllmdr
"Singling one out as odd in a =][_= thread is like going into an asylum, pointing at someone at random and saying "that person's insane""-Shrike
2012/08/06 07:31:46
Subject: Re:Scarper's Scavenging Necro / Post-apoc Gangs: First bit of terrain 6/8