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 nels1031 wrote:
Beta rules are out that addresses the Katophrane Relics deck thats pretty dominant.

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2018/05/15/may-14th-warhammer-underworlds-beta-rules-announcedgw-homepage-post-2/

I think it's a good fix, but could also have seen them just making the 4-glory action a once-per-round effect.

The way they've done it makes it harder to get the other benefits of the relics, but the glory effect was the only problematic one...

The amount of Glory the the Relic rewards was too high and too easy, but I think the current fix just removes the Relics from consideration. It Is the fix they can do without having to change the card text though.

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2018/05/20/20th-may-pre-order-preview-inspire-your-warband/

Apparently you can buy the model separatedly now, GW try to shut down ebay seller? Also they might be selling card pack in the future too?

Arent they already push fit?

 AduroT wrote:
Arent they already push fit?

They are, but they only get sold with the cards.

I think they're just making it clear from the outset that they're pushfit models.

It just feels like they’re trying to impress that the models are different.

 AduroT wrote:
It just feels like they’re trying to impress that the models are different.

They are.
They're being sold without the cards.

I guess they do say "push fit" a lot during the preview, but if they didn't you'd hear no end to the complaints about it not being labeled multipart.

That's neat. Glad there's now a way to get the Stormcast characters without the core set, as I've been after them for a while.

I wonder if they'll still be in coloured plastic, or whether they'll be in the regular grey type.

I would be shocked if they're not still coloured plastic. The "Easy to Build" stuff for 40k is all coloured plastic to make it easier to 'just add in' to your army.

This is going to make spending ludicrous money on units of plastic flesh hounds slightly more appealing...

$25USD for the boxes. They're also normal plastic colored rather than colored.

Isn't that only $5 less than the packs with cards? Might as well get the cards!

 RiTides wrote:
Isn't that only $5 less than the packs with cards? Might as well get the cards!

Yeah, it's $5 less--but it's also not the colored plastic.

For some people that might make the decision for them. I've been finding that any of the Easy to Build colored plastic stuff is a pain to prime white, the color bleeds through. Gotta do a black/grey first then hit it with the white spray.

On the other hand, as long as they’re not selling the cards separately, selling the decks online will probably make you back a bit more than the $5 (€2,50!) you’d save on the easy build set...

Still, good to have options - grey plastic is definitely a bonus for those who prefer that!

 Insane Ivan wrote:
On the other hand, as long as they’re not selling the cards separately, selling the decks online will probably make you back a bit more than the $5 (€2,50!) you’d save on the easy build set...

Still, good to have options - grey plastic is definitely a bonus for those who prefer that!

They're both easy builds.

I kinda wish they would sell the cards separately instead of the models

And only 2,50 euro less here. Hardly worth the double packaging and shelf space.

The important bit is that the starter box warbands are now available separately. It is good, because that is currently the only way to get a female Liberator model.

For some reason the card library isn't working for me atm, so does anyone know offhand - is the numbering sequential by type? For example, all the generic power, upgrade, and glory cards, followed by faction-specific ones?

 Kanluwen wrote:

 Insane Ivan wrote:
On the other hand, as long as they’re not selling the cards separately, selling the decks online will probably make you back a bit more than the $5 (€2,50!) you’d save on the easy build set...

Still, good to have options - grey plastic is definitely a bonus for those who prefer that!

They're both easy builds.

Thanks, I was already aware of that, owning most of the warbands. I was just distinguishing the new packaging from the “Shadespire” variant.

 RiTides wrote:
For some reason the card library isn't working for me atm, so does anyone know offhand - is the numbering sequential by type? For example, all the generic power, upgrade, and glory cards, followed by faction-specific ones?

Cards 1 through 232 are faction specific. The order is:
Garrek's Reavers
Steelheart's Champions
Sepulchral Guard
Ironskull's Boyz
Chosen Axes
Spiteclaw's Swarm
Magore's Reavers
Farstriders

The cards types are ordered by objective, ploy, upgrade within each faction (9, 10, 10)

And the universal cards are ordered as such:
233-307 Objectives
308-372 Ploys
373-437 Upgrades

Quick question about this game? Do you think gw will continue support him with new warbands? Is the state of the game well?

Sarevokk wrote:
Quick question about this game? Do you think gw will continue support him with new warbands? Is the state of the game well?

As far as I can see the game is doing well. We have local tournaments regularly in my hometown and a lot of player, and it seems like the grand clashes have been full every time.

GW will continue to support it. They have teased two new cards from future expansions, but haven't said anything more. My guess is we're going to get a new starter box with a new Stormcast warband that features the new chamber from AoS 2nd Edition, as well as a Nighthaunt warband with spooky ghosts. Hopefully we will get some new boards and objectives as well.

 alleus wrote:

Sarevokk wrote:
Quick question about this game? Do you think gw will continue support him with new warbands? Is the state of the game well?

As far as I can see the game is doing well. We have local tournaments regularly in my hometown and a lot of player, and it seems like the grand clashes have been full every time.

GW will continue to support it. They have teased two new cards from future expansions, but haven't said anything more. My guess is we're going to get a new starter box with a new Stormcast warband that features the new chamber from AoS 2nd Edition, as well as a Nighthaunt warband with spooky ghosts. Hopefully we will get some new boards and objectives as well.

They've teased/hinted that we're going to see a new game using Shadespire's mechanics.

The card numbers for Shadespire are complete at this point.

The card number for Shadespire, yes. But the game is called "Warhammer Underworlds", not Shadespire. My guess is that "Shadespire" was just the first edition, for lack of a better word, of Warhammer Underworlds.

So the next edition will probably be something like: "Warhammer Underworlds: Spooky Ghost Town". I don't know much Age of Sigmar lore..

GW showed this image off at Adepticon this year. It is highly likely that there will be a new starter box featuring Stormcast and nighthaunt. The number on the side of the cards also strongly suggests that there will be 10 factions in season 2. The future of Shadespire looks pretty bright at this point.

Also, don't forget this Community article.

Quote:
"Last week we revealed two new Warhammer Underworlds warbands. Once you get these two expansions in your hands, the astute among you will notice that the cards in these sets fill out the numbering in the Warhammer Underworlds: Shadespire library. Hang on – does that mean there are no more cards or warbands? Of course not.

Worry not, brave explorers of the Mirrored City, we have plans to carry on supporting this game for a long time yet, and we dare say the Underworlds still have plenty of horrors to uncover.

 alleus wrote:
The card number for Shadespire, yes. But the game is called "Warhammer Underworlds", not Shadespire. My guess is that "Shadespire" was just the first edition, for lack of a better word, of Warhammer Underworlds.

So the next edition will probably be something like: "Warhammer Underworlds: Spooky Ghost Town". I don't know much Age of Sigmar lore..

I think you're misunderstanding the comment I made. I was expanding upon what you said, not disagreeing/arguing.

They made a big deal in their promo stuff about the product being "Warhammer Underworlds: Shadespire".

Oh, okay. Your comment didn't sound that way at all.
"They've teased/hinted that we're going to see a new game using Shadespire's mechanics."

It's not a new game, just a new installment of Warhammer Underworlds. Anyway, I'm glad we agree :-)

 alleus wrote:
Oh, okay. Your comment didn't sound that way at all.
"They've teased/hinted that we're going to see a new game using Shadespire's mechanics."

It's not a new game, just a new installment of Warhammer Underworlds. Anyway, I'm glad we agree :-)

Oh, this might just be an issue of semantics then.

They've hinted/teased that we're going to see a new game using Shadespire's mechanics--but under the tagline of Warhammer Underworlds. They've been making it clear that Underworlds is the brand or range and Shadespire is just the setting.

Does that clear up what I was trying to convey a bit more?