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 Deadshot wrote:
Frankly, I'm more concerned with the book at the bottom of that list by ADB going for £40! Its definitely not a novel at that price!

Negative, that is exactly what it is.

Black Library is doing something called "Black Library First Editions" now and Talon of Horus is supposed to be the first one.

 Kanluwen wrote:

 Deadshot wrote:
Frankly, I'm more concerned with the book at the bottom of that list by ADB going for £40! Its definitely not a novel at that price!

Negative, that is exactly what it is.

Black Library is doing something called "Black Library First Editions" now and Talon of Horus is supposed to be the first one.

Bull gak! Are you serious?! For £40 I could buy another novel for £10, pay a guy £20 to read it for mw and still have money for another novel!

 Happygrunt wrote:

 pretre wrote:
Codex: Inquisition has about 60 pages of rules in ePub format, btw. Which, when you set to 4UP, means it takes 15 pages of paper (or 8 if you double side them). Certainly easier to carry than an iPad or laptop.

You may want to make a simple guide for people who are wondering how to do that, assuming it is all legal of course.

(Which is me, I totally want to do that, just no idea how. )

Good idea. Pm me so I remember when I'm at work tomorrow.

Also, 20% off on the box is nice!

 Deadshot wrote:
Frankly, I'm more concerned with the book at the bottom of that list by ADB going for £40! Its definitely not a novel at that price!

well it is an omnibus.... still insanely esxpensive.

 Deadshot wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:

 Deadshot wrote:
Frankly, I'm more concerned with the book at the bottom of that list by ADB going for £40! Its definitely not a novel at that price!

Negative, that is exactly what it is.

Black Library is doing something called "Black Library First Editions" now and Talon of Horus is supposed to be the first one.

Bull gak! Are you serious?! For £40 I could buy another novel for £10, pay a guy £20 to read it for mw and still have money for another novel!

Dead serious. It is the first book of a new trilogy that ADB is doing, following Abaddon.

I'll wait until it comes out in a smaller format but ADB rarely disappoints.

BrianDavion wrote:

 Deadshot wrote:
Frankly, I'm more concerned with the book at the bottom of that list by ADB going for £40! Its definitely not a novel at that price!

well it is an omnibus.... still insanely esxpensive.

Nope, first volume, so likely gonna cost £120 to own the set.

 Kanluwen wrote:

 Deadshot wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:

 Deadshot wrote:
Frankly, I'm more concerned with the book at the bottom of that list by ADB going for £40! Its definitely not a novel at that price!

Negative, that is exactly what it is.

Black Library is doing something called "Black Library First Editions" now and Talon of Horus is supposed to be the first one.

Bull gak! Are you serious?! For £40 I could buy another novel for £10, pay a guy £20 to read it for mw and still have money for another novel!

Dead serious. It is the first book of a new trilogy that ADB is doing, following Abaddon.

I'll wait until it comes out in a smaller format but ADB rarely disappoints.

course if they delay it's release we could end up just pirating it first.

 WrentheFaceless wrote:
I doubt GW cares as long as you own a copy of it, and arent trying to sell paper versions.

You are talking about the company that demonstrably cares about people selling things it categorically doesn't own, right?

Still tragic that at the same time we are praising GW for a good(ish) value bundle, and Black Library is the one that keeps raising prices to the absurd. I'll pay hardback prices for new Cain books, or ADB books, but this is 2x Hardback price. Sorry, not happening.

 Sir Arun wrote:
Except the Inquisition codex cannot be bought unless you're the kind of nerd who brings his ipad or laptop to a game.

At my FLGS almost every player has either a tablet or phone with Battlescribe and dataslates on them.

I just bought a 10" tablet for $99 with enough memory to hold every codex and dataslate.

Can also use the stores wifi to connect to the interenet and sties like DakkaDakka and GamesWorkshop between games

 Sir Arun wrote:
Except the Inquisition codex cannot be bought unless you're the kind of nerd who brings his ipad or laptop to a game.

How else do you get your FAQ pdfs or your free FW experimental rules and updates?
Do you not own a smartphone like 90% of people? I'm the only one in my friend circle without an iPad or Samsung Galaxy Tab (I prefer my touchscreen laptop because I used it for work too).
What about the people who have already bought several other iPad or ebook editions? It makes perfect sense for them seeing as they now have all their codexes in the palm of their hand.

 Azreal13 wrote:

 WrentheFaceless wrote:
I doubt GW cares as long as you own a copy of it, and arent trying to sell paper versions.

You are talking about the company that demonstrably cares about people selling things it categorically doesn't own, right?

What now? Whats the story behind this?

 WrentheFaceless wrote:

 Azreal13 wrote:

 WrentheFaceless wrote:
I doubt GW cares as long as you own a copy of it, and arent trying to sell paper versions.

You are talking about the company that demonstrably cares about people selling things it categorically doesn't own, right?

What now? Whats the story behind this?

I'm assuming he's talking about the Chapterhouse Lawsuit and GW claiming IP rights, Copyright, and Trademarks on pretty much anything and everything they've ever printed or made, even though they stole some of that IP from existing properties (The phrase "Space Marines", the definitive helmets of Eldar, the Tau FIre Warrior looks, every shoulder pad and faction symbol, even simple ones like arrows, skulls, crossed lines, etc..)

 adamsouza wrote:

 Sir Arun wrote:
Except the Inquisition codex cannot be bought unless you're the kind of nerd who brings his ipad or laptop to a game.

At my FLGS almost every player has either a tablet or phone with Battlescribe and dataslates on them.

I just bought a 10" tablet for $99 with enough memory to hold every codex and dataslate.

Can also use the stores wifi to connect to the interenet and sties like DakkaDakka and GamesWorkshop between games

The irony that you can buy a $99 tablet to get your gifted copies of the rules from your friends and family (no extra cost, right!) and the core rules alone cost more than the device. Technology versus the rules. Silly.

 adamsouza wrote:

 WrentheFaceless wrote:

 Azreal13 wrote:

 WrentheFaceless wrote:
I doubt GW cares as long as you own a copy of it, and arent trying to sell paper versions.

You are talking about the company that demonstrably cares about people selling things it categorically doesn't own, right?

What now? Whats the story behind this?

I'm assuming he's talking about the Chapterhouse Lawsuit and GW claiming IP rights, Copyright, and Trademarks on pretty much anything and everything they've ever printed or made, even though they stole some of that IP from existing properties (The phrase "Space Marines", the definitive helmets of Eldar, the Tau FIre Warrior looks, every shoulder pad and faction symbol, even simple ones like arrows, skulls, crossed lines, etc..)

Hmm there somewhere I can read about this?

 WrentheFaceless wrote:

Hmm there somewhere I can read about this?

If you don't mind going through 1000+ page threads on Dakka that have a depressing SNR, there are.

 adamsouza wrote:

 WrentheFaceless wrote:

 Azreal13 wrote:

 WrentheFaceless wrote:
I doubt GW cares as long as you own a copy of it, and arent trying to sell paper versions.

You are talking about the company that demonstrably cares about people selling things it categorically doesn't own, right?

What now? Whats the story behind this?

I'm assuming he's talking about the Chapterhouse Lawsuit and GW claiming IP rights, Copyright, and Trademarks on pretty much anything and everything they've ever printed or made, even though they stole some of that IP from existing properties (The phrase "Space Marines", the definitive helmets of Eldar, the Tau FIre Warrior looks, every shoulder pad and faction symbol, even simple ones like arrows, skulls, crossed lines, etc..)

Yep. I was mainly thinking of the Spots The Space Marine thing, as that was unequivocal, whereas there are one or two instances where Chapterhouse were found to have crossed the line, at least before appeal, but the CHS lawsuit works just fine as an example, seeing as the solid majority didn't even make it to court and the majority that did were found in CHS' favour.

GW even claimed "halberd" in that case initially.

And Merret testified in court that GW customers "goober" and "geek out" over releases and that out hobby is "buying GW products".

Yeah, lovely testimony that was.

 agnosto wrote:
And Merret testified in court that GW customers "goober" and "geek out" over releases and that out hobby is "buying GW products".

Yeah, lovely testimony that was.

Surely he can be found guilty of perjury?

 agnosto wrote:
And Merret testified in court that GW customers "goober" and "geek out" over releases and that out hobby is "buying GW products".

Yeah, lovely testimony that was.

Dunno sounds pretty accurate

I buy more than GW products, my hobby is much larger than that.

My hobby's the game. Buying the models is the cruel and painful tax on playing the game. That's why I rarely buy new models, and tend to get them secondhand instead. I'd like to have an epic looking army, but not enough to pay the exuberant prices.

The overpriced books are much harder to get around, as their used price drops just before an update comes out making them irrelevant.

My hobby is less and less GW and more and more other manufacturers. GW is not THE hobby but an increasingly anemic, former heavy-weight of the tabletop gaming hobby. Sad really; it almost makes me wish that I still had stock in the company...naw, not really, I'm glad I sold it all off.

 WrentheFaceless wrote:
$60 bucks for the 10 man strikes
$53.75 For the Dreadknight
$50 for the 5 man Paladin box
$33 for the purifier box (5 man purifiers with 4 heavy weapons O.o)
$74.25 for the Land Raider

$271 USD for all of those separately. If my math is correct you save about $56 bucks.

Not bad

Its a pretty good little starter for GK, which they never had

So it's like buying at full price but with a free codex at the same time?

I plan to go to my favorite game store that takes 20% off your entire purchase if it is $100+, and it includes the used bin.

So I plan to get the GK Codex, and $100 worth of models (discounted 50%, then the additional 20%) for a grand total of $80.

 WrentheFaceless wrote:

 adamsouza wrote:

 WrentheFaceless wrote:

 Azreal13 wrote:

 WrentheFaceless wrote:
I doubt GW cares as long as you own a copy of it, and arent trying to sell paper versions.

You are talking about the company that demonstrably cares about people selling things it categorically doesn't own, right?

What now? Whats the story behind this?

I'm assuming he's talking about the Chapterhouse Lawsuit and GW claiming IP rights, Copyright, and Trademarks on pretty much anything and everything they've ever printed or made, even though they stole some of that IP from existing properties (The phrase "Space Marines", the definitive helmets of Eldar, the Tau FIre Warrior looks, every shoulder pad and faction symbol, even simple ones like arrows, skulls, crossed lines, etc..)

Hmm there somewhere I can read about this?

ChapterHouse Verdict Thread

$400 NZ for the bundle must almost be double the price others are paying, Gw having a laugh.

I actually sold off all my gk around the time of the new tau dex, I had a small feeling that 40k was on a decline. And the amount of stuff that has been released in the last 6 months or so that scream cash grab is beyond counting. Well to me anyway. I was also playing a Draigowing list with Coteaz and henchman, sometimes played Mordrak bomb style armies and I guess all of that is invalidated now anyway.

I do kind of miss the game, but I got to a point where I was getting more angry than enjoying it. However I would love to hear of those that are sticking with gk and if its still as fun as they were in 5th/6th

If I recall, having Codex: Inquisition allies doesn't take up an ally spot, and you can actually have a second, *official* allied detachment, right? So... They were removed from the book because it's redundant. No new unit releases, that's fine with me considering this particular army... Still, they could've updated some Assassin or Inquisitorial models.

Oh no... Does this mean that the Inquisition as represented on the tabletop is now in the same state as Sisters of Battle? They're never getting new models, a real book, or any attention ever again!

 Quarterdime wrote:
If I recall, having Codex: Inquisition allies doesn't take up an ally spot, and you can actually have a second, *official* allied detachment, right? So... They were removed from the book because it's redundant. No new unit releases, that's fine with me considering this particular army... Still, they could've updated some Assassin or Inquisitorial models.

Oh no... Does this mean that the Inquisition as represented on the tabletop is now in the same state as Sisters of Battle? They're never getting new models, a real book, or any attention ever again!

possiably, over on I think it was Naftka's site there was a rumor of Inqs getting a 7th edition codex down the road, but IIRC said rumor also promised a buncha new chaos models which these days I tend to use as my signal "the rumor is proably false"

So GW is 2 things.
#1 -not releasing new codexes equals they do not care about the army or the players that play them.
Or
#2 - By releasing a lot of new codex's for armies that needed an update and new models for them. They then are money grubbing bad guys?
So how as a company can they win? They cannot.
I am glad to see these releases 1 less in front of my blood angels or goodness maybe my sister's army I was forced to shelve since filers entered 40k.

Fyi that conversion is an actual model that has been avalible to be used since the space marine codex came out. Page #171
For 20 extra points so you could have been using it the whole time for 120 points.
Maybe the GK will be psychic or maybe gain sky fire if it does not move like the contemptor dread does from FW.

Again it seems they cannot win. Every new update to SM factions makes the op Tau and Eldar that dominated just a little more even.