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davethepak wrote:


Right, but it says, "friendly <Dark Angels> units within 6" of this model," without specifying that the model itself gets to take the rule too. I read it as the model being the epicenter of the effect, not being affected by it as well.

This has been covered before by GW, and I think was in one of the facebook feeds. The answer is usually "are you within 6" of your self?" yes, yes you are.

Just sayin.

Do I have all the leaks? Updating OP is a full time job at the moment, thanks so much to all the people who have been PMing me!
If I didn't credit you for a PM, please let me know as I was updating at work and had to do so quickly

 Luciferian wrote:

davethepak wrote:


Right, but it says, "friendly <Dark Angels> units within 6" of this model," without specifying that the model itself gets to take the rule too. I read it as the model being the epicenter of the effect, not being affected by it as well.

This has been covered before by GW, and I think was in one of the facebook feeds. The answer is usually "are you within 6" of your self?" yes, yes you are.

Just sayin.

I guess that means Pedro Kantor has SEVEN attacks with his Power Fist at 3+ WS. He is going to wreck major face in CC.

 Luciferian wrote:


It's still awkward phrasing, in my opinion. If you put me in a room with my friends, and told me to give a beer to all of my friends within 12' of me, I wouldn't assume that you meant I should take one as well. And if you then asked me if I wasn't my own friend and within 12' of myself, I'd think you were trying to be cute.

Since the new edition is SO much like Sigmar - there's like maybe 1% chance that the dude with the aura isn't affected by the aura.

Oh and I haven't had a chance to read about 30 or so pages... Moving very fast at the moment.

I'm wondering what the keyword <Legion> means. It says, for example: Keywords: Heretic Astartes, <Legion>

Does that mean you can affiliate it with one Legion yourself? Or is <Legion> a keyword on its own that all Legions have something in common?

I'm just wondering as a follow-up to Magnus the Red's rules, as he buffs Thousand Sons units with re-rolls. A lot of the Chaos units, even vehicles or monsters, have the keyword <Legion> in them. If you can just make them Thousand Sons you get more out of the re-rolls naturally.

 Therion wrote:
I'm wondering what the keyword <Legion> means. It says, for example: Keywords: Heretic Astartes, <Legion>

Does that mean you can affiliate it with one Legion yourself? Or is <Legion> a keyword on its own that all Legions have something in common?

I'm just wondering as a follow-up to Magnus the Red's rules, as he buffs Thousand Sons units with re-rolls. A lot of the Chaos units, even vehicles or monsters, have the keyword <Legion> in them. If you can just make them Thousand Sons you get more out of the re-rolls naturally.

It's a stand in so you can select whatever legion you want for that unit. So your Havocs or Land Raider or whatever unit could be World Eaters, Thousand Sons, or a legion you made up.

 Therion wrote:
I'm wondering what the keyword <Legion> means. It says, for example: Keywords: Heretic Astartes, <Legion>

Does that mean you can affiliate it with one Legion yourself? Or is <Legion> a keyword on its own that all Legions have something in common?

I'm just wondering as a follow-up to Magnus the Red's rules, as he buffs Thousand Sons units with re-rolls. A lot of the Chaos units, even vehicles or monsters, have the keyword <Legion> in them. If you can just make them Thousand Sons you get more out of the re-rolls naturally.

Yep that seems to be how it works with any of the keywords in < > being replaceable with a specific Legion/Chapter/Craftworld ect. Although some do have limitations on what units they can be used with.

 JimOnMars wrote:

 tetrisphreak wrote:

 Megaknob wrote:
All of that war gear is built into its profile to begin with or do you have to add every single weapon to every single model in your army ?

Matched play requires you to add it all up. But lots of basic wargear is 0.

I think power level will catch on as a preferred way to play pickup games as it's so much simpler. I will just require wysiwyg and that prevents power game shenanigans typically. For tournaments I think matched is still the way to go.

I really don't think so. Everyone is going to have favorite loadouts with their points memorized or written down. It really isn't much harder to remember 187 than 17.

Whatabout players who change everything game by game?

Aye, the Ad mech explanation of <Forge World> is you can use any of the forge world's from GW's background or books or invent your own. Nice and flexible really.

And that Neutron laser and Icarus Array for the Onager Dunecrawler...oh my.

rvd1ofakind wrote:
Mechanicus fully scanned.
Will post pics here

Spoiler:

My Hero. Thank you so much!


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ListenToMeWarriors wrote:
Aye, the Ad mech explanation of <Forge World> is you can use any of the forge world's from GW's background or books or invent your own. Nice and flexible really.

And that Neutron laser and Icarus Array for the Onager Dunecrawler...oh my.

Sadly, you will always say "Mars" due to Belisarius.

So the Ad Mech Icarus Array...can you shoot all three modes at once?

ListenToMeWarriors wrote:
Aye, the Ad mech explanation of <Forge World> is you can use any of the forge world's from GW's background or books or invent your own. Nice and flexible really.

And that Neutron laser and Icarus Array for the Onager Dunecrawler...oh my.

I am so glad I gave my Onager a Neutron Laser.

I think I am going to use Mars as my Forge World so I can get Cawl, but still flavor it as Forge World Tarn (which is Dark Angels colors, BTW). (Above poster is right, Mars will be the only Forge World people will see until a character comes out for some of the other Forge Worlds.)


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ListenToMeWarriors wrote:
So the Ad Mech Icarus Array...can you shoot all three modes at once?

It is one weapon that has a ton of profiles.

OP was also reformatted, now has titles and things got shuffled around to be in better spots.

@ casvalremdeikun the damage rolls of 1 or 2 counting as a 3 is plain nasty on the neutron laser.

 Kharne the Befriender wrote:

 Luciferian wrote:
Primaris Rhino confirmed:

https://www.instagram.com/p/BUvj9aAgwJQ/?taken-by=canhammer_yt

Unfortunately you're wrong, that's a command rhino thing

Would be funny if that WAS the "primaris rhino" since it cannot carry primaris models

ListenToMeWarriors wrote:
@ casvalremdeikun the damage rolls of 1 or 2 counting as a 3 is plain nasty on the neutron laser.

I know. It is going to be awesome. Donkeytank to the rescue! I think I need to get another Skitarii Start Collecting.

I still gotta say, I am thrilled I will be able to give the Princeps for my Ruststalkers twin Transonic Blades and a Chord Claw while still giving the rest of the Unit Transonic Razors and Chord Claws. This way I still get the awesome looking dual-wielder (tri-wielder?) without having to sacrifice the effectiveness of the whole squad. One thing I did notice that was missing was the dataspike tail thing. It makes me sad! And it is dumb, since the model has the part, but now it doesn't do anything.

 casvalremdeikun wrote:
In other news, a Rhino Primaris that overcharges a Plasma Gun will be removed from play. 10/10 I will NEVER be using this function on my Rhino Primaris.

Said this on other thread to other but you KNOW that just begs for you to run into situation where it's maybe win and automatically lose if you don't

Or in tournament you end up in situation where you win 20-0 if you take a shot and succeed, 13-7 if you don't and 7-13 if you take and fail spectaculary(that actually happened to me once. Had to take a shot with executioner LR to win 20-0. Tried, blew out own baneblade instead, lost narrowly).

tneva82 wrote:

 casvalremdeikun wrote:
In other news, a Rhino Primaris that overcharges a Plasma Gun will be removed from play. 10/10 I will NEVER be using this function on my Rhino Primaris.

Said this on other thread to other but you KNOW that just begs for you to run into situation where it's maybe win and automatically lose if you don't

Or in tournament you end up in situation where you win 20-0 if you take a shot and succeed, 13-7 if you don't and 7-13 if you take and fail spectaculary(that actually happened to me once. Had to take a shot with executioner LR to win 20-0. Tried, blew out own baneblade instead, lost narrowly).

Oh I am totally going to blow that sucker up in a glorious fashion at least once. Best thing about it is that it will still trigger an explosion result so I could blow it up while blowing it up to blow other stuff up.

ListenToMeWarriors wrote:
@ casvalremdeikun the damage rolls of 1 or 2 counting as a 3 is plain nasty on the neutron laser.

Onagers looks INSANE. They pretty much left icarus as is but pretty much removed the huge penalty for shooting at non-flying.
And Neutron is just... just... *barfs rainbows*

More Necron leaks, this time Equipment costs... IN ENGLISH!

 casvalremdeikun wrote:

 alleus wrote:
A Leman Russ firing a Plasma Cannon will not explode, it will just lose 6 wounds and then not be able to fire the cannon again. Rule is "Something Plasma Vents". Source, Tank Commander:

Emergency Plasma Vents.

Leman russ executioner is even more of a suicide tank than before! Before it had 5 shots so in average not even hull pointing itself every turn. Now with average 7 shots odds of not rolling 1 diminishes a lot and 4 shots of those halve wounds(worse than previous) AND take out 2 plasma cannons...

And executioner cannon went from 3 plasma templates to mere d6 shots.

Exterminator autocannon also got halved in firepower.

Eradicator might be russ of choise in the future.

rvd1ofakind wrote:

ListenToMeWarriors wrote:
@ casvalremdeikun the damage rolls of 1 or 2 counting as a 3 is plain nasty on the neutron laser.

Onagers looks INSANE. They pretty much left icarus as is but pretty much removed the huge penalty for shooting at non-flying.
And Neutron is just... just... *barfs rainbows*

Onagers are pretty tough too point by point. Quickly looking the Neutron setup it still costs under 150 points, yet brings 11 T7 wounds and an invulnerable save together with the heavy guns.

 casvalremdeikun wrote:

ListenToMeWarriors wrote:
So the Ad Mech Icarus Array...can you shoot all three modes at once?

It is one weapon that has a ton of profiles.

You can fire all three modes:

Anyone else notice that two of the AM orders are identical?

Also, do the new shooting/wounding rules mean that if the Baneblade cannon hits an infantry squad, it just kills 2D6 guys really, really dead? (As opposed to pretty much the entire squad, plus the one next to it currently)

 Gordy2000 wrote:
Anyone else notice that two of the AM orders are identical?

Also, do the new shooting/wounding rules mean that if the Baneblade cannon hits an infantry squad, it just kills 2D6 guys really, really dead? (As opposed to pretty much the entire squad, plus the one next to it currently)

Yes. 2d6 shots, you roll to hit and to wound for them. Then damage but damage does not spill out.

Yeah, that's a pretty big change in role for the Baneblade cannon. Previously you could nail multiple units with it, but no more

Still sad for the battle canon. 2D6 shots would have been better, with maybe D2 for consistency

Oh well, new rules, new thinking required (but yes, battlecannons got the nerf bat)

rvd1ofakind wrote:

ListenToMeWarriors wrote:
@ casvalremdeikun the damage rolls of 1 or 2 counting as a 3 is plain nasty on the neutron laser.

Onagers looks INSANE. They pretty much left icarus as is but pretty much removed the huge penalty for shooting at non-flying.
And Neutron is just... just... *barfs rainbows*

If the Neutron Laser can shoot Flyers out of the sky...



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 frozenwastes wrote:

 casvalremdeikun wrote:

ListenToMeWarriors wrote:
So the Ad Mech Icarus Array...can you shoot all three modes at once?

It is one weapon that has a ton of profiles.

You can fire all three modes:

That is what I was getting at. It is one weapon, so when you fire it, you use all of those profiles. I wasn't exactly clear though. Thanks for being better and words to keyboard than me.

So it looks like clans are back for the Orks?

Very excited if we can get this flavour back!

Any leaks on the Kommandos?
(Blood-Axes player...)

So for Canticles of the Omnissiah you could choose the option you wanted for the first 3 turns, and then start rolling on the D6 table hoping to get one of the best ones again?