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2017/05/31 09:47:49
Subject: Warhammer 40k 8th Edition Summary - 31 May 2017: Admech + Ork leaks + much more(all info in OP)
Didnt get a chance to see the Ultramarines special characters. Qq.
warboss wrote: Is there a permanent stickied thread for Chaos players to complain every time someone/anyone gets models or rules besides them? If not, there should be.
2017/05/31 09:50:10
Subject: Warhammer 40k 8th Edition Summary - 31 May 2017: Admech + Ork leaks + much more(all info in OP)
I saw all the Necron stuff. It was basically what I expected, although Deathmarks no longer have a 2+ wounding ability, Szeras doesn't give out a 5++ bubble and the Triarch Stalker only gives rerolls of 1's. Also, the T C'tan just makes things ignore cover of enemies within 6" of it which seems pretty much worthless. Generally, they still seem pretty screwed against big models.
2017/05/31 09:51:25
Subject: Warhammer 40k 8th Edition Summary - 31 May 2017: Admech + Ork leaks + much more(all info in OP)
I managed to get hold of all the Harlequin stuff. It makes me very happy.
Yes, it will help the shadowseer and its 7+ save And now it's army-wide 4+ invul (including vehicles). So Harlequins officially don't care at all about the opponent's AP. I don't think it's great game design.
But a few things are weird. Like how come a neuro disruptor is 10pts when a fusion pistol is 9? The fusion is higher S, better AP, more damages, no restrictions on vehicles. The only small drawback is the shorter range.
The Kiss seems a bit too expensive compared to the caress too.
I'm pretty sad to see that becoming Ynarri will still be a no-brainer. Loosing run+charge and H&R to gain SftD is always worthwhile imo. And you don't even need to bring another faction's HQ to do that now.
2017/05/31 10:02:26
Subject: Warhammer 40k 8th Edition Summary - 31 May 2017: Admech + Ork leaks + much more(all info in OP)
Got through most of the Dangle stuff before it went down. Didn't get to the unit costs though.
In either case, Deathwing Knights are not 3W and lost shield wall. In return they gained the standard extra terminator wound (of course) and the Mace of Absolution is basically a thunder hammer with no to-hit penalty (the flail can cause overflow damage as hinted previously).
It also looks like SM bikes are going to 2 wounds now (at least all the basic RW were).
Plasma Talons are Assault 2 with the usual overcharge rule. The hammer RWBK's wield is +1S/-1AP and deals d3 damage on rolls to wound of 6.
Didn't see anything about Dangles re-rolling all plasma (but re-roll 1's is a common commander rule so no biggie).
Deathwing basically dumped all the cruft extra rules they had accumulated. They are just fearless terminators (as it should be). Just wish I knew the cost!
The Darkshroud creates a bubble where units within are -1 to hit. And the big DA speeders are now 9 wound with T6.
Sableclaw looks monstrous now, but as a vehicle it can be targeted freely despite also being a character. But it has 7 wounds, T6, 3+/4++ and the weapons you would expect (including the previously spoiled x2 strength on the charge Raven Sword). Looks to actually maybe be worth taking this edition.
Sadly, that's all I can remember until it's back up.
2017/05/31 10:03:19
Subject: Warhammer 40k 8th Edition Summary - 31 May 2017: Admech + Ork leaks + much more(all info in OP)
Inquisitor Jex wrote: Yeah, telling people how this and that is 'garbage' and they should just throw their minis into the trash as they're not as efficient as XYZ.
Peregrine wrote: So the solution is to lie and pretend that certain options are effective so people will feel better?
2017/05/31 10:04:43
Subject: Warhammer 40k 8th Edition Summary - 31 May 2017: Admech + Ork leaks + much more(all info in OP)
gally912 wrote: So longtime lurker, grabbed the full download before it went down.
Its a 1.4GB+ zip file.
Way too big to upload to imgur in reasonable time. Anybody want individual pages I'll upload for the next couple hours or so.
Great thread.
Please give me all the Imperial Guard/Astra Militarum stuff you got!
6000 pts of Foot Guard
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2017/05/31 10:04:59
Subject: Re:Warhammer 40k 8th Edition Summary - 31 May 2017: Admech + Ork leaks + much more(all info in OP)
Ronin_eX wrote: Got through most of the Dangle stuff before it went down. Didn't get to the unit costs though.
In either case, Deathwing Knights are not 3W and lost shield wall. In return they gained the standard extra terminator wound (of course) and the Mace of Absolution is basically a thunder hammer with no to-hit penalty (the flail can cause overflow damage as hinted previously).
It also looks like SM bikes are going to 2 wounds now (at least all the basic RW were).
Plasma Talons are Assault 2 with the usual overcharge rule. The hammer RWBK's wield is +1S/-1AP and deals d3 damage on rolls to wound of 6.
Didn't see anything about Dangles re-rolling all plasma (but re-roll 1's is a common commander rule so no biggie).
Deathwing basically dumped all the cruft extra rules they had accumulated. They are just fearless terminators (as it should be). Just wish I knew the cost!
The Darkshroud creates a bubble where units within are -1 to hit. And the big DA speeders are now 9 wound with T6.
Sableclaw looks monstrous now, but as a vehicle it can be targeted freely despite also being a character. But it has 7 wounds, T6, 3+/4++ and the weapons you would expect (including the previously spoiled x2 strength on the charge Raven Sword). Looks to actually maybe be worth taking this edition.
Sadly, that's all I can remember until it's back up.
Thanks for this
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2017/05/31 10:05:11
Subject: Warhammer 40k 8th Edition Summary - 31 May 2017: Admech + Ork leaks + much more(all info in OP)
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And now it's army-wide 4+ invul (including vehicles). So Harlequins officially don't care at all about the opponent's 
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