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 Crimson wrote:
 Coenus Scaldingus wrote:
I'd rather have not-yet-released phyrr cats that have a chance of looking decent, than see more of those horrid catratlizardthings on the table!

I didn't first like them when I saw the pictures, but after assembling the models I love them. The paintjob in that kit's promo pics somehow make them look way worse than they really are. And in any case I don't think it would have been too much to ask to have an option to give them to the leaders and champions, that wouldn't have precluded them having an option to have expensive and currently non-existing resin cats as well.
After seeing pictures of the unpainted models, the Death Maidens certainly grew on me (even more so when improved with some slight tweaks); they aren't nearly as bad as GW's paintjob had led me to believe. The catratlizards not so much, yet, but I did just pick up a box this morning, so let's see if I change my mind once I work with them. If not, they may still find a use as mutant rats for my Skaven, so there's a bonus!

Interesting how the contents of that box work out by the way (at least on first inspection). For each Death Maiden, there are 3 heads (the third of which, not shown in the promotional material, actually especially nice), 3 right arms (2 needle pistol variants, 1 toxic nail polish) and only 2 left arms (1 each of the aforementioned). But for every 2 mutant lizardcats, there are 6 head options on the sprues, yet several of those appear completely identical (same scars etc.), only having slightly different neck joints. I suppose the Maidens can be nicely kitbashed with the basic plastic Eschers, but I'd rather have seen more options for them (options that could in turn also make the basic Eschers more interesting, just like having the plastic needle pistols) than just a bunch of duplicated cat heads. Maybe I'll make them into shoulder pads or wall trophies or something...
   
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Another FAQ is out - not had a good look at it yet.

EDIT: FB says it's new - WarCom has it still dated 02/09/2020

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Has anyone got pictures of the Phyrr cat things. The original sculpts that seem to have gone away.
I can’t even really remember them now.
Hand had they said they are redoing them or just took away and never mentioned?
   
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Servoarm Flailing Magos




United Kingdom

Danny76 wrote:
Has anyone got pictures of the Phyrr cat things. The original sculpts that seem to have gone away.


   
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Longtime Dakkanaut





 Overread wrote:


There's rules for the phyrr cats and another (big monster that I can't spell from memory) in the new House book alongside the new lizardkitties. So we've got the stats for them. Indeed I'd wondered if they'd been quietly retired from the game since the models vanished from sight,so I was very glad to see them in the book.

We had those rules for 2+ years already. The only news is the phelynx catlizards and the possible change in cost of the phyrr cat which was later reverted by the FAQ.

While the book does have a lot of new content, much of it is also reprint of existing rules.


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beast_gts wrote:
Another FAQ is out - not had a good look at it yet.

EDIT: FB says it's new - WarCom has it still dated 02/09/2020

Still not able to correct the power knife profile haha.

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Danny76 wrote:
Has anyone got pictures of the Phyrr cat things. The original sculpts that seem to have gone away.
I can’t even really remember them now.
Hand had they said they are redoing them or just took away and never mentioned?
From memory, some time after the preview Andy Hoare mentioned on one of the Twitch streams that the cats were being changed as the FW team felt they could do better, or something along those lines. The overwhelmingly negative comments following their preview were not acknowledged as such, but I assume they played a role as I can't think of many cases where figures were previewed and then redone instead of being released shortly after. No idea why it has taken this long. Sure, several other houses are missing their pets (and brutes) too, but these are known to have been worked on. We haven't heard about a release for the previewed Escher champions with new weapons yet though, perhaps they'll be joined by the cats - if not, I don't know when they will get around to them.
   
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...Could've done better...and then they made the rat dinosaur in plastic.
   
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$27 shipping to Canada—are you mad Forge World. I really want a plastic spruce of hangers-on.
   
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We'll find out soon enough eh.

 Chairman Aeon wrote:
$27 shipping to Canada—are you mad Forge World. I really want a plastic spruce of hangers-on.


This is one of the rare instances where you actually can blame somebody else - international postage is garbage these days all around. I used to order stuff from the USA all the time since it was often cheaper even with the risk of being slapped with duty fees, but these days once you account for shipping the price difference is often so small it doesn't justify the 1-2 week wait.

I need to acquire plastic Skavenslaves, can you help?
I have a blog now, evidently. Featuring the Alternative Mordheim Model Megalist.

"Your society's broken, so who should we blame? Should we blame the rich, powerful people who caused it? No, lets blame the people with no power and no money and those immigrants who don't even have the vote. Yea, it must be their fething fault." - Iain M Banks
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"The language of modern British politics is meant to sound benign. But words do not mean what they seem to mean. 'Reform' actually means 'cut' or 'end'. 'Flexibility' really means 'exploit'. 'Prudence' really means 'don't invest'. And 'efficient'? That means whatever you want it to mean, usually 'cut'. All really mean 'keep wages low for the masses, taxes low for the rich, profits high for the corporations, and accept the decline in public services and amenities this will cause'." - Robin McAlpine from Common Weal 
   
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I thought Servalen would be a plastic GW release but it turns out it is Forge World... that means no sale then. Too bad because I really like the model.



 
   
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 Chairman Aeon wrote:
$27 shipping to Canada—are you mad Forge World. I really want a plastic spruce of hangers-on.


I have never paid postage to FW and I have no plans doing so. Back in the day free shipping treshold was quite high so you had to plan purchases. Nowadays it is lower and models are more expensive so you usually reach free shipping without even trying.

That place is the harsh dark future far left with only war left. 
   
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 TBD wrote:
I thought Servalen would be a plastic GW release but it turns out it is Forge World... that means no sale then. Too bad because I really like the model.


Any particular reason why you thought she'd be GW plastic? I mean, I can count the number of individual character releases GW have put out in plastic on one hand after a nasty accident with a table saw - I think we're only looking at the Kal Jericho and Stubbs set, to date.

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In the early previews I was expecting the Death Maidens to be resin as well. In general all the specialist and pet necromunda releases have been resin from FW. Which is thankfully a world away and superior to finecast.

   
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 Yodhrin wrote:
 Chairman Aeon wrote:
$27 shipping to Canada—are you mad Forge World. I really want a plastic spruce of hangers-on.


This is one of the rare instances where you actually can blame somebody else - international postage is garbage these days all around. I used to order stuff from the USA all the time since it was often cheaper even with the risk of being slapped with duty fees, but these days once you account for shipping the price difference is often so small it doesn't justify the 1-2 week wait.


Rubbish! Stop empowering multinational corporations to pocket shipping and handling costs as profit. As some one selling my childhood to people all over the world there is no way two small blisters cost $27 to send from England to Canada—unless it’s next day delivery. And once you’ve discounted that option the difference between the rest of the options is days not weeks.

Besides wasn’t FW supposed to have some US operations or stock? It’s almost like they want me to order from across the other pond.
   
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Right behind you.

Forge World has a warehouse, not operations.

And if it's coming from the US...prices have been getting jacked up because the USPS has been getting gutted. Even though FedEx is a private company and is what GW uses, their stuff goes through the USPS because that's how these shipping companies keep $$ flowing, by foisting it onto the USPS.
   
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We'll find out soon enough eh.

 Chairman Aeon wrote:
 Yodhrin wrote:
 Chairman Aeon wrote:
$27 shipping to Canada—are you mad Forge World. I really want a plastic spruce of hangers-on.


This is one of the rare instances where you actually can blame somebody else - international postage is garbage these days all around. I used to order stuff from the USA all the time since it was often cheaper even with the risk of being slapped with duty fees, but these days once you account for shipping the price difference is often so small it doesn't justify the 1-2 week wait.


Rubbish! Stop empowering multinational corporations to pocket shipping and handling costs as profit. As some one selling my childhood to people all over the world there is no way two small blisters cost $27 to send from England to Canada—unless it’s next day delivery. And once you’ve discounted that option the difference between the rest of the options is days not weeks.

Besides wasn’t FW supposed to have some US operations or stock? It’s almost like they want me to order from across the other pond.


I don't moralise about "alternative providers", but don't kid yourself that you're going to them because FW are "forcing" you with unreasonable(ie, standard) posting costs. There are loads of North American companies that make cool things I'd like - t-shirts, models, computer accessories - which I have to pass on because I can't justify either doubling their price with shipping costs or rolling the dice on untracked rickety paddlesteamer-tier surface mail. Another thing I don't normally do is use the word "entitlement", but hey, if shoe fits then wear it.

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I need to acquire plastic Skavenslaves, can you help?
I have a blog now, evidently. Featuring the Alternative Mordheim Model Megalist.

"Your society's broken, so who should we blame? Should we blame the rich, powerful people who caused it? No, lets blame the people with no power and no money and those immigrants who don't even have the vote. Yea, it must be their fething fault." - Iain M Banks
-----
"The language of modern British politics is meant to sound benign. But words do not mean what they seem to mean. 'Reform' actually means 'cut' or 'end'. 'Flexibility' really means 'exploit'. 'Prudence' really means 'don't invest'. And 'efficient'? That means whatever you want it to mean, usually 'cut'. All really mean 'keep wages low for the masses, taxes low for the rich, profits high for the corporations, and accept the decline in public services and amenities this will cause'." - Robin McAlpine from Common Weal 
   
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Shipping prices from the USA being outrageous is not exactly a new thing either. It's been like that for some years, now.
   
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 TBD wrote:
I thought Servalen would be a plastic GW release but it turns out it is Forge World... that means no sale then. Too bad because I really like the model.

None of these special characters or additional minis are GW plastic, everything is FW resin. Only exception is Kal & Scabs (one time exception).

Core parts of the main gangs will however be plastic, like new specialist champs and prospects.


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 Dysartes wrote:

Any particular reason why you thought she'd be GW plastic? I mean, I can count the number of individual character releases GW have put out in plastic on one hand after a nasty accident with a table saw - I think we're only looking at the Kal Jericho and Stubbs set, to date.

Well said

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 Dysartes wrote:
 TBD wrote:
I thought Servalen would be a plastic GW release but it turns out it is Forge World... that means no sale then. Too bad because I really like the model.


Any particular reason why you thought she'd be GW plastic? I mean, I can count the number of individual character releases GW have put out in plastic on one hand after a nasty accident with a table saw - I think we're only looking at the Kal Jericho and Stubbs set, to date.


Because when it was initially previewed on the Community page it nowhere said it would be Forge World and I never paid attention to any of the previous characters since they are ugly miniatures. Also I probably saw the kit you mentioned at the local store(s) so it might not weird to think there might be more plastic kits coming.

GW should preview FW and their non-FW stuff separately so the people who are not interested in FW don't see it mixed with the regular releases.






 
   
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 TBD wrote:

GW should preview FW and their non-FW stuff separately so the people who are not interested in FW don't see it mixed with the regular releases.





If they do that they lose out on sales. AoS shows this, they dropped a load of really great sculpts from the line this year, yet kept all the Goblin models - guess which ones were about the only ones that got a fair bit of marketing and showing on the GW community pages. Granted that wasn't the only reason, but suffice to say if FW gets left to one side then its market will never grow. They should be advertised side by side not hidden away in a dark corner.

   
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 Overread wrote:
 TBD wrote:

GW should preview FW and their non-FW stuff separately so the people who are not interested in FW don't see it mixed with the regular releases.





If they do that they lose out on sales. AoS shows this, they dropped a load of really great sculpts from the line this year, yet kept all the Goblin models - guess which ones were about the only ones that got a fair bit of marketing and showing on the GW community pages. Granted that wasn't the only reason, but suffice to say if FW gets left to one side then its market will never grow. They should be advertised side by side not hidden away in a dark corner.


While that may be true, if they do it the way TBD wants them to do it, he won't have to pay as much attention, so there is that trade off to consider.

kek.
   
 
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