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I have now painted all 5 armies currently available for KoW Champions with the sixth release due early next week.

The quality of the resin champions is top notch.

The rest of the boxes vary depending on their age with the latest Kings of War hard plastic kits being amazing quality and the older kits suffering a little as a result.

Photos attached. I’m not great at taking photos of miniatures.

I fear the ball continues to be dropped on Warpath

I'm starting to get annoyed by it, to be completely honest...

Word on the street at Expo is, delayed until end of summer. So looks like Mantic fumbled another production window.

I think given that they've had to scramble for Halo and the US tariff situation, it's understandable if annoying that things are a little delayed.

from what I heard, the translations are still worked on and not printed yet so there is that

there was also a KS comment from Mantic to give us more information "this" week, so we should get something today or tomorrow (though technically it was written 4 days ago so Monday might still within a week)

OnTableTop just finished an interview with Ronnie - Epic Warpath tooling was delayed 6 to 8 weeks, largest project they've done tooling wise shipping mid to late summer- pdfs a few weeks before. Enforcers are done and are currently shipping from Poland to the UK.

At this point if they know it's delayed just put out an update - I guess they are waiting on a firmer shipping date but late summer suggests we won't see this until early September.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=czJCCoLexWI&ab_channel=OnTableTop - they are still live so I can't link direct to Ronnie's bit.

A few new bits in the cabinet - best pictures I can get from the stream.

Yeah those vehicles are still too small the jetbikes are almost as big.

Two updates ago they also promised updated faction guides and that didn't happen either.

I'm jealous of all these people who have worked for companies whose projects are always delivered on time.

Are those the new vehicles or still the same 3d printed masters they take around to the different cons?

 kodos wrote:
Are those the new vehicles or still the same 3d printed masters they take around to the different cons?

Good point but at this point surely they could have either painted the test shots or printed them in the current size - it's only 2 minis and they could have done them when painting the Drakon as that's new.

The livestream is finished this link should jump direct to Ronnie if not it's at 1 hour 4 minutes 30 seconds.

https://www.youtube.com/live/czJCCoLexWI?si=hjJ73gLUxSqgf-_O&t=3870

The Chira feels pretty big

But I doubt Mantic has any test shots, I don't think Mantic did test shots in their life, they just send the first draft to production and yolo. Archon will make sure the sprue is at least physically castable but Mantic will just order their 5000 units blind and what happens happens.

I already knew the "second half of May" thing was bs, but I am still annoyed that they are telling some podcast before telling their kickstarter backers. Horrible form.

An update posted on Kickstarter today.

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/manticgames/warpath-the-game-of-epic-scale-sci-fi-warfare/posts/4400087

never expect a KS on time anyway, late Summer instead of May is still close enough for me

but preview models are awesome and worth the wait imho

But I feel like if the delay was really a last minute surprise for Mantic, they would have sent out the rulebook pdf and the STLs by now. They haven't done the faction guides they promised 2 months ago either. I'm guessing they've known since very shortly after that update, so they didn't bother wasting the manpower.

I think this update was my fault. Sorry about that.

Others may feel differently but I've always expected crowdfunded stuff to be delivered late and it almost always is.

The new figures do look great. Still not regretting not pledging, but it's good to see the level of quality.

I backed project arrived 4 years after the promised finish line (Siege of the Citadel 2 ed anyone?) and I am still waiting for the new Chronopia so this small delay is nothing for me.
Really hope the ruleset is solid as it seems.

Yea I know it's nothing, it's just how dog gak their communication is.

Last word was shipping in second half of May, they probably knew before June that shipping in second half of May wasn't going to happen?

This sort of thing makes one feel like they don't even remember Warpath exists until their KS notifications blow up with update requests.

Nobody expects a KS to be on time and hassle free but it's fair to expect decent communication, imo. Just shows contempt really leaving backers in the dark

I think the mistake here was not ordering radio silence for UKGE and then that information releasing before the KS updates being sent out. Or they should have done the update beforehand. But I don't think it illustrates contempt at all. They're a pretty personable company and group of guys. That much is plain if you ever get to chat to them at one of the shows.

If you want contempt, or at least soul-less pursuit of profits by a giant corp and their customer base just viewed as walking purses, I don't need to write out the name here..

 lord_blackfang wrote:
But I feel like if the delay was really a last minute surprise for Mantic, they would have sent out the rulebook pdf and the STLs by now. They haven't done the faction guides they promised 2 months ago either. I'm guessing they've known since very shortly after that update, so they didn't bother wasting the manpower.

The delay bothers me not at all, TBH, I expected it.

Them not releasing the rules does irk me, though. I want to actually SEE how's the game, you know. Even learn to play it using proxies.

I just have a feeling, with nothing at all to support it, that an email came in from the plastics producers to clarify the Warpath slots and it got missed because that same day something also came in for Halo which is absolutely the NUMBER ONE priority at Mantic.

Like I say, I just pulled that out of my backside but with the Epic Warpath KS being a ghost town where as usually Mantic are all over their KS comments/updates it seems like there wasn't anyone available for other projects.

Ha ha it could be. Despite being a massive project (at least 9 distinct sprues.... that's more than everything else by Mantic combined gets in a year) it seems to be the red-headed stepchild somehow.

 lord_blackfang wrote:
Ha ha it could be. Despite being a massive project (at least 9 distinct sprues.... that's more than everything else by Mantic combined gets in a year) it seems to be the red-headed stepchild somehow.

Which is wild, because its also the corner of the market that would be easiest to take over. 10-12mm sci-fi is a place no one, even GeeDubs, "owns" yet. They could really make it theirs, but punting is just going to let Warcradle steal it from under them (Armoured Clash is a legitimately excellent game).

There are moments I regret choosing Warpath over AC... it was a pretty cringe move considering I'm a Warcradle volunteer... but I'm a sucker for Mantic's sci-fi universe and at the time it looked like Warpath would have all 8 factions out by the time AC had 3. Pretty sure it was also before we knew James Hewitt would head AC.

The whole timeline seems cursed really.

GW announced LI just as Mantic were about to announce Epic, but GW completely boffed the LI launch and it seems to have been staggering to catch up since. The market was THERE for the taking! The KS for Epic went great, loads of goals smashed, it was all going hunky-dory then oh hello, AC gets announced AND LAUNCHED and not only seems to be a terrific system, it has consistent monthly releases too.

The near silence on the KS pages has been uncharacteristic for a Mantic campaign, and until Halo dies down a bit I just don't see it getting the HYPE outside of fans with a YouTube channel or Instagram account.

I might be projecting a bit with my thoughts on Halo. I'm working on a massive scheme in my day job, which is my main focus and everything else gets whatever time The Big One allows, which is usually a half day or so a week.

Armoured clash does seem to have the advantage of being well designed to use its cards etc rather than the traditional bolted on approach. I am still salty GW changed Epic's scale. Killed it for me.