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**JoeRugby**

Kid_Kyoto wrote:
BrookM wrote:
A lot of stuff they mentioned to be working on has never been released or seen the light of day in the end sadly. Years and years ago, around the time when they were working on the Aquila lander, there was also talk of them doing a staff car for Imperial officials, which was described as an armoured, grim dark version of a Rolls Royce.

I'm still faintly hoping that one day we'll see that one.

Ah well plenty of die cast cars out there I can glue skulls to.

Might have already been said (I'm 2 pages behind on this topic at the moment) but tamiya do a citroen traction ww2 staff car kit that would look spot on in my mind with an Aquila or two.

**Bronzefists42**

BrookM wrote:
Most fodder squads have a basic size of 20 models. The Levy squad can be expanded to 50 models tops and on top of that you can also attach stuff like medics for FNP and pseudo-Commissars for rerolls of Ld checks.

Thanks. These guys sound like great fodder for squatting on objectives while my World Eaters kill things up front.

**BrookM**

As added bonus, the Levy squad also has the Expendable rule (or named something along those lines) so they don't give up points when wiped out unless the scenario calls for it.

**e.earnshaw**

Do we have any rumors on usrax (close combat thalaxii) coming out?

**Wilson**

Is there any word on ad mech stuff for 40k? ( heres looking for that av14 transport :/)

**e.earnshaw**

The ad mech stuff for 40k is gw only this is the fw thread... think your in the wrong place.

On a nother note about the warlord you buy the head seperaly beacuse they are making multiple heads. Other facts oh yes the whole thing ways severn kilos. Finaly as well as the two twin las turrets at the back it has two maler bolt cannons at the front. Just if any one wanted to know.

**ImAGeek**

e.earnshaw wrote:
The ad mech stuff for 40k is gw only this is the fw thread... think your in the wrong place.

I think he was asking if FW are doing anything Ad Mech for 40k (like an IA book to use Mechanicum stuff in 40k).

**e.earnshaw**

@imageek Ok my misunderstanding. Well then as for his question you can use the mechanicum transport from 30k just ask your opponent And your wallet 85 pounds for a 135pt transport.

**ImAGeek**

e.earnshaw wrote:
The ad mech stuff for 40k is gw only this is the fw thread... think your in the wrong place.

On a nother note about the warlord you buy the head seperaly beacuse they are making multiple heads. Other facts oh yes the whole thing ways severn kilos. Finaly as well as the two twin las turrets at the back it has two maler bolt cannons at the front. Just if any one wanted to know.

Another fun fact, if it was made from melted down character series models, it would cost about £11,000 (according to someone who went to the weekender). I tried to reason with my girlfriend that that made £1,400 a bargain but it didn't work...

**Wilson**

e.earnshaw wrote:
@imageek Ok my misunderstanding. Well then as for his question you can use the mechanicum transport from 30k just ask your opponent And your wallet 85 pounds for a 135pt transport.

That doesn't answer my question.

**ImAGeek**

Wilson wrote:
e.earnshaw wrote:
@imageek Ok my misunderstanding. Well then as for his question you can use the mechanicum transport from 30k just ask your opponent And your wallet 85 pounds for a 135pt transport.

That doesn't answer my question.

There's nothing that we know of planned, but whether that means there's nothing planned I don't know.

**SirDonlad**

Wilson wrote:
e.earnshaw wrote:
@imageek Ok my misunderstanding. Well then as for his question you can use the mechanicum transport from 30k just ask your opponent And your wallet 85 pounds for a 135pt transport.

That doesn't answer my question.

I don't think anyone has asked about it at a high enough level yet.

My opinion is they will wait until the rumoured 'mechanicum LRB' is out before they start IA:Adeptus Mechanicus
i'm seeing it as more a challenging question to the design team of "How many more new units do you want to do for the Mechanicum?"
I sympathise with them on that, because it seems to be the section of the imperial forces with the most creative freedom; and the civil war on mars could fill more books than the Isstvan campain! (imho)

Plus with the amount of other factions expected at some point or other, it's yet another hard question to answer, which is added to the pile.

When i asked them about the use of the Onager Dunecrawler in 30k (citing references for it's existence well before the crusade), they said that they hadn't even considered it and conceded that they couldn't see why the Mechanicum wouldn't be making use of Onagers at that time; (apologies for the double-negative) but thats how they said it... http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/645088.page#7796525

**Wilson**

SirDonlad wrote:
Wilson wrote:
e.earnshaw wrote:
@imageek Ok my misunderstanding. Well then as for his question you can use the mechanicum transport from 30k just ask your opponent And your wallet 85 pounds for a 135pt transport.

That doesn't answer my question.

I don't think anyone has asked about it at a high enough level yet.

My opinion is they will wait until the rumoured 'mechanicum LRB' is out before they start IA:Adeptus Mechanicus
i'm seeing it as more a challenging question to the design team of "How many more new units do you want to do for the Mechanicum?"
I sympathise with them on that, because it seems to be the section of the imperial forces with the most creative freedom; and the civil war on mars could fill more books than the Isstvan campain! (imho)

Plus with the amount of other factions expected at some point or other, it's yet another hard question to answer, which is added to the pile.

When i asked them about the use of the Onager Dunecrawler in 30k (citing references for it's existence well before the crusade), they said that they hadn't even considered it and conceded that they couldn't see why the Mechanicum wouldn't be making use of Onagers at that time; (apologies for the double-negative) but thats how they said it... http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/645088.page#7796525

Thanks mate. I do hope they come out with something sooner rather than later. They didnt hold back with new knights so heres hoping!

**reds8n**

http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/News/FORGE_WORLD_BULLETIN_62.html

Monday 1st of June, 2015

FORGE WORLD BULLETIN #62

The Forge World Studio designers are never ones to rest on their laurels. After showing some incredible models recently at the Grand Opening of Warhammer World, they’re already working hard on more, and with the Forge World Open Day only weeks away, it's no wonder! Just this week I spied some new upgrade kits for the Alpha Legion, which is quite an achievement as the XXth Legion are usually much more secretive...

These new upgrade components aren’t far away from release.

As well as designing models and writing books, there are always new units being added to people’s armies in the Forge World Studio. Paul Rudge has recently added some Mechanicum allies to his Death Guard Legion. These Myrmidon Secutors will be joining the Castellax Battle-automata and a Cerastus Knight-Acheron, all in Death Guard colours, and there’s more to come..

The latest additions to Paul’s force.

That’s all from me for now. Make sure you check back soon for more from the Forge World Studio.

Chris

**angelofvengeance**

Quite liking the look of Alpha Legion's stuff

**ImAGeek**

It looks alright. Nothing really to write home about. Glad they're not too blinged out.

**Looky Likey**

Bah, another upgrade kit, seems like they aren't interested in bundling any of these with legs, arms and shoulder pads, disappointing that they are going down the money for nothing route.

**ImAGeek**

Looky Likey wrote:
Bah, another upgrade kit, seems like they aren't interested in bundling any of these with legs, arms and shoulder pads, disappointing that they are going down the money for nothing route.

These are literally just to personalise the guys in your army, they're not for specific squads or anything. You don't need to get them at all.

**zedmeister**

Excellent, there's my Alpha Legion seeker squad sorted. So glad I held out. Helmet looks particularly excellent. Hope they release some dedicated Headhunder models and, please oh please, Exodus and the Saboteur!

**Looky Likey**

ImAGeek wrote:
Looky Likey wrote:
Bah, another upgrade kit, seems like they aren't interested in bundling any of these with legs, arms and shoulder pads, disappointing that they are going down the money for nothing route.

These are literally just to personalise the guys in your army, they're not for specific squads or anything. You don't need to get them at all.

Regardless of how you use them if you want to use them (and I want the UM ones, and I suspect I'll need them for one of the unit types) they will need legs and arms purchasing, which are only available from FW in sets of five complete with torsos and heads. To use all ten that come in an upgrade kit you'll need two sets of five marines. It would seem even more wasteful to me to only use one or two of the upgrade torso/heads of a ten man set that costs £24, especially as I still need the legs and arms at £23.50 for the smallest set of available legs and arms from FW.

I guess I'm not keen on having spare torsos I've paid for I can't use without spending more money for, and if FW can bundle everything for a tactical bolter squad into one unit, why not these?

You could sell them, use a recaster or bits service but it would have cost FW hardly anything extra to offer these as a set with legs and arms, the legs and arms for the plain armour are already on a separate sprues, they just need to be cast up as such.

**-Shrike-**

Looky Likey wrote:
ImAGeek wrote:
Looky Likey wrote:
Bah, another upgrade kit, seems like they aren't interested in bundling any of these with legs, arms and shoulder pads, disappointing that they are going down the money for nothing route.

These are literally just to personalise the guys in your army, they're not for specific squads or anything. You don't need to get them at all.
Regardless of how you use them if you want to use them (and I want the UM ones, and I suspect I'll need them for one of the unit types) they will need legs and arms purchasing, which are only available from FW in sets of five complete with torsos and heads. To use all ten that come in an upgrade kit you'll need two sets of five marines. It would seem even more wasteful to me to only use one or two of the upgrade torso/heads of a ten man set that costs £24, especially as I still need the legs and arms at £23.50 for the smallest set of available legs and arms from FW.

I guess I'm not keen on having spare torsos I've paid for I can't use without spending more money for, and if FW can bundle everything for a tactical bolter squad into one unit, why not these?

You could sell them, use a recaster or bits service but it would have cost FW hardly anything extra to offer these as a set with legs and arms, the legs and arms for the plain armour are already on a separate sprues, they just need to be cast up as such.

But it would be a logistical nightmare. OTOH, there are eight different base armour sets available. Next, if we assume that there are somewhere between 10-15 different Legion upgrade kits, that's between 80-120 different units (in the packing sense of the word) that they need to have an inventory of. Forge World don't cast to order, they keep a sizeable amount of stock on hand.
So what makes more sense from their point of view? About 23 different things, which allow the customer to mix and match different armour variants in the same squad (shock horror, you could even mix them with GW plastic space marines!), or a selection of 90-130 different units which won't sell at the same rate and would likely take up as much warehouse space as their titans?

**Tannhauser42**

I like the AL helmet. It has a faceless aspect to it without the usual "grill".

**Alpharius**

That hydra 'detail' on the chest piece?

That could use some more...actual detail.

**VictorVonTzeentch**

Alpharius wrote:
That hydra 'detail' on the chest piece?

That could use some more...actual detail.

Agreed.

**angelofvengeance**

Alpharius wrote:
That hydra 'detail' on the chest piece?

That could use some more...actual detail.

Probably will be getting some. Looks like an early casting like the IF sneak peek we had a while back

**VictorVonTzeentch**

angelofvengeance wrote:
Alpharius wrote:
That hydra 'detail' on the chest piece?

That could use some more...actual detail.

Probably will be getting some. Looks like an early casting like the IF sneak peek we had a while back

One can certainly hope.

**Looky Likey**

-Shrike- wrote:
But it would be a logistical nightmare. OTOH, there are eight different base armour sets available. Next, if we assume that there are somewhere between 10-15 different Legion upgrade kits, that's between 80-120 different units (in the packing sense of the word) that they need to have an inventory of. Forge World don't cast to order, they keep a sizeable amount of stock on hand.
So what makes more sense from their point of view? About 23 different things, which allow the customer to mix and match different armour variants in the same squad (shock horror, you could even mix them with GW plastic space marines!), or a selection of 90-130 different units which won't sell at the same rate and would likely take up as much warehouse space as their titans?

Not sure of your math there, quite a few of the upgrade kits are one mark or another (WB, UM & EC are both IV, IW are II, Sals are III, Raven Guard are VI, some of the other heads and torsos are for particular marks), limiting the most common choice for a big chunk of the upgrade kits. I'm not saying add in the weapon choices here, unless the squad has only one common choice such as IF warders. So for at least half its no more sets than what they'd already have to offer.

I'd wager that most people want the kit to be the same mark, if you don't then you can buy the plastic GW kit as that is a mix of different marks in a single kit already.

I'd also wager that they'd sell more of the kits if they were combined and thus cheaper, if they can combine kits like SoH Reaver Attack squad then they can do this too.

**warboss**

For those who have the tempest HH book, out of curiosity what does it say about the early years of the Ultramarine legion? I always thought it was cool that they meshed the Terran origin of the legions with the eventual character of the world that the primarchs landed on.

**ImAGeek**

warboss wrote:
For those who have the tempest HH book, out of curiosity what does it say about the early years of the Ultramarine legion? I always thought it was cool that they meshed the Terran origin of the legions with the eventual character of the world that the primarchs landed on.

Basically because of the way the UM geneseed worked, it was used to 'calm down' some of the more prone to rebellion people from Terra, so I imagine they were recruited from all across terra. Which fits with their big recruitment area of Ultramar I guess. They didn't have much if anything to do with the unification of Terra, their first recorded battle was the Pacification of Luna. This is all from memory, I don't have my copy with me.

**MajorStoffer**

ImAGeek wrote:
warboss wrote:
For those who have the tempest HH book, out of curiosity what does it say about the early years of the Ultramarine legion? I always thought it was cool that they meshed the Terran origin of the legions with the eventual character of the world that the primarchs landed on.

Basically because of the way the UM geneseed worked, it was used to 'calm down' some of the more prone to rebellion people from Terra, so I imagine they were recruited from all across terra. Which fits with their big recruitment area of Ultramar I guess. They didn't have much if anything to do with the unification of Terra, their first recorded battle was the Pacification of Luna. This is all from memory, I don't have my copy with me.

That's about the long and short of it - they also had a noted tendency for shunning laurels and the like, owing to a particularly disastrous defeat early in their history versus a race of xenos called "Psybirds," which would lead to them being quite dour, not to be changed until post-Guilliman they tracked the xenos down and avenged their earlier defeat. Not a dissimilar flaw to the Emperor's Children - they don't take defeat well at all, it eats at their soul.