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Keep it simple keep it simple keep it simple keep it simple keep it simple keep it simple keep it simple keep it simple


No but seriously, it looks great as is.

If you're going to leave the body relatively unarmored/mechanicalized (is that even a word?) - then I say keep the guantlets simpler. It would look a tad off to have hugely mechanical hands on a "simpler" frame.

That said, I love this project!

jamsessionein wrote:
In actual combat, Urk falls off all the time. At which point he promptly loses his cocky demeanor and scrambles for something to hide under.

Fair enough, and having now read your great background fluff, I can see what you mean. I do think, though, that since Gargrim loves Urk so much, he might at least strap a little seat over his shoulder for him to sit on. All this would need is a small flat piece and a miniature back piece to hold him in place, and then a strap or two going under his armpit. I understand what you were saying about the falling-off-ability of Urk, but he just looks slightly odd plonked on the shoulder, as if he really is just an addition from you, stuck on at the last minute, which goes against the grain of the wonderfully conceived main model.

As for how to finish of the gauntlets, I'd leave the white parts as they are (but with a few dings and scratches) and then model some very small engine type gubbins on the black and red parts that are as yet untouched, near the elbow. Since the 'hands of smashingness' were made by Booma, who seems to have a real eye for orky creativity, I'd suggest that maybe he got hold of some power weapon technology (or similar) from another race, and funneled the energy through the hands. Maybe some small piece of Eldar or Tau based engine? Small would be the ideal, but you need to show that the gauntlets are powered in some way and aren't just big metal gloves that Gargrim puts on when he dons his Angry Face.

Just my thoughts...

Steampunkify the gauntlets sounds lika a great idea. The fig is a beautiful work of art, but a bit plain. Orks are seldom plain as I see it.

I would tend to lean toward the Keep It Simple side of the suggestions. I also think the jerry-rigged chair/platform on the shoulder would look both cool, and funny as hell. hope you at least explore that option. With him just sitting up there playing with himse.....I mean, playing with his hat, he just looks like a last second addon that was thrown up there. Or at least thats the initial impression I get. now if he had a chair or platform of some type he cold fall offa, he would at least look like he belonged there. but thats just my humble opinion.

~Bart

keep it simpel fits the moddels look

I permanently attached the arms and added some cabling, but I just thought I'd throw this up here to try and get some opinions:

I was cleaning off my desk while waiting for some greenstuff to dry (trying to redo the commissar hat a bit, since I don't like it) and I stumbled upon some Heavy Bolter parts. After a bit of head-scratching, I had an idea...

I just loosely puttied these on to get some general feedback. This was not even close to my original idea for what his arms would have, but it's sort've interesting and plays on that Marneus Calgar appearance I was toying with earlier. I'd make the ammo belts probably feed into a slot around his wrist area if I went with this...









Like I said, it's not what I originally envisioned, and it doesn't make for a good shield, but there's something appealing about the idea of lugging around two Heavy Bolters on your wrists.

Edit: I guess if I were to do this I could run him as a Dread in some games...

Worth doing, you guys think? I'm on the fence.

awesome! seriously awesome

maybe da mekboy saw gargrims gauntlets and said dat needs a gun!

so he fits on the heavy bolters while gargrim is sleeping

when gargrim wakes up he yells at the mek for making his gauntlets un shield-like

so the mek adds an armour plating cover over the heavy bolters.

what do you think?

looks good, but be carefull not to overload the arms.
still think he needs some form of shoulder pads or eavy armour

Hmmm...
For me it really depends on what angle I look at it from. From the front it looks a little weird because I don't even see the bolters, all I see is some bits coming from behind the gloves which makes it look a little crowded in the front. Then I see the second picture and they appear to be attatched awkwardly(sp?), but that could just be because you haven't glued them on yet.

Then, When I see that final picture I love it! I completely agree with what you said about how it clearly makes the gauntlets fulfill that shiled look you were going for. So maybe it's just the pictures because I really do like the way it looks in that last one and I think you should keep it as is.

Can;t wait to see this guy's apocalypse sheet if you're giveing those guns some rules.

Thanks

Lucas

What about having the guns shoulder mounted? Or have Urk gun them or something?

SoG

I like em. I think once to make em like you mean it and not just a quick test fit they could look really cool.

Gauntlets of ultra-waaagh?

Nice.

Alternate concept:







Shortened Warbike Dakkagun. I'd probably add the ammunition feed to the top of the back end in the form of a bullet chain going from a slot in the gauntlet to the top of the guns. I'm also giving serious thought to cutting the whole back end off the gun (from where the barrels meet the gun back) and building a new back end, closer to the body of the gauntlet.

I like these guns a whole lot more than the heavy bolters. A new back to them would help tie them in to the rest of the gauntlet too.

SoG

He's amazing, sheer scale and imposing as all hell, yes, just like forgeworld GDs need their own apocalypse rules, this guy needs to be more than just a warboss, more like Da WaaaghLord.

Whilst I know this is still very much an ongoing model, I'd like to ask what you'll be using to give him status, he looks formidable now but not necessarily like a leader, will you use a bosspole? medals and shiny stuff? Goff horns? Trophy racks of skulls?

the dakka guns look 100x better, looks perfect now

MeanGreenStompa wrote:He's amazing, sheer scale and imposing as all hell, yes, just like forgeworld GDs need their own apocalypse rules, this guy needs to be more than just a warboss, more like Da WaaaghLord.

Whilst I know this is still very much an ongoing model, I'd like to ask what you'll be using to give him status, he looks formidable now but not necessarily like a leader, will you use a bosspole? medals and shiny stuff? Goff horns? Trophy racks of skulls?

I've no idea what I'll be giving him in terms of leadership status. I may do what I did with my Big Mek and just put a grot holding a Banner on a separate base for a Bosspole. Urk is too busy looking stern on his shoulder to hold anything.

Alternatively, Urk could have a mini bosspole, which in itself could be rather hilarious.

I'll be writing rules for him once the model's done and painted. In the mean time, I actually anticipate using him as a Dreadnought in most of my games, since I am hugely fond of my Big Mek and Warpboy as well, and it's a way of fitting them all into the same list

I think the Dakkagun looks much better than the heavy bolter. The marine gun looksa bit out of place. Have you tried another heavy boltgun? Maybe the Land Raider version or the ones from the Guard heavy weapon team.

Besides that, god-like work, as we are used from you.

Well, my humble suggestion for rank would be two trophy poles attached to his back like some giant orkish samurai flags of office, not massive banners but two poles with skulls and purity seals and enemy status items trailing from them, perhaps the two poles jutting from a small generator that provides power for the fists? I can see the banner poles being crossed at the generator/backpack and then jutting outwards on a similar angle to the crossed guns on the back of the standard warboss model.

Just offhand, do these bullets look about the right size? to feed into a dakkagun?



(Not the ports on the side. I'm going to make it feed into the top of the gun, the flat spot I cut down. The holes on the side are where spent shells eject from)

The bullets feela bit short, but that's just because of the feed ports size. If you redid the ports, they'd fit perfectly.

Those Mark 19 linked grenades?

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Privateer Press Mini parts.

jamsessionein wrote:http://store.privateerpress.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=6363

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why did you have to show me this....? Now I'll be digging through looking for proppa parts for ma boyz!

(Damn you AoBR!! Damn You!!!)

I think I like it. I'm probably going to put a matching one on the other fist... that, or a flamethrower. The asymmetry of a skorcha is somewhat appealing, but I have honestly never seen fit to give my warbosses a shoota/skorcha. Or anything over a normal slugga, really. I like my close combat monsters.

Still, since I seem to be playing off the Marneus Calgar image, guns are probably best.









This is actually kind've nice, though. It means I can run him as a Dreadnought in some games if I wanted to (given his size, I think that's totally fair) and still have my other two HQs (Booma and Wurrzag) in play, while still adhering to force org.

Extra stompy and killy custom!

awesome i agree though give him a bosspole

WOW!!! Every time I come back to this thread it just keeps getting better and better. I think the dakka guns are definite improvement over the heavy bolters btw.

Gonna have to make this thread a daily stop at the very minimum. LOL

~Bart

Stop right there. No more, no more!!!

I still dont like the grot, well I really like the grot, but not where he is. Other than that, perfect.

Orlanth wrote:Stop right there. No more, no more!!!

I still dont like the grot, well I really like the grot, but not where he is. Other than that, perfect.

But I need to put guns on the other side!