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...shooting pregnant women?
Getting a pity f%£$ by a glowing blue dude?
By the time I realised how bad the thing was it was too late and my brother was wondering WTF was going on. I really tried to fast forward the grizzly parts, I swear (he insisted on continuing) but the part where they saw of the cons arms? It happened to quickly. My little bro isn't doing too well now.
Smacks wrote:
After the game, pack up all your miniatures, then slap the guy next to you on the ass and say.
Pretty much everything you just listed was in the Graphic novel, including the shooting of the pregnant woman, it actually serves an important purpose by showing the Dr. Manhattan is becoming more and more detached from humanity.
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BrotherStynier wrote:Pretty much everything you just listed was in the Graphic novel, including the shooting of the pregnant woman, it actually serves an important purpose by showing the Dr. Manhattan is becoming more and more detached from humanity.
QFT!
And the bit with the Saw and the Arms is about illustrating that flawed as they are, The Watchmen are almost definitely the good guys in the grand scheme of things, as they keep extremely nasty pieces of work from the outside world. Their methods are necessarily harsh.
It's an Adult theme, I'm not surprised Kids get distrubed by it.
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Currently Van Helsing is on the TV. I remember finding it boring the first time I watched it but quite frankly I'd forgotten just how terrible it was. Awful film.
"And if we've learnt anything over the past 1000 mile retreat it's that Russian agriculture is in dire need of mechanisation!"
Anuvver fing - when they do sumfing, they try to make it look like somfink else to confuse everybody. When one of them wants to lord it over the uvvers, 'e says "I'm very speshul so'z you gotta worship me", or "I know summink wot you lot don't know, so yer better lissen good". Da funny fing is, arf of 'em believe it and da over arf don't, so 'e 'as to hit 'em all anyway or run fer it.
I am both selfish and chaotic. I value self-gratification and control; I want to have things my way, preferably now. At best, I'm entertaining and surprising; at worst, I'm hedonistic and violent.
And the bit with the Saw and the Arms is about illustrating that flawed as they are, The Watchmen are almost definitely the good guys in the grand scheme of things, as they keep extremely nasty pieces of work from the outside world. Their methods are necessarily harsh.
Have you read the comic? I ask because the idea that their methods are necessarily harsh was not Moore's point, in fact it was very far removed from Moore's point in the comic. In fact, the idea that it is a harsh world and needs the right people to be tough men who'll do the hard thing is exactly what Moore is challenging with the ending.
This isn't as clear in the film as it leaves out the Black Freighter narrative, which was understandable given the running length of the film, but did confuse the ideas of the film.
It's an Adult theme, I'm not surprised Kids get distrubed by it.
Yeah, it isn't suitable for ten year olds, but it wasn't meant to be for ten year olds so that can hardly be a point against the movie.
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Wrexasaur wrote:
No I do not speak sarcasm, and this is one of the best movies of all time.
Sorry for being unclearly sarcastic...
Shark Attack 3 is one of the great bad movies. There's at least a dozen moments in that movie that are laugh out loud funny. It's worth it just for the greatest 'how about it baby' line of all time (not repeated here as its a little rude).
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“We may observe that the government in a civilized country is much more expensive than in a barbarous one; and when we say that one government is more expensive than another, it is the same as if we said that that one country is farther advanced in improvement than another. To say that the government is expensive and the people not oppressed is to say that the people are rich.”
Adam Smith, who must have been some kind of leftie or something.
Actually, they gave Watchmen 3 hours, it could have been horribly crammed into 1hour20mins. I am a fan of the book and very much enjoyed the movie. It is for an adult audience by the way...not 10 year olds.
Here's one to take with a glass of water before bed... War of the World with Tom Cruise...or as it should have been known TOM CRUISE (with the occasional thing blowing up).
I fething hated that vehicle for his tiny evilness.
Emperors Faithful wrote:
-Watchmen. My 10-year-old bro watched that with me. I think he still has nightmares. We actually didn't expect it to turn out like it did. (Although a guy getting chucked out a window first scene should have been a little warning)
Didn't read the Graphic Novel did you?
Nor the certification apparently. Maybe now you'll know why they're on there. I found the Watchmen film quite average, only the slow-fast-slow fight scenes annoyed me.
War of the worlds annoyed me because it mreged the parson(?) and the artilleryman into one character. Was having three characters in the book too much for them? Also when you actually look at the origional work it isn't actually very good.
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hey, HE picked it.
My little brother watched ALIENS, and while I was gaking myself, he LUAGHED. I was also deeply disturbed by the grim goryness of Watchmen, but I got the point of it. Very interesting towards the end, but basically crap for a lot of it.
Smacks wrote:
After the game, pack up all your miniatures, then slap the guy next to you on the ass and say.
And the bit with the Saw and the Arms is about illustrating that flawed as they are, The Watchmen are almost definitely the good guys in the grand scheme of things, as they keep extremely nasty pieces of work from the outside world. Their methods are necessarily harsh.
Have you read the comic? I ask because the idea that their methods are necessarily harsh was not Moore's point, in fact it was very far removed from Moore's point in the comic. In fact, the idea that it is a harsh world and needs the right people to be tough men who'll do the hard thing is exactly what Moore is challenging with the ending.
This isn't as clear in the film as it leaves out the Black Freighter narrative, which was understandable given the running length of the film, but did confuse the ideas of the film.
It's an Adult theme, I'm not surprised Kids get distrubed by it.
Yeah, it isn't suitable for ten year olds, but it wasn't meant to be for ten year olds so that can hardly be a point against the movie.
But other paints are made. You don't take a 10 year old to a hard R film, ever.
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Wrexasaur wrote:
No I do not speak sarcasm, and this is one of the best movies of all time.
Sorry for being unclearly sarcastic...
Shark Attack 3 is one of the great bad movies. There's at least a dozen moments in that movie that are laugh out loud funny. It's worth it just for the greatest 'how about it baby' line of all time (not repeated here as its a little rude).
Whether or not it was a good comic book is irrelevant. We're talking bad movies here. Edit: that sounds more harsh than meant Sebbie. I should have said we're talking about movies on a standalone viewing basis, which may or may not translate well from the book. Also I agree that no one should ever take a 10 year old to a hard R movie. Seriously what were you thinking?
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-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
FITZZ wrote: kingdom of the spiders (staring William "Capt. Kirk" Shatner)
Oh ho ho! You need more Shat action! Try "The Devil's Rain" starring Shatner, Tom Skerritt, a really young John Travolta and Ernest Borgnine (that's scary by itself)! Satan cults in the desert! Eyeless cultists! Rain that turns them to goop! This is a must see for the bad movie lover.
Frazzled wrote:Whether or not it was a good comic book is irrelevant. We're talking bad movies here.
Edit: that sounds more harsh than meant Sebbie. I should have said we're talking about movies on a standalone viewing basis, which may or may not translate well from the book.
Wasn't harsh at all, don't worry about it. I mentioned the comic book only in reference to the themes as they were a lot clearer there, thanks to the parallel story of the Black Freighter. But the same themes are present in the movie, albeit a bit easier to miss if you weren't familiar with the comic book.
But I will agree that despite the merits of comic it isn't a great movie. It is basically two and a half hours of exposition, a couple of fight scenes and a big anti-climax. Which worked in the comic book because it's a very different medium, but not in the movie. But I don't think that makes it one of the worst movies of all time. I mean we're talking about a list that includes works like Actium Maximus.
“We may observe that the government in a civilized country is much more expensive than in a barbarous one; and when we say that one government is more expensive than another, it is the same as if we said that that one country is farther advanced in improvement than another. To say that the government is expensive and the people not oppressed is to say that the people are rich.”
Adam Smith, who must have been some kind of leftie or something.
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Frazzled wrote: Also I agree that no one should ever take a 10 year old to a hard R movie. Seriously what were you thinking?
Hey! He chose it from the video store, I SWEAR! I'd seen the adds and they weren't so bad, and I never even LOOKED at the ratings of the movies my bro gets out. It wasn't feaking SAW or Texas Chainsaw Massacre, it was a movie about Superheroes!
Smacks wrote:
After the game, pack up all your miniatures, then slap the guy next to you on the ass and say.
Frazzled wrote: Also I agree that no one should ever take a 10 year old to a hard R movie. Seriously what were you thinking?
Bull Durham's quite a baseball movie, good one, too.
Gach no!!!!!!!
-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
thats like saying Howard the Duck's finest piece of work....
-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
While I agree with much of what you had up there, cant say I've seen 1980 RtoK or the first movie you had up there. Episode Three was the best out of the Prequel Movies, One was by far worse.
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