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Vulcan wrote:Skyth, I won't argue that by the letter of the rules your argument has some merit. I just don't see how using the letter of the rules in this instance makes for a better game.

Skaven with a LD 10 General would be insanely hard to deal with. Period. So much so they would be not very fun to play with, much less against. But then, that is just my opinion.
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Which is the basis of the argument...You don't like the rule.

Yes Mikhaila, you would actually be changing the rules if you say Boneripper is not the General of a Skaven army.

That this thread exists does not mean that the rules aren't clear. I keep on seeing threads pop up about guys on horses having Halberds or BSB's having shields...It doesn't mean that the rule itself isn't clear. It's more of a case of people don't like the rule.

And just for the record, I don't play Skaven and I am not arguing how I think the rule should be played...I agree that Boneripper shouldn't be the General...I just can't find rules to back that assertion up.

skyth wrote:
Yes Mikhaila, In My opinion, which is only my opinion, and doesn't seem to be shared by anyone else, you would actually be changing the rules if you say Boneripper is not the General of a Skaven army.

You really need the part I added. It shows that you recognize that other people have opinions, and that you don't think the universe revolves around you. Otherwise people might think you have some sort of Napolean syndrome.


Hmm, wait....I get it. This is just a plot to argue some obviously wrong point to death, thus proving RAW isn't always the correct route to interpret rules for toy soldiers. You picked something that has a small sense of logic to it, but that no one would ever agree with you on. Then argue it to the point of absurdity, and keep telling people how they are breaking/changing rules. Making yourself, your arguement, and RAW itself seem very silly, discrediting all three.

Very devious sir. A worthy plot that Thanquol himself might come up with. Except he can't be the general now because his halfdead, brainless, mutant lump of a bodyguard is now in charge.

Actually, several people have agreed that the rules say that Boneripper MUST be the general. Other people don't like that the rules say that so try to say that they don't when they actually do.

What the rules say is a fact...Which is the only thing I am arguing. Whether the rule should be followed is an opinion, which I am not debating.

And where in the rules is a fact called "Boneripper can be the General"?

There isn't. Your spin on how you interpret the rules led you to this 'fact'. The aguement of 'just debating the rules' is just a ruse by which you imply anyone who disagrees with you isn't discussing the rules.

That's like saying that a General of the Empire ability to be the general is an opinion.

I haven't heard any rules-based arguments against Boneripper being the general.

Skyth: no it isnt, and stop trying to put word in his mouth he has a valid point.

Im starting to agree your just arguing for arguments sake. your line is silly, pure and simple. it dont say so , so there.... its getting old. can we move on? you havent shown any proof either from your side of the discussion. so put up or.... now how does that rhyme go????

any way this thread has reached for all intent and purpose an empass. mod?

Since you gain the points for killing Thanquol and not bone, it goes to show he is the character, while ripper remains a brainless bodyguard.
To be honest, if someone does try to do this, i think ill start up daemons and just play broken rules against broken rules.

I haven't heard any rules-based arguments against Boneripper being the general.

Then maybe open your eyes and read what people write, rather than just ignore them and plead you are right.
so please, point out where it states he CAN be the general of an army.