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'my army is a bit hard to play with this list so i'll pick another' its disrespectful to other gamers.

Disrespectful? How is it disrespectful, explain it to me.

So long as you can tell what everything is "supposed" to be who gives a crap, honestly?

When people use Rhinos as Dark Eldar raiders. Consistently. That's when I'm reaching my limit.

ph34r wrote:

privateer4hire wrote:This thread reminds me of the rule that you shouldn't probably play anyone you wouldn't willingly go have a burger and a soda with before or after the game. If there's that much of a schism in your interp or "the right way to play", neither of you is likely to have much fun.

So, it makes me a dick for preferring not to play against a proxy army? I love the orkcrons and deffwing armies that have been posted in here, in fact most of the ideas are really good, but just because I say "No, bikers are actually bikers, not wolves. Look, in your codex, 'swiftclaw bikers'. They have rules." I am a bad person?

Yes.

If someone is a bad person in your eyes for wanting to play against people who model their units in a manner that is unambiguous and WYSIWYG, your world view must be grim indeed.

ph34r wrote:If someone is a bad person in your eyes for wanting to play against people who model their units in a manner that is unambiguous and WYSIWYG, your world view must be grim indeed.

You asked and then respond with insults, but that supports my earlier view of you.
Quite the opposite. I am not hung up on whether a squad of jetbikes represent bikes or wolves. As long as no other unit represents something else big deal. Shut up and play.

You take that as an insult? Let me explain for you, perhaps I was the one being ambiguous. To rephrase: if you get that upset by someone having a different preference level of what is "normal" when playing 40k, then I believe you to be greatly overreacting and therefore suggest that if non-issues cause you to judge someone's character so harshly then I would think you might react severely to actual issues. Of course, this is going under the assumption that someone's modeling "standards" is not a big deal, maybe it is for you and I am incorrect for assuming such.

Hopefully your misinterpreting of and/or my confusingly phrasing my post does not "confirm" me as a bad person in your view that you have developed.

I would advise you to remember that it is not "your way or the highway". Your tolerance of counts-as obviously goes one minor degree above mine, in that you don't care if bikers (or whatever model X) are not modeled to match the unit Y that the unit is using the rules of, even if there is a unit Z with the same model as unit X. Everyone is different in this regard, and there are people that would consider it completely normal to play with paper cutouts, pennies, soda cans, etc. Would you be happy being chastised by these players for insisting that they use models? I would think not, and condemning someone as a "bad person" for such a trivial matter is quite frankly absurd. I know that you are a Dakka [MOD], but even still I would recommend you read up on Dakka Rule #1.

ph34r wrote:You take that as an insult? Let me explain for you, perhaps I was the one being ambiguous. To rephrase: if you get that upset by someone having a different preference level of what is "normal" when playing 40k, then I believe you to be greatly overreacting and therefore suggest that if non-issues cause you to judge someone's character so harshly then I would think you might react severely to actual issues. Of course, this is going under the assumption that someone's modeling "standards" is not a big deal, maybe it is for you and I am incorrect for assuming such.

Hopefully your misinterpreting of and/or my confusingly phrasing my post does not "confirm" me as a bad person in your view that you have developed.

I would advise you to remember that it is not "your way or the highway". Your tolerance of counts-as obviously goes one minor degree above mine, in that you don't care if bikers (or whatever model X) are not modeled to match the unit Y that the unit is using the rules of, even if there is a unit Z with the same model as unit X. Everyone is different in this regard, and there are people that would consider it completely normal to play with paper cutouts, pennies, soda cans, etc. Would you be happy being chastised by these players for insisting that they use models? I would think not, and condemning someone as a "bad person" for such a trivial matter is quite frankly absurd. I know that you are a Dakka [MOD], but even still I would recommend you read up on Dakka Rule #1.

And let met make it clear to you. You asked a question, which you shouldn't have because you didn't know the answer to it. I responded to YOUR question. If you're that hung about playing a game that you can't see past a squad of bikes counting as something else then thats your issue, not mine. Its a game, act like it.

Alright. If you think that someone is a dick and a bad person for feeling slightly differently than you about how a game is represented, then that is an issue, I'm not gonna candy coat that. In addition you are wrong in all your points. Don't worry, you were not confusing, just wrong.
There was no reason that I should not have asked that question, the knowledge that someone can develop such a dislike for someone else over a slight difference in game playing is eye opening. You have shown me that all you need to do to be the most giant douche on the planet is to judge someone a bad person for Playing Toy Soldiers Slightly Differently.

I will gladly bear my "feels slightly different about modeling and WYSIWIG" with pride as long as I am eclipsed by the supernova of ridiculousness that is "people that believe differently than me are bad and also dicks". Seriously, nothing can redeem the level of dumb that you have dropped on this thread.

ph34r wrote:Alright. If you think that someone is a dick and a bad person for feeling slightly differently than you about how a game is represented, then that is an issue, I'm not gonna candy coat that. In addition you are wrong in all your points. Don't worry, you were not confusing, just wrong.
There was no reason that I should not have asked that question, the knowledge that someone can develop such a dislike for someone else over a slight difference in game playing is eye opening. You have shown me that all you need to do to be the most giant douche on the planet is to judge someone a bad person for Playing Toy Soldiers Slightly Differently.

I will gladly bear my "feels slightly different about modeling and WYSIWIG" with pride as long as I am eclipsed by the supernova of ridiculousness that is "people that believe differently than me are bad and also dicks". Seriously, nothing can redeem the level of dumb that you have dropped on this thread.

All that from responding to your own question. Amazing.

Also reported.

All that from responding to someone responding to my rhetorical question. Amazing, yes it is.
Also your lack of actual discussion/debating being made up with "you are wrong and bad" is annoying.
In the end even if I cannot take the "resisting flame bait/trolling" award, I can take the moral high ground in knowing that I do not judge people as terrible over the internet for minor modeling disagreements.

I'm locking this thread. And wish I had a funny, drunken way of doing it.