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Made in es
Regular Dakkanaut






Viktor von Domm wrote:slightly warped due to the rubber abnds... but i think it gained a lot for looks that way...feels more weathered now...very cool work!


It is a real pity, but it is either using rubber bands, or keeping it in place with my hands for 24 hours straight.

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Berlin Germany

that would be some dedication^^
but honestly i think that the slight warping adds charcter to the model! so no sad feelings here!

   
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Decrepit Dakkanaut







I think it looks awesome! No worries!

"dave you are the definition of old school..." -Viktor Von Domm My P&M Blog :
It's great how just adding a little iconography, and rivets of course, can make something look distinctly 40K-adamsouza
"Ah yes, the sound of riveting.....Swear word after swear word and the clinking of thrown tools" "Nope. It sucks do it again..."- mxwllmdr
"It puts together more terrain, or else it gets the hose again...-dangledorf2.0
"This is the Imperium, there is no peace, there are only rivets" -Vitruvian XVII
"I think rivets are the perfect solution to almost every problem"- Rawson
More buildings for the Building God! -Shasolenzabi
 
   
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Regular Dakkanaut












I think I have an idea to reduce the warping. It will still be present to some degree, but it will be way less prominent.

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Berlin Germany

will it include waves? hat was my first thought... some nice foam waves and you could look it like you wanted it from the start....

   
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Viktor von Domm wrote:will it include waves? hat was my first thought... some nice foam waves and you could look it like you wanted it from the start....


I don't think I will be doing waves on this one, but I am considering doing waves in the larger rowboats

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Berlin Germany

so you have thought up a cosmetic way of getting rid of the warping? if you ask me i would leave it as is... or possibly if you really want to add a good cosmetic way... what about shells? on the hull? is that doable at all?

   
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Staying on target.....

These are incredible and I really want to build one myself now lol

I agree with Vik, keep the warp, ships will have been crooked sometimes and most certainly never perfect

Keep up the awesome work

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Germany/Stuttgart

hm, no, I'm not much of a fan of this one..
it's just to wavy and messed up right now : /

   
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Regular Dakkanaut






A bit of waving can not be avoided, and may give the boat some more character, but I agree: in this scale, the waving is way excessive. I have managed to reduce it a bit, at least on that side. As the other side is not built yet, I hope I can keep it to a minimum there too.

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Berlin Germany

ok... had a spontaneous flash of idea... what about a leak in the hull? if you add some torn or broken planks and such things you could make this warped space (lol...) work to your benefit... heck you could even make a special rule for a scenario out of that detail...like the ship has to be abondoned in a certain amount of time...

   
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Bastia U. (PG)

The first ship was amazing ant this one will be too! how did you texturize the cupboard!?
   
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Journeyman Inquisitor with Visions of the Warp





I like the wavy warping
   
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Regular Dakkanaut






The other side of the ship has been completed. Here you can take a look at the side of the ship, after I tried to repair the warping:





And now, my question of the day. Would you build TWO chinese style small boarding rowing boats for skaven, in this style:




Or...

Should I just scrap that and go for a mutated fish-ship such as the one in dreadfleet, even if I am not quite sure of how to build it yet?



I am not even sure of the second option being doable, since my usual techniques would not be enough, but... What do you think?

Viktor von Domm wrote:ok... had a spontaneous flash of idea... what about a leak in the hull? if you add some torn or broken planks and such things you could make this warped space (lol...) work to your benefit... heck you could even make a special rule for a scenario out of that detail...like the ship has to be abondoned in a certain amount of time...


That I had reserved for an hypotetical Vampire Count's ghots ship. So it is not completely unlikely to happen in another ship. It is not a high priority proyect, however. Skaven, Dwarves and islands come first.

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I picked up my copy of Dreadfleet yesterday, and while I like the fish carcass ship-thing, it doesn't lend to holding models/crew very well.

"dave you are the definition of old school..." -Viktor Von Domm My P&M Blog :
It's great how just adding a little iconography, and rivets of course, can make something look distinctly 40K-adamsouza
"Ah yes, the sound of riveting.....Swear word after swear word and the clinking of thrown tools" "Nope. It sucks do it again..."- mxwllmdr
"It puts together more terrain, or else it gets the hose again...-dangledorf2.0
"This is the Imperium, there is no peace, there are only rivets" -Vitruvian XVII
"I think rivets are the perfect solution to almost every problem"- Rawson
More buildings for the Building God! -Shasolenzabi
 
   
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Berlin Germany

well one could always do that fishy with papermache`...but hoenstly... i would rather see you make two rowing boats for the skaven then that fishy...

and cool...even if it takes months till you reach that stage to do a vamp counts ship... for that i am looking forward now^^

cheers, vik...

by the way... ship is looking gorgeous! can´t say it any other way^^

   
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Regular Dakkanaut






And what about this (the big one)?



I think two small rowing ships are more fitting to skaven, but it might be a good idea.

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Berlin Germany

well...why cut your own options... it could be a battlegroup with two smaller ships flanking one big one in the middle... in my opinion that could look very good on the table...pretty menacing!

   
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Regular Dakkanaut






And with sails assembled:







As you can see the warping was reduced to a minimum.

However, as I have started to pain the ship with the black basecoat, the warping was back. With a vengeance. Right now, the warping is worse than ever on one side only. I don't know the reason, since I took my time to make sure that would not happen. But it happened, and I am not sure of being able to fix it this time, since the method I used to correct the warping can not be used again.

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Denver CO

That is sooooo cool, those boats are just amaizing
   
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So, is that a Sloop then?

"dave you are the definition of old school..." -Viktor Von Domm My P&M Blog :
It's great how just adding a little iconography, and rivets of course, can make something look distinctly 40K-adamsouza
"Ah yes, the sound of riveting.....Swear word after swear word and the clinking of thrown tools" "Nope. It sucks do it again..."- mxwllmdr
"It puts together more terrain, or else it gets the hose again...-dangledorf2.0
"This is the Imperium, there is no peace, there are only rivets" -Vitruvian XVII
"I think rivets are the perfect solution to almost every problem"- Rawson
More buildings for the Building God! -Shasolenzabi
 
   
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Regular Dakkanaut






It's more of a Xebec, a mediterranean sailing ship which was fast and small, so it became very useful to Algerian Berber corsairs and Barbary pirates.

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Ok, cool, but it did not have square rigged sails like European Imperial ships? The sails just remind me of the same type of sails that a Sloop carried. All three masts rotate for the maneuverability right? With all the awesome dreadfleet-inspired ship craze that is overwhelming Dakka and me, I think I need to get some sailing ship education.

"dave you are the definition of old school..." -Viktor Von Domm My P&M Blog :
It's great how just adding a little iconography, and rivets of course, can make something look distinctly 40K-adamsouza
"Ah yes, the sound of riveting.....Swear word after swear word and the clinking of thrown tools" "Nope. It sucks do it again..."- mxwllmdr
"It puts together more terrain, or else it gets the hose again...-dangledorf2.0
"This is the Imperium, there is no peace, there are only rivets" -Vitruvian XVII
"I think rivets are the perfect solution to almost every problem"- Rawson
More buildings for the Building God! -Shasolenzabi
 
   
Made in gb
Journeyman Inquisitor with Visions of the Warp





lovely , the sails , do make i look speedy, it would be cool to see a collection of Portuguese influenced minis aboard that ship.
   
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Berlin Germany

hmmm... the warping wasn´t really an issue for me... but i would like to see the primed ship now... how did you fix the warping before? and why was it now redoable?

i cross fingers for your hard work to be not in vain!

   
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Regular Dakkanaut






The warping was fixed by applying liquid glue on the opposite surface of the warped cardboard in the ammount required for the tension created in the surface to neutralize the warp after the cardboard has dried for 24 hours.

I have tried to create more supports along the warped surface. If that does not fix the warping, it should at least make it less noticeable.

Some rats for scale:



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Michigan

Can't wait to see that finished and all painted up, it's going to be sweet.

   
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Berlin Germany

i am eager to see it getting paint on!

   
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Germany/Stuttgart

Much better now. : )

Personally I would still preffer it to have some more crisp edges and straight lines, but I guess I'm nitpicking now.^^

   
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Painting has started. I started with the basecoat and inking. Sails and highlighting are still on my to-do list.

I had some problems with my home made black ink and some parts of the ship ended way darker than intended. Therefore I did the only thing I could do. Darken the whole hull and consider this ship is built out of dark, strong exotic wood.

At least, it looks like a ruthless corsair ship now, doesn't it?

What do you think about painting the sails red? would it be way too dark?





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