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gork and mork orks is the biggest and the badest !

 Durza wrote:

 SgtSixkilla wrote:
Yes they could. How did any god in our world appear? Some schmuck made them up. It's just that in our universe, there's no "warp" for the god to exist, so they never materialize. It's fully conceivable (and more reasonable than not, in the context of the 40K universe) that at some point, different civilizations made up the different chaos gods, and then converted/produced enough followers and "belief" in that god, that the god actually materialized in the warp. Kind of like how Slaanesh was created. Actually, there's a hint in there, if you just look at it from the right angle.

Slaanesh was said to be created by the decadence and depravity of the Eldar, and that they were unaware of it until it devoured most of their souls. And:

Chaos Codex 4th ed wrote:
In the Warp, simillar thoughts and emotions gather together like rivulets of water running down a cliff face. They form streams and eddies of anguish and desire, pools of hatred and torrents of pride... and such is their power that they formed creatures made of the stuff of Warpspace. These instinctual, formless beings gained rudimentary consciousness and the Chaos Gods were born- vast psychic presences made of the dreams and nightmares of mortals... Eventually, the gods reached into the dreams of mortals to demand their praise and servitude.

No dedication necessary, it happens naturally in the Warp.

Surely you've heard the quasi-philosophical conundrum of the chicken and the egg, right? Which is a stupid thing to wonder at. Without the egg, the chicken can't exist, but eggs have been around for a lot longer than chicken. The chicken is the god, and the egg is the mortals. Gods derive their power from belief, so without belief, a god can't exist, so for a god to exist, someone must believe in him. Thus, someone had to create a god to believe in, and then start believing in him, in order for him to exist.

Depends on which kind of egg you mean. Eggs in general existed long before chickens, but only chickens and other birds produce eggs with shells. And you're incorrect in thinking that the gods of 40k derive their power from belief. They derive their power from the emotion and actions of the races that fall in their domain.

That's exactly what I mean. That argument is stupid. I can sit on my couch and say that I have infinite plans set in motion, and then claim that every significant event that happens is part of, or a result of my plans. Doesn't make it true. I bet Tzeench was just neglected as a kid and left in front of the TV a lot.

Well, since Tzeentch was never a kid and TVs are hard to come by in the Warp, that seems unlikely. And since the omniscient narrator says it's true in Tzeentch's case, that makes it true.

SLAANESH


KHORNE


NURGLE


TZEENTCH



These gods are humorously stactic for being entities of chaos infact almost anyone can predict who is infulencing what simply by minor examination of the basic plot of any story where "chaos stands to benefit"

The reason the Chaos gods are not stronger than Gork and Mork is yes they do get residual emotion from orks but orks are inherently non-psykers this means what we produce is minimal at best for your gods. that is why mankind is so wracked by the demons of Chaos because of their incredible psyker potential even the Eldar have been known to be jealous of their raw talent in the ability. The Eldar might be better pskers but it is through runes, rituals and meditation humanity is given incredible potential that can dwarf many of the eldar at start. Luckily the Eldar kinda have a grasp on the whole avoidance of Perils of the Warp... in other words responsible casters


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Heck after thinking about it... the Eldar solidify their souls in their soul gems thus they can't feed Slaanesh less the gem is broken and/or not placed in the inifinity circuit.

Tyranid hold no emotions what so ever and their psychic powers are nearly impossible to backfire in fluff

Necron are obviously not psychic or emotion driven

The Tau have developed technology and have very minor influence over the mind with "education camps" and the such. Also in Firewarrior it was stated that the Tau possess a resistance to natural ability to resist mutation and possession, true they have emotion though but rarely can I imagine tau feeding the tenants of the gods.

Orks are psyker inept, But their Waaagh Energy is able to harnessed by gork and mork in the warp.

Besides humanity it looks like the only people to actively feed the chaos gods are the Dark Eldar for Slaanesh to save their own skin

If memory serves there was a bit of fluff somewhere that said that Gork and Mork don't kill off the other gods because they don't care about them enough. That's greenskin attitude for you...

 angelshade00 wrote:
If memory serves there was a bit of fluff somewhere that said that Gork and Mork don't kill off the other gods because they don't care about them enough. That's greenskin attitude for you...

Well yeah, why would you? You are the embodiment and apex god in all of 40k, are those Chaos gods a challenge? or is that twin of yours a better fight especially since he knows how you fight? Gork N Mork represent the pyske of the Orks constantly struggling against one another rather than focus on problems at hand because it's more fun to rough house.