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 loota boy wrote:
If you have no issue playing with someone who is a little over, that's fine. What isn't fine is making your list, discovering that it is one point over, and saying "eh, whatever, it's one point, no one will care." At that point, you are basically forcing any polite player to let you play with extra points or unfairly make them look like a hardass when they aren't. You build your list below the points limit. If it comes out over, you adjust. It doesn't matter how much you are over, you just don't go over. If the other guy goes over, and you really don't care., it's none of my business and you can do what you want. But it is wrong to build a list in advance, find it is a couple points over, and brin it in anyway, expecting your opponent to be ok with it and essentially pressuring them into letting you do that or look like TFG.

+1, this! It drives me nuts when gamers force other gamers into awkward social situation out of laziness/selfishness. We, as a group, already have enough of that in RL. Lets end nerd on nerd crimes and play by the rules.

 Lobukia wrote:


We, as a group, already have enough of that in RL. Lets end nerd on nerd crimes and play by the rules.

We, as a group, already have enough bean counters and nit-pickers to deal with in RL. Lets end nerd on nerd crimes and stop letting quarrels over a few points or rules get into the way of having some tabletop fun.

Personally, for me, if there is a way for the person to drop it down to the right level (ie drop a weapon/model/option) then I would prefer that happen, simply for the sake of a fair game (or have the other add something)

Again, if you don't care about a few points, and your friends don't care, fine. That's how you play, I couldn't care less. But you should NEVER bring a list that is slightly over to a pick up game or to a game where you don't know the person well enough to know he doesn't care, and even then only if it was accidental and can't be easily fixed.

To build my lists I go backwards then most others, from what I've seen any way. I start with a general idea that will fill half to three quarters of the list and include my mandatory HQ and Troops, then take the remainder of points to buy support for the core force or reinforce the cores individual teams with more boots on the ground. It has the nice advantage of having a bunch of 'seed' lists that can be flushed out to try new strategies while keeping to something familiar. From what I've been able to tell others generate a big list then trim down. Doesn't seem wise to me to start with a complete and cut but rather to know you have the pieces you wanted and a few shinys to go with 'em. So rarely do I have trouble with points. I like the idea of playing scenarios with uneven lists but everything else about the game designed to balance it out as a tactical/strategic faux simulator, though I've never done one. I don't do tournaments so no problems there. The games not balanced enough and probably couldn't be either for me to spend money for one.

 loota boy wrote:
Again, if you don't care about a few points, and your friends don't care, fine. That's how you play, I couldn't care less. But you should NEVER bring a list that is slightly over to a pick up game or to a game where you don't know the person well enough to know he doesn't care, and even then only if it was accidental and can't be easily fixed.

Yeah, that's pretty much how I feel.

Tabletop gaming is different from video gaming in that the rules governing a tabletop game's behaviour are controlled entirely by the human minds involved. If all parties involved agree on something, that's the way it is. Of course, not everyone agrees with each other, which is why random games with strangers should be expected to follow the standard rules as closely as possible. The standard rules are official, which makes nearly everyone agree that they are the default. Deviating from the default is fine so long as everyone involved agrees. But not everyone agrees.