JJ Abrams and Larry Kasden writing Star Wars

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**Grey Templar**

It wasn't, its just you've got a bit of a mixed bag.

On one hand, Twileks

On the other... Lady 6 boobs McFatFat

**Mr Morden**

Grey Templar wrote:
It wasn't, its just you've got a bit of a mixed bag.

On one hand, Twileks

On the other... Lady 6 boobs McFatFat

isn't that just catering for all tastes - hey someone somewhere thought likely the Gammorians were sex gods..........

So if we are likely to get some more Leia style imagery thats all good - are there attractive fighter pilot gals in the X Wing stuff? Oh and guys for the girls?

**FirePainter**

It has been awhile since I have read them but I do believe there was some good candidates for eye candy

And with regards to jabbas palace its all well and good until you realize that Leia was jabbas sex slave and then realize that Han gets that after.......

**-Shrike-**

FirePainter wrote:
It has been awhile since I have read them but I do believe there was some good candidates for eye candy

And with regards to jabbas palace its all well and good until you realize that Leia was jabbas sex slave and then realize that Han gets that after.......

He was (almost) blind at that point - I'm not sure he really knew what was going on.

**Hulksmash**

Platuan4th wrote:
Hulksmash wrote:
Platuan4th wrote:
Hulksmash wrote:
I wouldn't have expected all the damage at once.

Why not? They pretty much told us at some point Vader was the way he was due to a fight with Obi Wan ending by falling into a volcano/lava. That's been pretty common knowledge since around the 90's at least.

Don't remember that from the movies. Only the "He's more machine now than a man" bit by Obi-Wan. But hey, it's been years since I watched any of the films and at least a decade since I read any of the books.

It's not from one of the films. Canon statements exist outside of them, y'know.

" After writing the second and third drafts in which the point[Vader being Luke's father] was introduced, Lucas reviewed the new backstory he had created: Anakin had been Obi-Wan's brilliant student and had a child named Luke, but was swayed to the dark side by Palpatine (a Sith and not a politician). Anakin battled Kenobi on the site of a volcano and was badly wounded, but was then reborn as Vader. Meanwhile, Kenobi hid Luke on Tatooine while the Galactic Republic became the tyrannical Galactic Empire and Vader systematically hunted down and killed the Jedi." - paraphrasing from Secret History of Star Wars

I'm aware of Canon statements happening outside of the films but how does that contradict what I'd originally said. I figured he got hurt bad enough to go in the suit. But that as time wore on he got more and more beat up tracking down Jedi. Becoming more man than machine. A trained Jedi (which Luke wasn't really, even when they met in RotJ) should be a handful for him. All the damage being done at once seemed a little over the top for me. Just like his super fast fall.

**chromedog**

It's 6 months to a year between Empire and Jedi. 3PO's comment of "Poor Lando never came back from that place" can be put down to goldenrod's propensity to over-exaggerate things (something a protocol and interpreter droid should not be doing).

The mon-cal came aboard the alliance early into the thing and were responsible for giving them several ship designs.

**KalashnikovMarine**

An interpreter wouldn't but it's been long established that C-3PO's primary function is "Drama Queen"

**Ahtman**

chromedog wrote:
It's 6 months to a year between Empire and Jedi. 3PO's comment of "Poor Lando never came back from that place" can be put down to goldenrod's propensity to over-exaggerate things (something a protocol and interpreter droid should not be doing).

I recall reading somewhere that droids have their 'minds' wiped fairly frequently because if they aren't they begin to act strangely, sometimes exhibiting personalities. This is how R2D2, C3P0, IG-88, and HK-47 are usually explained. The longer they go without a wipe the more they tend to be resistant to the idea of it, meatbag.

There are also droids that are attached to a central processor that generally does most of their thinking, like the battle droids in TPM, and when cut off from that long enough they can start to exhibit odd behavior as well.

Edit: Found it. It was from Knights of the Old Republic.

"You know, if droids go to long without memory wipes they develop quirks. Personalities, and by yours, I can tell it's been quite a while" - Bao-Dur to T3-M4 aboard the Ebon hawk.

**motyak**

It also comes up in regards to astromechs and fighters. Without a wipe they can develop closer ties to a specific flight computer, allowing you to perform at higher levels in combat. But they bring their own quirks into it as well, something like that.

Not sure which of the novels its from though.

**Squigsquasher**

It ain't Star Wars if Lucas isn't involved. One does not simply make an entry in a franchise unless the original creator is involved (unless they're dead).

**Some_Call_Me_Tim?**

Or unless the original creator has proven that he doesn't know how to control himself when making movies...AFAIK, nobody wants Lucas to be too involved with the movie. I mean, think about what he did to the franchise with the prequels.

Besides, look at all the Marvel movies - they're all good, and I don't think Stan Lee had much to do with 'em.

~Tim?

**Mr Morden**

Sounds about right

**Grey Templar**

Squigsquasher wrote:
It ain't Star Wars if Lucas isn't involved. One does not simply make an entry in a franchise unless the original creator is involved (unless they're dead).

You do realize the original trilogy was good not because of George, but because other people were involved in the creative process who had greater authority than he did.

**KingCracker**

Grey Templar wrote:
Squigsquasher wrote:
It ain't Star Wars if Lucas isn't involved. One does not simply make an entry in a franchise unless the original creator is involved (unless they're dead).

You do realize the original trilogy was good not because of George, but because other people were involved in the creative process who had greater authority than he did.

Exactly right. Go do some research, you'll be shocked. By the time he was on episode 6 he had the most control and you started getting Ewoks and 5 different things going on at the same time.

**gorgon**

motyak wrote:
It also comes up in regards to astromechs and fighters. Without a wipe they can develop closer ties to a specific flight computer, allowing you to perform at higher levels in combat. But they bring their own quirks into it as well, something like that.

Not sure which of the novels its from though.

I'm pretty sure that was covered in the Zahn-Thrawn books. Because they were the only "EU" books that I read.

And to be fair, Lucas does need to be given credit for assembling so many talented people around him during SW and TESB. It turned out that he really needed them, but some credit is still due.

**KingCracker**

Some credit....sure. He did think the thing up.....kindda......sorta in a small way.... well. they did end up changing almost everything he planned originally, but sure. Credit and all that