Space marines are biologically immortal

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**Selym**

Melissia wrote:
Ashiraya wrote:
Warhammer Visions 04 from May, page 191 wrote:Having sided with Horus during the Horus Heresy, the Alpha Legion contains many warriors who are veterans of the Long War.
Interesting tidbit.
CSMs really don't count, since due to the vagueness of time in the Warp in places like the Eye of Terror and other warp storms, you don't really know if they've actually lived that amount of time.

Or if they've lived for more than 10k years. Bear in mind, many never went into the Eye, and spent most of their time in realspace.
Factor in the Warp's potential to slow down time in an area, or to transport you backwards/forwards when you travel. Or to freeze time. Or to grant immortality/eternal youth.
CSM's can't help us much here.

**Melissia**

Yeah, exactly. CSMs are a weird case.

**Psienesis**

Wyzilla wrote:
Crimson wrote:
That there are some marines that have lived absurdly long, is only proof that those specific marines (for some reason) lived that long. They are anomalities. This does not invalidate the several times stated general rule.
As for sus-an hibernation, in fiction it can be more effective than would 'realistically' be possible. Things that could not realistically happen happen in fiction all the time. And idea that a biological creature of complexity of a human could live for 10 000 years is highly implausible as well.

Except the stated rule has absolutely zero evidence behind it. Meanwhile, we've known multiple individuals to survive for thousands of years. While they might not be immortal, their lifespan at the very least extends for ten thousand years, if not longer, considering all known examples point to such.

Also, it's completely possible to engineer a human to be biologically immortal. The problem is that immortality does not exempt one from needing energy and exercise. Hence how space marines activating their sus-an membrane seem to either be producing free energy or operate at a 100% efficiency and lose no energy.

Emphasis mine, and that statement completely contradicts the opening thesis. They have very long life-spans,yes, far greater than that of a regular human. Some few examples live far beyond the norm even for Space Marines, yes. They have bio-magical means to enter a state of suspended animation for exceptionally long periods of time, yes.

That in no way, shape, or form makes them biologically immortal.

**Ratius**

Any info on other races such as Orks etc?
Its generally accepted the more an Ork fights the bigger, meaner and generally more powerful they get.
There was a piece of fluff from the Octarius war stating vid caps had been taken showing Orks the size of Carnifexes.
Could an Ork hypothetically keep growing until he was crushed by gravity effects on his body or is Ork physiology immune to such things?
Hence could they live ad infinitum?

A planet sized Ork

**Melissia**

Orks are biologically ageless as far as I know, but they usually don't live long enough for it to matter.

**Selym**

Melissia wrote:
Orks are biologically ageless as far as I know, but they usually don't live long enough for it to matter.

And the bigger they get, the more firepower they draw from their enemies, resulting in dying sooner.

Except Ghazghkull. Because awesome.

**Kain**

Ratius wrote:
Any info on other races such as Orks etc?
Its generally accepted the more an Ork fights the bigger, meaner and generally more powerful they get.
There was a piece of fluff from the Octarius war stating vid caps had been taken showing Orks the size of Carnifexes.
Could an Ork hypothetically keep growing until he was crushed by gravity effects on his body or is Ork physiology immune to such things?
Hence could they live ad infinitum?

A planet sized Ork

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