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I must say, this thread has done much to lessen my Ultramarine hate. Still probabaly my least favorite legion, but not by as much as before.

Wha...?!?

Word Bearers are clearly the 'worst' Legion - ever!

 Lord Blackscale wrote:
I must say, this thread has done much to lessen my Ultramarine hate. Still probabaly my least favorite legion, but not by as much as before.

They're not worth of hate; no army is except maybe cheesed out min/max 7e eldar which isn't an issue in HH. Ridicule? Sure... they're pompous and haughty... but hate? Nah. It's in the same boat as giving blood angels a hard time for all the nipple and beefcake armor or the dark angels for their preference in wearing size 60 women's clothing on top of their power armor.


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 Alpharius wrote:
Wha...?!?

Word Bearers are clearly the 'worst' Legion - ever!

But the Death Korp of Krieg are definitely the "wurst" ever!

These Ultramarines are not the same Ultramarines as presented by Ward and the like. This is very much a Legion that wants to get the job done and isn't beyond learning from other Legions by working together in joint operations or sending emissaries and improving upon what they've learned, without being pompous dicks about it.

Exactly!

30K Ultras are best Ultras!

(But 40K Ultras have pretty much the only place you'd want to live in the Imperium...)

Brook, it was a joke. I put a smiley face in there along with references to nipples and astartes wearing pretty dresses to stress that. I rather like the UM despite my jokes indicating possibly the contrary if you read too much into them. If there wasn't already an established UM player in my 3rd edition group, I probably would have picked them for my first army. I ended up picking blood angels simply because of fate since they were the only army not "taken" from the big 4 astartes in my group and they had a new codex that just came out when I joined.

 warboss wrote:

But the Death Korp of Krieg are definitely the "wurst" ever!

I see what you did there... What'd be the opposite of the Exalt-button? A Depress-button?

 Alpharius wrote:
Wha...?!?

Word Bearers are clearly the 'worst' Legion - ever!

Well they are at least the third worst, who knows how bad the 2nd and 11th legions were.

The 30k ultras aren't as bad as the 40k guys because they haven't learned everything yet, and haven't literally written the book on being "Ultra" yet.

 Lord Blackscale wrote:
I must say, this thread has done much to lessen my Ultramarine hate. Still probabaly my least favorite legion, but not by as much as before.

I used to be utterly indifferent to the UM. Then I read Know No Fear and came out of that thinking those guys were fething heroes.

If I ever build a second 30K army (a tall order since my first one is only barely started), UM are the leading candidate.

 Kosake wrote:

 warboss wrote:

But the Death Korp of Krieg are definitely the "wurst" ever!

I see what you did there... What'd be the opposite of the Exalt-button? A Depress-button?

A 'Disparage' button? I like it!!

 SirDonlad wrote:

 Kosake wrote:

 warboss wrote:

But the Death Korp of Krieg are definitely the "wurst" ever!

I see what you did there... What'd be the opposite of the Exalt-button? A Depress-button?

A 'Disparage' button? I like it!!

A simple groan is reward enough for a joke of that calibre especially given Kosake's flag!

Well, at least you didn't summon <NAME REDACTED> and subject us to one of his "STAWP VILIFYING ZE GERMANS" rants.

 BrookM wrote:
Well, at least you didn't summon <NAME REDACTED> and subject us to one of his "STAWP VILIFYING ZE GERMANS" rants.

Good point!

FW is the last best hope for 40K 30K, aren't they?

I look forward to a "GREAT CRUSADE" era book so all the filthy Xenos can join in too.

It would certainly be an interesting addition to the range, though I'd love to see BL tackle the pre-Heresy more as well. Heresy I know, as a lot of people want the story to move on already, but I personally would love to see more of the Imperium and its conquests before it all went tits up.

Right - Crusade Era, yes?

Unless you want Unification Wars?

I'd like that too...

Seriously...

Ultramarines transfers and the bundle are missing from FWs site now

kb_lock wrote:
Ultramarines transfers and the bundle are missing from FWs site now

"move along nothing to see!" Alpharius

The current militia/cult list can be used for most/all unification war and crusade era non IoN human cultures and some low tech cultures.

If I am recalling correctly FW said they wouldn't be doing xenos stuff, since the lists are centered around man vs man.

You are recalling correctly - this is the Horus Heresy after all!

That's why were were hoping/spitballing/dreaming about Crusade Era books, so the Xenos could come out and play.

They should be around during the Scourging too, maybe.

Have you seen the militia rules though? I think they do cover a lot of what your looking for.

They are VERY customisable and broad so they can fill a lot of GC era xenos roles.

I was gonna give this book a miss but the militia list really sold it to me

What kind of xenos would you guys like to see? I'd love for modern Saharduin.

Am i going mad or did the description for the land raider achillies change?

I don't remember it saying about the Ordo Reductor having them when i bought mine...

(Oh my word i hope that's a hint at a full Ordo Reductor list around the corner!!)

 Alpharius wrote:
You are recalling correctly - this is the Horus Heresy after all!

That's why were were hoping/spitballing/dreaming about Crusade Era books, so the Xenos could come out and play.

They should be around during the Scourging too, maybe.

Oh c'mon Forgeworld, just give me my unification wars already.

MacMuckles wrote:
What kind of xenos would you guys like to see? I'd love for modern Saharduin.

I personally would love to see a forge world take on the Saharduin.... But Bronzefists42 did make a good point that you could repersent them with the milita list if you could find the appropriate models.

The militia list is indeed very versatile and offers great customisation, though I wonder how well they'll hold up against the Legiones Astartes, seeing as this is a real fodder army that can't quite field units as large as the Imperial Guard, due to a lack of a platoon structure, or jam as many units into a single slot.

 Lockark wrote:

MacMuckles wrote:
What kind of xenos would you guys like to see? I'd love for modern Saharduin.

I personally would love to see a forge world take on the Saharduin.... But Bronzefists42 did make a good point that you could repersent them with the milita list if you could find the appropriate models.

Are the Saharduin the spider creatures the blood Angels get eaten by on Murder? If so then that's my vote . Otherwise I want to see the human (humanoid) race that was so technologically ahead of the imperium that had trapped the spider creatures and had the Anathame before it was stolen from them.

 Theophony wrote:

 Lockark wrote:

MacMuckles wrote:
What kind of xenos would you guys like to see? I'd love for modern Saharduin.

I personally would love to see a forge world take on the Saharduin.... But Bronzefists42 did make a good point that you could repersent them with the milita list if you could find the appropriate models.

Are the Saharduin the spider creatures the blood Angels get eaten by on Murder? If so then that's my vote . Otherwise I want to see the human (humanoid) race that was so technologically ahead of the imperium that had trapped the spider creatures and had the Anathame before it was stolen from them.

Those were the Megarachnids. Saharduin are weird humanoid shark things I think. The Interex are the human race you're thinking of.

 ImAGeek wrote:

 Theophony wrote:

 Lockark wrote:

MacMuckles wrote:
What kind of xenos would you guys like to see? I'd love for modern Saharduin.

I personally would love to see a forge world take on the Saharduin.... But Bronzefists42 did make a good point that you could repersent them with the milita list if you could find the appropriate models.

Are the Saharduin the spider creatures the blood Angels get eaten by on Murder? If so then that's my vote . Otherwise I want to see the human (humanoid) race that was so technologically ahead of the imperium that had trapped the spider creatures and had the Anathame before it was stolen from them.

Those were the Megarachnids. Saharduin are weird humanoid shark things I think. The Interex are the human race you're thinking of.

thanks, sold most of my series of books a while back, couldn't remember them off the top of my head.

Ok, so it seems that people got their new Tempest book.

Can we now know the official Warlord Titan background stats?

Height? Weight? Speed?