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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/03/12 22:25:40
Subject: Re:40k codex release schedule rumor
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zamerion wrote:saw this on FB
Has anyone seen this image in a codex or is it new?
That's a piece done by an artist I follow on Instagram mikhailsavier is his account name, I dunno if he does official work for GW but could just be some really good fan art.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/03/12 23:21:10
Subject: Re:40k codex release schedule rumor
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it's black and white codexes are pure colour now so take that for what it's worth, even if it's going to be colored and used for an offical publication it doesn't follow it's a codex, could be a novel (the HH novels all have art insert in em now) a forge world publication etc.
There ahs been hints in the new AOS codex that slaanish might eventually get freed. but that strikes me as something they'd save for a biiig thing.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/03/12 23:28:27
Subject: Re:40k codex release schedule rumor
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Ollanius Pius - Savior of the Emperor
Gathering the Informations.
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BrianDavion wrote:it's black and white codexes are pure colour now so take that for what it's worth, even if it's going to be colored and used for an offical publication it doesn't follow it's a codex, could be a novel (the HH novels all have art insert in em now) a forge world publication etc.
There ahs been hints in the new AOS codex that slaanish might eventually get freed. but that strikes me as something they'd save for a biiig thing.
And a lot of the color art in codices now was black & white to start with. Color is done after the initial drawing is done.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/03/13 01:01:32
Subject: 40k codex release schedule rumor
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Yup, because daemons don't exist in 40K, eh?  Nor do mortal followers, or big amoured dudes a simple conversion away from being WE berserkers, eh?
Kanluwen wrote:World Eaters only saw Kharn get updated. There's room for new World Eater models, a few new special units, maybe even Angron.
Kytan and Lord of Skulls say hi. Between these two and Bloodthirsters of various description, there is simply no more room for Khornate LoWs. Even Angron would largely sell due to being a novelty, as all the Khornate big gribbles are so redundant in being just big choppies there is no way to make such big distinction as between say GUO and Mortarion. How many big angry giants with an axe can you make?
Kanluwen wrote:Very little for Emperor's Children would be applicable to the AoS range, unless you're trying to insinuate they'd do another Tzaangor styled unit?
Tzaangors, mortal followers, daemons, Lords (the one on a snake-thing is still one of the best Chaos minis ever produced), really, with recent blurring of barriers between 40K and AoS I wouldn't be surprised if most of big S stuff had weapon options for both systems on the sprue to begin with. With Khorne, doing so would require trashing almost brand new AoS range. Which option sounds more appealing to GW?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/03/13 01:45:58
Subject: 40k codex release schedule rumor
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Ollanius Pius - Savior of the Emperor
Gathering the Informations.
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Sure they do, but the things that got updated(Bloodthirsters) were updated as part of a big push in the run-up for them destroying the Fantasy setting and starting anew.
Of course it's also worth mentioning that this supposed "update" that you're talking about consisted of one or two big kits at the time. The Bloodthirster 3in1 kit and Skarbrand; and in the run-up to them redoing 40k over a year or so later we got a plastic Kharn.
Nor do mortal followers, or big amoured dudes a simple conversion away from being WE berserkers, eh?
Were they Berzerkers?
Yes or no?
Just kidding, I know you're reaching pretty hard to make that relevant.
Kanluwen wrote:World Eaters only saw Kharn get updated. There's room for new World Eater models, a few new special units, maybe even Angron.
Kytan
Forge World item and it's not new.
and Lord of Skulls say hi.
Not a recent release. It wasn't even a "recent release" when it was in the Khorne Daemonkin book alongside the new Bloodthirsters and the plastic Champion of Khorne they sold.
Between these two and Bloodthirsters of various description, there is simply no more room for Khornate LoWs. Even Angron would largely sell due to being a novelty, as all the Khornate big gribbles are so redundant in being just big choppies there is no way to make such big distinction as between say GUO and Mortarion. How many big angry giants with an axe can you make?
I can think of quite a few ways, mainly centering around the whole schtick of y'know, Angron giving buffs to the World Eaters and Daemons both that Bloodthirsters might not give to World Eaters and vice versa?
Realistically, Magnus was in the same situation with the Fateweaver and Lord of Change. Not much really differentiates him from them--it's really only Mortarion that had something 'interesting' going for him since he can Fly and GUOs can't.
If they want to do something with Angron and Bloodthirsters, an easy way to 'fix' the supposed problem you're talking about is just making things that should have been equipment options to begin with into them.
Kanluwen wrote:Very little for Emperor's Children would be applicable to the AoS range, unless you're trying to insinuate they'd do another Tzaangor styled unit?
Tzaangors, mortal followers, daemons, Lords (the one on a snake-thing is still one of the best Chaos minis ever produced), really, with recent blurring of barriers between 40K and AoS
You mean the two kits that Tzeentch got, right? That's your argument for "blurring of barriers between 40k and AoS"?
Because Kairic Acolytes, Ogroid Thaumaturges, Gaunt Summoners, Fatemasters, and a few other tasty treats are still AoS only.
Just like how the Maggotkin got the Plaguelords(guys on flies), Blightkings, Glottkin, the Maggoth Lords, and the Lord of Plagues(the gentleman who allows for Nurgle to have some ranged attacks on basic troopers) but Death Guard didn't.
I wouldn't be surprised if most of big S stuff had weapon options for both systems on the sprue to begin with.
Yeah, like how they gave Tzaangors autopistols and chainswords on the sprue!...oh wait.
With Khorne, doing so would require trashing almost brand new AoS range. Which option sounds more appealing to GW?
Because there's so much shared between the two existing 40k Tzeentch and Nurgle ranges and the AoS ones right?
You're making an argument using "facts" that aren't and speculation that really doesn't line up with anything. They can easily do a Berzerker kit, a Terminator kit, Angron, and some kind of cheap chaff unit(plastic Flesh Hounds c'mon!) without it "require trashing an almost brand new AoS range".
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/03/13 03:15:16
Subject: 40k codex release schedule rumor
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Ancient Chaos Terminator
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Kanluwen wrote: They can easily do a Berzerker kit, a Terminator kit, Angron, and some kind of cheap chaff unit(plastic Flesh Hounds c'mon!) without it "require trashing an almost brand new AoS range".
Heck, they could do this as a summer release with Warzone: Armageddon (which is supposedly suffering a bit of a Daemon infestation and was the last place Angron was seen...hmm...wouldn't be surprised if the World Eaters showed up there cause Daddy was coming back - plus we've seen Sly Marbo and been promised he was a future long term release so, some splash Orks, AM and WE codex and releases?) and still have the Dec-Jan release be a complete EC overhaul with AoS Slaanesh released around the same time - matching the pattern of previous years ( KDK/Blades of Khorne, Thousand Sons/Disciples of Tzeentch, Death Guard/Maggotkin of Nurgle). I mean, really, when you think of it...
For the Daemon range to be 'complete' they need to update Flesh Hounds (easy splash release with some WE stuff) and then a whole bunch of Slaaneshi units need to be added (Herald types) or updated (Fiends and KoS).
EC seem more likely for a TS/ DG style overhaul because...well, they're a lot more specialised and diverse than WE - WE are essentially just CHOPPY CSM - so a cut and paste Codex with a new Berserker kit, Angron and perhaps a specialist choppy Terminator unit could easily fill a release. IT's physically less work than Custodes. EC would need whole new units - I'd like a return to the 3.5 Sonic weapons approach and you have some interesting 30k combat specialists that could make new units.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/03/13 13:46:47
Subject: 40k codex release schedule rumor
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Ship's Officer
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Someone's posted a video going through the Tau codex, showing all the datasheets, points costs and so on. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RuztP8Alo4A
Health warning: the guy has no clue whatsoever and talks a load of nonsense - but it's ok to skip around with the sound turned down if you want to read things.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/03/13 14:24:42
Subject: 40k codex release schedule rumor
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DarkStarSabre wrote: Kanluwen wrote: They can easily do a Berzerker kit, a Terminator kit, Angron, and some kind of cheap chaff unit(plastic Flesh Hounds c'mon!) without it "require trashing an almost brand new AoS range".
Heck, they could do this as a summer release with Warzone: Armageddon (which is supposedly suffering a bit of a Daemon infestation and was the last place Angron was seen...hmm...wouldn't be surprised if the World Eaters showed up there cause Daddy was coming back - plus we've seen Sly Marbo and been promised he was a future long term release so, some splash Orks, AM and WE codex and releases?) and still have the Dec-Jan release be a complete EC overhaul with AoS Slaanesh released around the same time - matching the pattern of previous years ( KDK/Blades of Khorne, Thousand Sons/Disciples of Tzeentch, Death Guard/Maggotkin of Nurgle). I mean, really, when you think of it...
For the Daemon range to be 'complete' they need to update Flesh Hounds (easy splash release with some WE stuff) and then a whole bunch of Slaaneshi units need to be added (Herald types) or updated (Fiends and KoS).
EC seem more likely for a TS/ DG style overhaul because...well, they're a lot more specialised and diverse than WE - WE are essentially just CHOPPY CSM - so a cut and paste Codex with a new Berserker kit, Angron and perhaps a specialist choppy Terminator unit could easily fill a release. IT's physically less work than Custodes. EC would need whole new units - I'd like a return to the 3.5 Sonic weapons approach and you have some interesting 30k combat specialists that could make new units.
World Eaters are "just" choppy if the designers lack imagination, which they do, just like with the Chaos gods there are many aspects to the World Eaters and Emperors Children they could explore, but they dont.
World Eaters worship the god of war and you could easily introduce all kinds of units, martial pride covers many many things, shooting, combat, leadership etc.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/03/13 14:31:39
Subject: 40k codex release schedule rumor
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Ollanius Pius - Savior of the Emperor
Gathering the Informations.
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Formosa wrote:
World Eaters are "just" choppy if the designers lack imagination, which they do, just like with the Chaos gods there are many aspects to the World Eaters and Emperors Children they could explore, but they dont.
World Eaters worship the god of war and you could easily introduce all kinds of units, martial pride covers many many things, shooting, combat, leadership etc.
It always feels like the "God of War" is more the "God of War Fought Fairly as Per Medieval Codes". He's the god of combat, of shedding blood, and of taking trophies and 'honorable' combat(no snipers, you see your opponent face to face) up close and personal.
I could definitely see World Eaters getting some kind of shorter ranged firepower unit; like Havocs equipped with flamers, grenade launchers, etc. The kind of stuff one would use to flush cowards out of the trenches and get them fightin' mad. I definitely see them getting Cultists; maybe even finally being the place we see a Renegade Guard kit or entry in a GW book? Blood Pact style.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/03/13 15:11:02
Subject: Re:40k codex release schedule rumor
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Crazed Cultist of Khorne
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Mantle wrote:zamerion wrote:saw this on FB
Has anyone seen this image in a codex or is it new?
That's a piece done by an artist I follow on Instagram mikhailsavier is his account name, I dunno if he does official work for GW but could just be some really good fan art.
Mikhail is working for GW nowadays. Bevorhand, he drew a lot of "fan" work with a focus on chaos, so this might as well be a privat art work
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/03/13 15:25:49
Subject: 40k codex release schedule rumor
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Does anybody know when the faq is due and im just wondering if anybody thinks they will nerf some of the older codex to be more inline with the new ones ?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/03/13 15:27:26
Subject: 40k codex release schedule rumor
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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ian wrote:Does anybody know when the faq is due and im just wondering if anybody thinks they will nerf some of the older codex to be more inline with the new ones ?
Noone knows except GW… And it’s starting to frustrate me a little.
All we know is that it “should” be coming within the next 18 days…
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/03/13 15:36:12
Subject: Re:40k codex release schedule rumor
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Huge Bone Giant
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With how GW is reaching out to the community these days, perhaps they're waiting until Adepticon is over so as not to give the organizers a headache over adding last minute rulings to their event?
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Nehekhara lives! Sort of!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/03/13 15:41:48
Subject: Re:40k codex release schedule rumor
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Grim Dark Angels Interrogator-Chaplain
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From: http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345193-chaos-space-wolves-codex-kroot-rumors-heavy-salt/
New Black Legion will be in a boxed set with new Space Wolves, new Abbadon model and Chaos Chosen, plus a new Wolves character and some other stuff. End of year for the boxed set.
Angron and new Khorne will be coming too, although may be next year now. Angron is gonna be huge
Also here's a big one: Kroot Codex. Hard to believe, but the source on this has never been wrong for me.
Russ is returning - old man Russ, looks a bit like Odin - and he will POSSIBLY have 2 forms like Morathi
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Crimson Devil wrote:
Dakka does have White Knights and is also rather infamous for it's Black Knights. A new edition brings out the passionate and not all of them are good at expressing themselves in written form. There have been plenty of hysterical responses from both sides so far. So we descend into pointless bickering with neither side listening to each other. So posting here becomes more masturbation than conversation.
ERJAK wrote:Forcing a 40k player to keep playing 7th is basically a hate crime.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/03/13 15:42:59
Subject: Re:40k codex release schedule rumor
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Geifer wrote:With how GW is reaching out to the community these days, perhaps they're waiting until Adepticon is over so as not to give the organizers a headache over adding last minute rulings to their event?
Makes sense, but as an faq i'd have hoped it came before such a major event, as it helps provide clarifications etc
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/03/13 15:53:47
Subject: Re:40k codex release schedule rumor
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Huge Bone Giant
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Galas wrote:From: http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345193-chaos-space-wolves-codex-kroot-rumors-heavy-salt/
New Black Legion will be in a boxed set with new Space Wolves, new Abbadon model and Chaos Chosen, plus a new Wolves character and some other stuff. End of year for the boxed set.
Angron and new Khorne will be coming too, although may be next year now. Angron is gonna be huge
Also here's a big one: Kroot Codex. Hard to believe, but the source on this has never been wrong for me.
Russ is returning - old man Russ, looks a bit like Odin - and he will POSSIBLY have 2 forms like Morathi
Werewoof Russ? Hmmmmmm...
Kroot getting a codex, Failbaddon getting a new model, sounds out there. I can believe Angron just so Slaanesh doesn't get new models, though.
Kdash wrote: Geifer wrote:With how GW is reaching out to the community these days, perhaps they're waiting until Adepticon is over so as not to give the organizers a headache over adding last minute rulings to their event?
Makes sense, but as an faq i'd have hoped it came before such a major event, as it helps provide clarifications etc
You'd think, but I suspect GW thinks their rules are fine so there's no need to rush things out for a small-time event like Adepticon.
You know, if this is what's actually going to happen.
I do get your frustration, though. BIG FAQ IN MARCH goes the announcement, and now we're halfway through March and they haven't even mentioned it anymore. That right there is not the best community work.
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Nehekhara lives! Sort of!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/03/13 15:59:28
Subject: Re:40k codex release schedule rumor
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Ollanius Pius - Savior of the Emperor
Gathering the Informations.
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Geifer wrote: Galas wrote:From: http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345193-chaos-space-wolves-codex-kroot-rumors-heavy-salt/
New Black Legion will be in a boxed set with new Space Wolves, new Abbadon model and Chaos Chosen, plus a new Wolves character and some other stuff. End of year for the boxed set.
Angron and new Khorne will be coming too, although may be next year now. Angron is gonna be huge
Also here's a big one: Kroot Codex. Hard to believe, but the source on this has never been wrong for me.
Russ is returning - old man Russ, looks a bit like Odin - and he will POSSIBLY have 2 forms like Morathi
Werewoof Russ? Hmmmmmm...
Kroot getting a codex, Failbaddon getting a new model, sounds out there. I can believe Angron just so Slaanesh doesn't get new models, though.
Kroot getting a codex actually is pretty believable. It opens up an Ally option for the Tau. The Kroot models aren't bad either, with a few tweaks here and there(some armor plates that can be added to the models, adding Pulse Rifles or Carbines onto the sprues, some capes/cloaks/ponchos) you could rework the Carnivores into having a multi-kit for Troops, Elites, etc. A plastic Shaper and Krootox/Hounds would basically seal it as a viable Ally book like Custodes.
Abaddon needs a new model. It's just that simple. A Chosen plastic kit would go great with that, and both of those being added into a Forgebane styled box would work quite well.
I think any 40k Slaanesh is going to wait until we get Ynnari as well, since those two are supposed to be pretty heavily linked. Angron and a few choice bits for World Eaters would cement them as a faction in and of themselves too.
Kdash wrote: Geifer wrote:With how GW is reaching out to the community these days, perhaps they're waiting until Adepticon is over so as not to give the organizers a headache over adding last minute rulings to their event?
Makes sense, but as an faq i'd have hoped it came before such a major event, as it helps provide clarifications etc
You'd think, but I suspect GW thinks their rules are fine so there's no need to rush things out for a small-time event like Adepticon.
You know, if this is what's actually going to happen.
I do get your frustration, though. BIG FAQ IN MARCH goes the announcement, and now we're halfway through March and they haven't even mentioned it anymore. That right there is not the best community work.
I think anyone who expected a major FAQ/balance document before Adepticon was going to be disappointed. They tend to wait until after the big events from what it's looked like, the reason why is so people might not cancel or feel like they got hit by a bait and switch.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/03/13 16:21:36
Subject: Re:40k codex release schedule rumor
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Kanluwen wrote:Kroot getting a codex actually is pretty believable. It opens up an Ally option for the Tau. The Kroot models aren't bad either, with a few tweaks here and there(some armor plates that can be added to the models, adding Pulse Rifles or Carbines onto the sprues, some capes/cloaks/ponchos) you could rework the Carnivores into having a multi-kit for Troops, Elites, etc. A plastic Shaper and Krootox/Hounds would basically seal it as a viable Ally book like Custodes.
I'd put more stock in the reasoning that it gives Tau an ally option if GW was more concerned with a more even treatment of factions, both in 40k and AoS. I don't think that's a priority for GW, however.
And while I would love to see more and better Kroot, you are leaving out the reason such a codex would come into existence: big chickens along the lines of what Forgeworld used to have. Maybe not Knarlocs per se, but I'm not seeing a codex just for redone kits of the side show to the side show.
Lastly, with how GW has developed a fixation for battle suits since the Riptide came out, I have my doubts that GW would develop the alien coalition aspect of Tau further.
I'd be pleasantly surprised if I was wrong, but as far as I'm concerned Kroot are almost in Squad and Battle Sisters territory.
Kanluwen wrote:Abaddon needs a new model. It's just that simple. A Chosen plastic kit would go great with that, and both of those being added into a Forgebane styled box would work quite well.
Yes he does, and not just since yesterday. But apparently he didn't need a model as badly as at least three primarchs. It's hardly impossible with how other Chaos characters got redone in plastic, of course.
Kanluwen wrote:I think any 40k Slaanesh is going to wait until we get Ynnari as well, since those two are supposed to be pretty heavily linked. Angron and a few choice bits for World Eaters would cement them as a faction in and of themselves too.
Ynnead comes back, Slaanesh is destroyed, squatting time ho! No need for pesky Slaanesh models!
I would have thought it's the other way around, to be honest. Slaanesh's escape (or however its captivity is resolved) in AoS leading the way with fantasy models that, in a similar fashion as Tzeentch and Nurgle, bleed over to 40k for a combined Slaanesh release (with daemons being the obvious overlapping models, as discussed earlier). Then this would be used as an excuse to bulk out Ynnari which are, as you said, linked in the background.
Undivided and Khorne models seem to only get in the way of this and logically I'd put them after a Slaanesh release instead of before it.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/03/13 16:27:39
Subject: 40k codex release schedule rumor
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I may have to set myself on fire at the gw if fething kroot get a kodex before orks
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ERJAK wrote:
The fluff is like ketchup and mustard on a burger. Yes it's desirable, yes it makes things better, but no it doesn't fundamentally change what you're eating and no you shouldn't just drown the whole meal in it.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/03/13 16:42:25
Subject: 40k codex release schedule rumor
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Well, Custodes got a codex before Kroot (and Orks, and Space Wolves, and Sisters of Battle, and...) so you might very well have to set yourself on fire.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/03/13 16:44:59
Subject: 40k codex release schedule rumor
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Kanluwen wrote: Formosa wrote:
World Eaters are "just" choppy if the designers lack imagination, which they do, just like with the Chaos gods there are many aspects to the World Eaters and Emperors Children they could explore, but they dont.
World Eaters worship the god of war and you could easily introduce all kinds of units, martial pride covers many many things, shooting, combat, leadership etc.
It always feels like the "God of War" is more the "God of War Fought Fairly as Per Medieval Codes". He's the god of combat, of shedding blood, and of taking trophies and 'honorable' combat(no snipers, you see your opponent face to face) up close and personal.
I could definitely see World Eaters getting some kind of shorter ranged firepower unit; like Havocs equipped with flamers, grenade launchers, etc. The kind of stuff one would use to flush cowards out of the trenches and get them fightin' mad. I definitely see them getting Cultists; maybe even finally being the place we see a Renegade Guard kit or entry in a GW book? Blood Pact style.
Careful with flamers, you might dry up all that blood.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/03/13 16:52:24
Subject: Re:40k codex release schedule rumor
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Kanluwen wrote:
Kroot getting a codex actually is pretty believable. It opens up an Ally option for the Tau.
I suppose they'd be an option for other armies too.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/03/13 17:01:27
Subject: Re:40k codex release schedule rumor
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Ollanius Pius - Savior of the Emperor
Gathering the Informations.
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Geifer wrote: Kanluwen wrote:Kroot getting a codex actually is pretty believable. It opens up an Ally option for the Tau. The Kroot models aren't bad either, with a few tweaks here and there(some armor plates that can be added to the models, adding Pulse Rifles or Carbines onto the sprues, some capes/cloaks/ponchos) you could rework the Carnivores into having a multi-kit for Troops, Elites, etc. A plastic Shaper and Krootox/Hounds would basically seal it as a viable Ally book like Custodes. I'd put more stock in the reasoning that it gives Tau an ally option if GW was more concerned with a more even treatment of factions, both in 40k and AoS. I don't think that's a priority for GW, however.
You can't use AoS as an example since they're seemingly trying to recover from an (arguably) "failed" attempt to tie army releases to story. Everything in AoS was tied to the campaign books early on, we'd get 2 factions per book. As it stands, yeah we have seen a bit of "more even treatment of factions". Genestealer Cults for example. And while I would love to see more and better Kroot, you are leaving out the reason such a codex would come into existence: big chickens along the lines of what Forgeworld used to have. Maybe not Knarlocs per se, but I'm not seeing a codex just for redone kits of the side show to the side show.
So how many "big chickens" did Custodes come with? Oh right, none that didn't already exist. Lastly, with how GW has developed a fixation for battle suits since the Riptide came out, I have my doubts that GW would develop the alien coalition aspect of Tau further. I'd be pleasantly surprised if I was wrong, but as far as I'm concerned Kroot are almost in Squad and Battle Sisters territory.
Battle suits and y'know, the Tidewall stuff? Kanluwen wrote:Abaddon needs a new model. It's just that simple. A Chosen plastic kit would go great with that, and both of those being added into a Forgebane styled box would work quite well. Yes he does, and not just since yesterday. But apparently he didn't need a model as badly as at least three primarchs. It's hardly impossible with how other Chaos characters got redone in plastic, of course.
Did you ever think that maybe he was going to be part of a release for a Black Legion Codex? Kanluwen wrote:I think any 40k Slaanesh is going to wait until we get Ynnari as well, since those two are supposed to be pretty heavily linked. Angron and a few choice bits for World Eaters would cement them as a faction in and of themselves too. Ynnead comes back, Slaanesh is destroyed, squatting time ho! No need for pesky Slaanesh models!
Don't start that garbage. Please. I would have thought it's the other way around, to be honest. Slaanesh's escape (or however its captivity is resolved) in AoS leading the way with fantasy models that, in a similar fashion as Tzeentch and Nurgle, bleed over to 40k for a combined Slaanesh release (with daemons being the obvious overlapping models, as discussed earlier). Then this would be used as an excuse to bulk out Ynnari which are, as you said, linked in the background. Undivided and Khorne models seem to only get in the way of this and logically I'd put them after a Slaanesh release instead of before it.
The issue with this idea is that you're failing to mention that Slaanesh is going to need quite a bit of stuff in terms of AoS and 40k both. It would be a big release while Black Legion and Khorne wouldn't need a whole lot.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/03/13 17:04:18
Subject: Re:40k codex release schedule rumor
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Galas wrote:From: http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345193-chaos-space-wolves-codex-kroot-rumors-heavy-salt/
New Black Legion will be in a boxed set with new Space Wolves, new Abbadon model and Chaos Chosen, plus a new Wolves character and some other stuff. End of year for the boxed set.
Angron and new Khorne will be coming too, although may be next year now. Angron is gonna be huge
Also here's a big one: Kroot Codex. Hard to believe, but the source on this has never been wrong for me.
Russ is returning - old man Russ, looks a bit like Odin - and he will POSSIBLY have 2 forms like Morathi
*Breathes deeply and intently*
Just yes to everything, I would love a 2 form model like Morathi, would be pretty sweet, have Viking Russ but have him turn at will into a rampaging death viking werewolf, or perhaps he turns into it once he reaches so many wounds?
And a Kroot dex, lawdy lawdy lawdy, this is why I wanna collect a Tau EMPIRE force, I want my alien allies.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/03/13 17:30:06
Subject: 40k codex release schedule rumor
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As i already pointed out to some friends of mine, check the Tau codex this weekend, if suddenly there is no Kroot or Tau units in it high chances the codex may be a future options (as it happened with harlequins and Eldar,Dark eldar codex)
If they have their own entries, chances may be low.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/03/13 17:31:43
Subject: 40k codex release schedule rumor
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Lord Perversor wrote:As i already pointed out to some friends of mine, check the Tau codex this weekend, if suddenly there is no Kroot or Tau units in it high chances the codex may be a future options (as it happened with harlequins and Eldar,Dark eldar codex) If they have their own entries, chances may be low.
Not necessarily. A better metric would be Knights, but since that would disprove your point I assume you'll ignore it. GW has no issue with reprinting material across books.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/03/13 17:49:35
Subject: 40k codex release schedule rumor
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Lord Perversor wrote:As i already pointed out to some friends of mine, check the Tau codex this weekend, if suddenly there is no Kroot or Tau units in it high chances the codex may be a future options (as it happened with harlequins and Eldar,Dark eldar codex)
If they have their own entries, chances may be low.
Considering Kroot and Vespid were mentioned in the Dal'yth Sept Faction Focus, I believe it's a safe assumption that they're in the codex.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/03/13 17:52:20
Subject: 40k codex release schedule rumor
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Do we have any rumor tracker info on that Black Legion/Space Wolves boxed set post?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/03/13 18:39:27
Subject: Re:40k codex release schedule rumor
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Kanluwen wrote: Geifer wrote: Kanluwen wrote:Kroot getting a codex actually is pretty believable. It opens up an Ally option for the Tau. The Kroot models aren't bad either, with a few tweaks here and there(some armor plates that can be added to the models, adding Pulse Rifles or Carbines onto the sprues, some capes/cloaks/ponchos) you could rework the Carnivores into having a multi-kit for Troops, Elites, etc. A plastic Shaper and Krootox/Hounds would basically seal it as a viable Ally book like Custodes.
I'd put more stock in the reasoning that it gives Tau an ally option if GW was more concerned with a more even treatment of factions, both in 40k and AoS. I don't think that's a priority for GW, however.
You can't use AoS as an example since they're seemingly trying to recover from an (arguably) "failed" attempt to tie army releases to story. Everything in AoS was tied to the campaign books early on, we'd get 2 factions per book.
As it stands, yeah we have seen a bit of "more even treatment of factions". Genestealer Cults for example.
And while I would love to see more and better Kroot, you are leaving out the reason such a codex would come into existence: big chickens along the lines of what Forgeworld used to have. Maybe not Knarlocs per se, but I'm not seeing a codex just for redone kits of the side show to the side show.
So how many "big chickens" did Custodes come with?
Oh right, none that didn't already exist.
Lastly, with how GW has developed a fixation for battle suits since the Riptide came out, I have my doubts that GW would develop the alien coalition aspect of Tau further.
I'd be pleasantly surprised if I was wrong, but as far as I'm concerned Kroot are almost in Squad and Battle Sisters territory.
Battle suits and y'know, the Tidewall stuff?
Kanluwen wrote:Abaddon needs a new model. It's just that simple. A Chosen plastic kit would go great with that, and both of those being added into a Forgebane styled box would work quite well.
Yes he does, and not just since yesterday. But apparently he didn't need a model as badly as at least three primarchs. It's hardly impossible with how other Chaos characters got redone in plastic, of course.
Did you ever think that maybe he was going to be part of a release for a Black Legion Codex?
Kanluwen wrote:I think any 40k Slaanesh is going to wait until we get Ynnari as well, since those two are supposed to be pretty heavily linked. Angron and a few choice bits for World Eaters would cement them as a faction in and of themselves too.
Ynnead comes back, Slaanesh is destroyed, squatting time ho! No need for pesky Slaanesh models!
Don't start that garbage. Please.
I would have thought it's the other way around, to be honest. Slaanesh's escape (or however its captivity is resolved) in AoS leading the way with fantasy models that, in a similar fashion as Tzeentch and Nurgle, bleed over to 40k for a combined Slaanesh release (with daemons being the obvious overlapping models, as discussed earlier). Then this would be used as an excuse to bulk out Ynnari which are, as you said, linked in the background.
Undivided and Khorne models seem to only get in the way of this and logically I'd put them after a Slaanesh release instead of before it.
The issue with this idea is that you're failing to mention that Slaanesh is going to need quite a bit of stuff in terms of AoS and 40k both. It would be a big release while Black Legion and Khorne wouldn't need a whole lot.
we won't get codex black legion, that would be pretty pointless. What we'll get is codex space wovles. and some updates fore chaos in plastic that are needed
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/03/13 18:41:58
Subject: Re:40k codex release schedule rumor
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Updated rules for Codex Marine units that are underused or weak, like Chosen, is all that's needed.
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