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No thoughts on Jerry Rice admitting to cheating for most, if not all, of his career?

What you fail to understand is that Deflategate really isn't about deflated balls or stickum so much as the specter of Spygate and the Pats' history of pushing the boundaries of legality.

Pats fans should just enjoy their SB wins, quit mouthing off, and be happy that a weaksauce, corrupt commissioner covered for them -- and will likely cover for them this time too -- and destroyed the undoubtedly damning evidence for his best bud owner before anyone else could get a look at it.

You got your trophies in exchange for your franchise name being mud. That's the trade your organization made willingly when it decided to cheat a little more than anyone else. Pats fans should probably just accept it like the organization obviously has.

Those are my thoughts on the matter.

So you're as much a hypocrite when it comes to 'cheating' as Rice?

OK!

But seriously now:

1) Jerry Rice admitting to 'cheating' for most, if not all, of his career
2) The Steeler having an elected member of law enforcement on their 'security' staff, covering for players 'indiscretions'
3) The Falcons admitting to pumping in artificial crowd noise
4) The Browns using illegal methods of communication 'in game'

Where's the outrage?

 gorgon wrote:
What you fail to understand is that Deflategate really isn't about deflated balls or stickum so much as the specter of Spygate and the Pats' history of pushing the boundaries of legality.

Pats fans should just enjoy their SB wins, quit mouthing off, and be happy that a weaksauce, corrupt commissioner covered for them -- and will likely cover for them this time too -- and destroyed the undoubtedly damning evidence for his best bud owner before anyone else could get a look at it.

You got your trophies in exchange for your franchise name being mud. That's the trade your organization made willingly when it decided to cheat a little more than anyone else. Pats fans should probably just accept it like the organization obviously has.

Those are my thoughts on the matter.

Seriously? Like how you can be that ignorant when your throwing haymakers like that? How did the commissioner that levied the largest penalty at the time ever given out in the NFL protect his buddy?

And the damning evidence he destroyed was actually played on live tv and shown to be completely innocuous. But everyone will continue to ignore that. Also there is that fact the patriots werent actually cheating and were following the NFL rule book to the letter of the law. But no please continue to claim the patriots are "cheaters" it just shows how little you actually know.

 Alpharius wrote:
So you're as much a hypocrite when it comes to 'cheating' as Rice?

OK!

But seriously now:

1) Jerry Rice admitting to 'cheating' for most, if not all, of his career
2) The Steeler having an elected member of law enforcement on their 'security' staff, covering for players 'indiscretions'
3) The Falcons admitting to pumping in artificial crowd noise
4) The Browns using illegal methods of communication 'in game'

Where's the outrage?

On number 4 .... I love the Browns and they cheated and STILL couldn't friggin win ... Shoot me now.

You can add the Vikings and panthers to that list OIIIIIIO ;p

Sad part is ... Cleveland has been my team since I was just a little swimmer. The Cardiac Kids, Kosar, (my favourite quarterback was always Brian Sipe), I guess it makes sense as to why I play Blood Angels. I am used to losing.

Huge Kosar fan here. My dad grew up in Massillon so I've always had an affinity for Ohio sports. I've gotten to experience his pain haha.

 Alpharius wrote:
No thoughts on Jerry Rice admitting to cheating for most, if not all, of his career?

How was Rice cheating throughout his career? (I'm genuinely curious, but not enough to google, lol)

@Ensis - He used stickum(self admitted just this past week via Twitter and a tv interview) which was banned in '81.(he wasn't drafted till '85)

Ohh.... And here I thought bricks would actually help me catch better



realistically, I'm not too plussed about Stickum given the tacky surfaces of today's gloves are probably on par, or superior to that substance.

if you have seen Rice play I don't understand how you possibly could think this was a big deal. It was pretty clear he was just flat out better than everyone else.

Although I gotta say if you think the rubber "grip" they have on modern gloves is as tacky as stickum clearly you've never used or gotten to experience stickum ;0

Chancetragedy wrote:


Although I gotta say if you think the rubber "grip" they have on modern gloves is as tacky as stickum clearly you've never used or gotten to experience stickum ;0

There are far too many catches made these days that I absolutely chalk up to the fact the the player is wearing gloves. Obviously, if he relaxes his fingers, the ball will drop (unlike stickum, lol) but for the purpose of catching the ball, I think they are about equivalent.

Come on now. OBJ practices those catches before every...single...game... ;p but yah not really disagreeing. They definately add something. Just not as crazy as stickum.

Chancetragedy wrote:
Just not as crazy as stickum.

Im too young to have seen him play "live" but I remember seeing Jack Tatum's hands during games.... He probably had more grass on them than the field did

 Alpharius wrote:
So you're as much a hypocrite when it comes to 'cheating' as Rice?

OK!

But seriously now:

1) Jerry Rice admitting to 'cheating' for most, if not all, of his career
2) The Steeler having an elected member of law enforcement on their 'security' staff, covering for players 'indiscretions'
3) The Falcons admitting to pumping in artificial crowd noise
4) The Browns using illegal methods of communication 'in game'

Where's the outrage?

1. HoF and 'all around nice guy' persona. Nobody is gonna touch him.
2. This is the team Roethlisberger plays on. I'll leave that there.
3. Perpetual suck means no one cares.
4. Please see above.

This 'controversy' comes down to two things. How the media covers you, and how successful you are. We know the Patriots are high up on the latter, making them an easy target. To see the former in action, search for the 'mini-controversy' of Tom Brady ignoring Sherman's handshake on twitter. ie:

There was a full uproar when several blogs posted the photo, with multiple commenters stating what a class jerk Brady was. Never mind that upon noticing him he immediately stood up, shook his hand, and called him a great player (as heard in the FX special). Belichick also isn't a media darling by any means, though he made that bed all on his own.

Anyone with a pulse knows that photo is all about timing and any misrepresentation is media sensationalism and straight hateraid. No way Brady would disrespect a follow player like that. No way.

 Alpharius wrote:

Of which there are now more than enough to put Brady, and the Patriot, in the conversation for "greatest of All Time" (up to this present time) - if not enough to put them at the top.

The great bald one will always get my vote!