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2017/03/31 16:50:28
Subject: Games Workshop - Page 6 - Shadow War Armageddon and new AoS Starter Set teased at GAMA trade show
BrookM wrote: As long as Guard veterans can get carapace armour and hellguns, I'll be pleased as punch.
My Kasrkin could come out of retirement/shame box...I have no Sergeants for them, so can't really run them outside of the Armoured Battlegroup these days.
2017/03/31 17:05:14
Subject: Games Workshop - Page 6 - Shadow War Armageddon and new AoS Starter Set teased at GAMA trade show
Get this, Deathmarks are the Necron specialists. I don't know about Praetorians. Someone mentioned them as operatives but I wasn't able to look through their whole pamphlet. And yes they can take Immortals.
To answer the other questions, yes AM vets are BS4 and the juves are regular guardsmen. I didn't read up on the Scion who is an operative. He most likely has more equipment than you can commonly put on the kill team.
And juve equivalents can only make up half of your team max.
I don't know about you guys but the AM kill team is close enough to Inquisition to scratch my itch for now.
They also have access to the grenade launcher, one of the best weapons from necromunda. Especially if we can get exotic grenades like hallucinogen.
Thinking of ordering a steel legion squad today for this game.
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2017/03/31 21:02:44
Subject: Re:Games Workshop - Page 6 - Shadow War Armageddon and new AoS Starter Set teased at GAMA trade show
'It is a source of constant consternation that my opponents cannot correlate their innate inferiority with their inevitable defeat. It would seem that stupidity is as eternal as war.'
- Nemesor Zahndrekh of the Sautekh Dynasty Overlord of the Crownworld of Gidrim
2017/03/31 21:05:18
Subject: Games Workshop - Page 6 - Shadow War Armageddon and new AoS Starter Set teased at GAMA trade show
Kijamon wrote: So to me that looks like all 3 of the new terrain pieces in this kit. Unless I am missing something?
There are some parts that are included only once in the boxed set that would be included twice if all three kits were combined. Basically walkways and support from Galvanic Magnavent are included, but not the chimneys (because they are the same that come in Alchomite Stack).
Also, price of the boxed set seems to be lower than advertised in WD. This one is slightly cheaper than WHQ: Shadows Over Hammerhal.
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That place is the harsh dark future far left with only war left.
2017/03/31 21:25:12
Subject: Re:Games Workshop - Page 6 - Shadow War Armageddon and new AoS Starter Set teased at GAMA trade show
Wow, Harlequin Solitaire special operative rules are quite bizarre but very, very fluffy - if you hire him, you must play the mission with Solitaire only!
2017/03/31 21:29:48
Subject: Games Workshop - Page 6 - Shadow War Armageddon and new AoS Starter Set teased at GAMA trade show
Kijamon wrote: So to me that looks like all 3 of the new terrain pieces in this kit. Unless I am missing something?
So, to me now looking at this box, there seem to be 3 pieces of terrain to buy in WD and this box lets you make a combo of 2, maybe even 2.5 of them. gak, now I can connect those pipes when I buy them and the OOPS! I only bought one of the 2 Heamotropes that comes in the box off eBay so now that has a use beyond a display board This kit also allows the goggles bits but nothing beyond the kits/sprues shown here.
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2017/03/31 21:58:49
Subject: Games Workshop - Page 6 - Shadow War Armageddon and new AoS Starter Set teased at GAMA trade show
"Unimaginably ancient xenos artefact somewhere on the planet, hive fleet poised above our heads, hidden 'stealer broods making an early start....and now a bloody Chaos cult crawling out of the woodwork just in case we were bored. Welcome to my world, Ciaphas."
Inquisitor Amberley Vail, Ordo Xenos
"I will admit that some Primachs like Russ or Horus could have a chance against an unarmed 12 year old novice but, a full Battle Sister??!! One to one? In close combat? Perhaps three Primarchs fighting together... but just one Primarch?" da001
So the nz price is the same as Alarielle, so it should be £80 and $ 130 US. Also the individual scenery pieces were listed in white dwarf as 1st April preorder but they are not on the site.
Given that the product is clearly limited as rumoured, it seems probable that the rumour of rules coming seperately later is also true.
2017/03/31 22:18:06
Subject: Games Workshop - Page 6 - Shadow War Armageddon and new AoS Starter Set teased at GAMA trade show
Chikout wrote: So the nz price is the same as Alarielle, so it should be £80 and $ 130 US. Also the individual scenery pieces were listed in white dwarf as 1st April preorder but they are not on the site.
Given that the product is clearly limited as rumoured, it seems probable that the rumour of rules coming seperately later is also true.
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2017/03/31 22:22:03
Subject: Games Workshop - Page 6 - Shadow War Armageddon and new AoS Starter Set teased at GAMA trade show
Messiah wrote: I dont get why they don't just switch out the bs value to a die roll needed like in lotr or aos. Bs values are just unnecessarily clunky.
Also, the bottle test: Why, why, why? I've lost kill team matches to that rule (break test) and it wasnt fun for any of us. The worst one was where I'd shot out all except one of an opponents' kill team and I had lost one of my eight Chaos chosen. My opponent gets off a lucky shot that kills another of my chosen. I of course roll a twelve on my break test and immediately lose the game. We both agree it's bs as I had the opponents' last model (a Chaos raptor iirc) surrounded and in range of my entire kill team. I end up unhappy because I lost to a single illogical die roll and my opponent was unhappy because he had no sense of achievement for his victory.
Whilst bottle tests were not ideal, the sort of situation you describe above is not necessarily unrealistic. There are plenty of times in military history where a small force has scared a much large force into believing they are actually outnumbered. What you know as a player is very different to what your models would know.
His model was literally surrounded, as in all my models except one (so 5 in all) were within 8 inches of his last guy, ready to shoot and charge, and my last guy was not far off. It was silly. It doesn't matter if it was not totally unrealistic. Neither of us had a satisfying end to the game.
2017/03/31 22:32:58
Subject: Re:Games Workshop - Page 6 - Shadow War Armageddon and new AoS Starter Set teased at GAMA trade show
Chikout wrote: So the nz price is the same as Alarielle, so it should be £80 and $ 130 US. Also the individual scenery pieces were listed in white dwarf as 1st April preorder but they are not on the site.
Given that the product is clearly limited as rumoured, it seems probable that the rumour of rules coming seperately later is also true.
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Spoiler:
All those additional terrain kits are just sprues from the main game rearranged into separate boxes in different configurations.
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2017/03/31 22:36:35
Subject: Games Workshop - Page 6 - Shadow War Armageddon and new AoS Starter Set teased at GAMA trade show
Chikout wrote: So the nz price is the same as Alarielle, so it should be £80 and $ 130 US. Also the individual scenery pieces were listed in white dwarf as 1st April preorder but they are not on the site.
Given that the product is clearly limited as rumoured, it seems probable that the rumour of rules coming seperately later is also true.
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That video almost made me cry.
2017/03/31 22:45:35
Subject: Games Workshop - Page 6 - Shadow War Armageddon and new AoS Starter Set teased at GAMA trade show
That pic is strange. It looks like we are getting lots of individual scenery sets, but they are all just different combinations of the same sprues. Also the magnavent is listed as a whole month later than advertised in white dwarf. It seems there has been lots of adjustments to the release schedule.
