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Krieg! What a hole...

So I took a look at the free PDF on GW site, there are no rules for either the Guard or Stormtroopers (and no SM's, for that matter). Am I missing something.

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Savageconvoy wrote:
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Canberra, Australia

 Bobthehero wrote:
So I took a look at the free PDF on GW site, there are no rules for either the Guard or Stormtroopers (and no SM's, for that matter). Am I missing something.


Those rules are in the main rule book itself.
   
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Heroic Senior Officer





Krieg! What a hole...

Ah... that's gonna make them a bit harder to come by

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Savageconvoy wrote:
Snookie gives birth to Heavy Gun drone squad. Someone says they are overpowered. World ends.

 
   
Made in ca
Resolute Ultramarine Honor Guard






Vancouver, BC

Do we know how many points this game will be to start? Want to start a harlequin troupe, but...

 warboss wrote:
Is there a permanent stickied thread for Chaos players to complain every time someone/anyone gets models or rules besides them? If not, there should be.
 
   
Made in gb
Longtime Dakkanaut




Why aren't X, Y And Z playable?!

Because it takes time to develop the gangs to be at least kind of playable against each other.

Look at the unbalance introduced with basically every version of outlanders ever. These are even more distinct than that.

I'm sure we'll get more in the future... I'm sure we can set up some kind of semi official process to develop more... but we actually have quite a lot already.


Is this going to receive no support? Well, their other games got quite a bit, despite the whinging. But consider this, GoC was just GoC. Silver Tower was WHQ: ST. This is Shadow Wars: Armageddon.

Shadow wars appears to be the series, Armageddon is this box.


Finally, just because it says while stocks last doesn't mean the first time it is out that it's done. All GW releases have been sold out recently, to then come back. Wait and see if more are printed before turning despair to 11.

All in all, it looks fun
   
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Regular Dakkanaut






Whoa, all sold out. Looks like Ebay it is.
It's a 1000 points to build a kill team.
   
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Boosting Black Templar Biker




Minnesota

Given that this is a limited run, I hope they release full rules online because not everyone that will want to play will be able to get the box.

4000+

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Heroic Senior Officer





Krieg! What a hole...

Vorian wrote:
Why aren't X, Y And Z playable?!


Because the Guard and the SM are (arguably for the SM's) the primary force of the Imperium, especially on Armageddon

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Savageconvoy wrote:
Snookie gives birth to Heavy Gun drone squad. Someone says they are overpowered. World ends.

 
   
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Battle Tested Karist Trooper





Central Coast, California

So, the rules will be a ailable digitally, correct? And you know the scenery kits will be available separately fairly soon, right? Why the absolute nesecity to grab this now? Especially since it's got tired old SM scout and Ork boyz thrown it to make it seem like a good deal.

I've already got scouts and orks coming outa my ears...the main reason this isn't an autobuy for me.

I'm sorta tapped out anyway from both WQ boxes, Overkill, the LE Genestealer Cult box, the GC kits, Bloodbowl, Skaven team, Deathzone, the AoS Tzeentch releases...which consequently convinced me to get the AoS General's Handbook and the Desciples of Tzeentch battletome. I'm officially overextended. Roundtree tailored the releases from the last year and a half to specifically target me and my nostalgia button...my credit card is still smoking!

Now, I think it's crummy for GW to make the 'supply is limited' claim. I have to think the box will just be sold out while they make another print run. If it truly is a one-and-done limited release, then we still have Necromunda, and the inevitable eventual release of these great new scenery kits.

   
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Liche Priest Hierophant







It's more that the boxset has the scenery at a discount.

And we don't know if the rules will be available digitally. They very much could be but for all we know only the currently uploaded kill teams will be free digitally.

I wouldn't be surprised if either the rulebook goes up separately or if this box is followed by another similar limited set in the future with different factions and terrain.
   
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Cozy cockpit of an Archer ARC-5S

Also, the boxed set is the only way of getting the rules at this point.

The rules will no doubt become available on their own or at the very least digitally somewhere down the road.



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Versteckt in den Schatten deines Geistes.

And I guess those of us who don't like digital rules are just gak outta luck.

Thanks GW!

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Fresh-Faced New User




Scotland

What time do pre-orders in the UK normally go up? I want to try and get a copy of this.
   
Made in gb
Longtime Dakkanaut




 H.B.M.C. wrote:
And I guess those of us who don't like digital rules are just gak outta luck.

Thanks GW!


Or eBay for the many duplicate rulebooks there will be?

Or the perfectly realistic possibility it will be released as a hardcopy?
   
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Decrepit Dakkanaut






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I think they'll go with digital somewhere down the road, which is cheaper than doing another print run.



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The Netherlands

 OPULENCE wrote:
What time do pre-orders in the UK normally go up? I want to try and get a copy of this.


Dunno, but I am refreshing the page every second or so

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Nottingham, England

I think it's possible non-uk territories are limited more in stock than the UK because by all accounts this is a rush release that's been brought forward to fill Titanicus slipping. Hence why we are getting most faction rules for free, and why there is no black library support.

Think GW are going to see some good unit box sales given the duality of most of them which will give some flexibility for this game. I'm interested as to what has happened about the scenery pieces though.

From looking at white dwarf the description of the scenery in the box doesn't match the pics - they show that under hanging skull thing from the £45 set, which isn't in the box according to the description.
   
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Cozy cockpit of an Archer ARC-5S

 Low_K wrote:
 OPULENCE wrote:
What time do pre-orders in the UK normally go up? I want to try and get a copy of this.


Dunno, but I am refreshing the page every second or so
It should pop up around ten or eleven for the non-UK EU countries.



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Khorne Chosen Marine Riding a Juggernaut





UK

Does anyone know the model limits for the kill teams they just released as I know marines are 3-10 and orks are more... can't see what say chaos is

 
   
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Longtime Dakkanaut




https://www.games-workshop.com/resources/PDF/ShadowWar/SWA_Killteams_ENG.pdf

That's the link you're after
   
Made in pt
Longtime Dakkanaut





I will skip this release and wait for a new Necromunda (from Specialist Design Studio). The much-needed terrain is out now, some new plastic gangers and a (slightly) updated rulebook sold as a boxed set and we are ready to go.

While I think Shadow War is a good thing, and will try to get a few games in, I will purchase the terrain later and not with this initial set. A SWA sequel seems to be likely as well, so maybe I will purchase that.

I would prefer a sequel focusing on Inquisitors. Blanchitsu & Inquisimunda - some original artwork and new plastic Inquisitor miniatures, sold as an Inquisimunda starter set with a Warband against Warband campaign to play through.


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Khorne Chosen Marine Riding a Juggernaut





UK

Vorian wrote:
https://www.games-workshop.com/resources/PDF/ShadowWar/SWA_Killteams_ENG.pdf

That's the link you're after


Have that but it makes no mention of model limits that I can see...

 
   
Made in pl
Regular Dakkanaut




I wanted to buy it but i completely dont understand why its a limited run?

This made me actually angry
   
Made in gb
Longtime Dakkanaut




Only for some, which I imagine means the ones without their own specified limits follow the core rules instead.

   
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 Latro_ wrote:
Vorian wrote:
https://www.games-workshop.com/resources/PDF/ShadowWar/SWA_Killteams_ENG.pdf

That's the link you're after


Have that but it makes no mention of model limits that I can see...

Some teams, like Harlequins, have specific limits while the others do not so I assume there is a default size range baked into the rules.

"Three months? I'm going to go crazy …and I'm taking you with me!"
— Vala Mal Doran
 
   
Made in nz
Dakka Veteran





Have they like... given up on 40k as a game in its own right?

Seems like every week is a new boxed set with an exciting 'standalone game' repackaging existing models for small scale fighting.

Very boring.

   
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Pewling Menial





PossumCraft wrote:
Have they like... given up on 40k as a game in its own right?

Seems like every week is a new boxed set with an exciting 'standalone game' repackaging existing models for small scale fighting.

Very boring.


Did you somehow manage to sleep through the whole Gathering Storm release?
   
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Arch Magos w/ 4 Meg of RAM





Surprised that this is limited availability. Not surprised it has already sold out in NZ - guess it will repeat that trend across today. I really really hope the rules are released as a seperate eBook or paper book. I have loads of scenery (original Necromunda stuff) and so the updated rules is the only essential part for me. I really want to play this game.

Bye bye Dakkadakka, happy hobbying! I really enjoyed my time on here. Opinions were always my own :-) 
   
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Its showing on the UK page now but when clicking the link its going to error 404 :(
   
Made in gb
Regular Dakkanaut




So right now there is no real way of knowing if the rules will be available outside of the main box?

As nice as the set is, I look at the original necromunda scenery I have and the stuff I built using all the mantic scenery kits (which I think is more suited to creating multi-level tables than the GW attempt, even if it lacks the detail of GW), and al I want is rules.

Although looking at white dwarf, they are not too far off the final compendium rulebook (Underhive) that GW released for original Necromunda, so it perhaps just is not something for a customer that already has all this stuff, and is not intended to be.


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dreadedman wrote:
Its showing on the UK page now but when clicking the link its going to error 404 :(


10.00 AM they go live, Same time every week.

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