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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/07/06 03:39:07
Subject: The comic book discussion thread.
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Solahma
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I guess we have different definitions of continuity. When things inside a fictional world are invented for no other reason than the existence of something outside of that world, I don't see that as continuity. Continuity means a progression from within the story.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/07/06 05:36:27
Subject: Re:The comic book discussion thread.
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Ya, that's definately not any definition of continuity. Regardless, they are coming from within the story. It's explained in-universe but obviously in real life they are hoping the buzz from the movies will make kids also pick up a similiar looking comic. It doesn't actually work but they want to keep trying I guess.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/07/06 07:48:05
Subject: The comic book discussion thread.
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Dominating Dominatrix
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reds8n wrote:One assumes that the Rocket Raccoon push is related to the Guardians of the Galaxy movie that marvel want before Avengers 2.
I still don't see the appeal of this group or a movie based on them.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/07/06 08:00:21
Subject: Re:The comic book discussion thread.
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Et In Arcadia Ego
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2012/07/06 08:36:43
The poor man really has a stake in the country. The rich man hasn't; he can go away to New Guinea in a yacht. The poor have sometimes objected to being governed badly; the rich have always objected to being governed at all
We love our superheroes because they refuse to give up on us. We can analyze them out of existence, kill them, ban them, mock them, and still they return, patiently reminding us of who we are and what we wish we could be.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/07/06 11:03:13
Subject: Re:The comic book discussion thread.
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Dominating Dominatrix
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reds8n wrote: The Abnett/Lanning run was superb, well worth picking up.
This one?
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Guardians-Of-The-Galaxy-Volume/dp/0785133380/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1341572513&sr=8-1
Seems a bit expensive for a TPB.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/07/06 11:09:54
Subject: Re:The comic book discussion thread.
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Et In Arcadia Ego
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..it wasn't that expensive when it was first released... must be OOP.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guardians_of_the_Galaxy_(2008_team)
I enjoyed them all very much, War of Kings was the best Marvel event in years. Great artwork, nice story, interesting cast of characters and t'was able to effect ( or threaten anyway) some real/long lasting changes.
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The poor man really has a stake in the country. The rich man hasn't; he can go away to New Guinea in a yacht. The poor have sometimes objected to being governed badly; the rich have always objected to being governed at all
We love our superheroes because they refuse to give up on us. We can analyze them out of existence, kill them, ban them, mock them, and still they return, patiently reminding us of who we are and what we wish we could be.
"the play's the thing wherein I'll catch the conscience of the king, |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/07/06 11:14:11
Subject: The comic book discussion thread.
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Dominating Dominatrix
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/07/06 13:18:11
Subject: Re:The comic book discussion thread.
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Solahma
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reds8n wrote:The Abnett/Lanning run was superb, well worth picking up.
Okay, I'll take that recommendation. I just bought them along with the Annhiliation books and the Thanos Imperative. Automatically Appended Next Post: It's hard to describe any set of stories that includes Dr. Strange and Adam Strange as being the same genre, except for a super-broad "science fiction and fantasy."
... and this to show that superhero comics aren't a genre? Why, that is the very definition of the superhero comic genre. We'll know the superhero movie boom is drawing to a close when the studios try to reboot a few of the "A" list heroes and it fails, really badly, at the box office. Or when they just give up on trying to milk those small number of cash cows, and we start seeing only movies about heroes who are somewhat less overexposed.
So the boom is over when either big name heroes are rebooted or B-List characters get movies? That means the boom is over no matter what -- and moreover, according to that "argument," it was over before it even happened. And then there's the little problem of Daredevil, Blade, Punisher, and Ghostrider all having movies from the last decade. Also, Iron Man wasn't exactly the most popular hero before Favreau's first movie.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/07/06 16:50:04
Subject: Re:The comic book discussion thread.
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Stone Bonkers Fabricator General
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@reds8n: I'm thinking of picking up the Nova TPBs. Does that lead into Guardians of the Galaxy? Where's a good starting point? Automatically Appended Next Post: Manchu wrote:reds8n wrote:The Abnett/Lanning run was superb, well worth picking up.
Okay, I'll take that recommendation. I just bought them along with the Annhiliation books and the Thanos Imperative.
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It's hard to describe any set of stories that includes Dr. Strange and Adam Strange as being the same genre, except for a super-broad "science fiction and fantasy."
... and this to show that superhero comics aren't a genre? Why, that is the very definition of the superhero comic genre. We'll know the superhero movie boom is drawing to a close when the studios try to reboot a few of the "A" list heroes and it fails, really badly, at the box office. Or when they just give up on trying to milk those small number of cash cows, and we start seeing only movies about heroes who are somewhat less overexposed.
So the boom is over when either big name heroes are rebooted or B-List characters get movies? That means the boom is over no matter what -- and moreover, according to that "argument," it was over before it even happened. And then there's the little problem of Daredevil, Blade, Punisher, and Ghostrider all having movies from the last decade. Also, Iron Man wasn't exactly the most popular hero before Favreau's first movie.
Don't forget about Hellboy and Sin City. Those weren't exactly screaming out for a movie to be made about them. Obscure properties that have done well.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/07/06 20:38:57
Subject: Re:The comic book discussion thread.
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Dominating Dominatrix
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This sounds like a really bad joke:
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/07/06 22:26:37
Subject: The comic book discussion thread.
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Solahma
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Kind of looks like one, too.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/07/07 11:33:12
Subject: Re:The comic book discussion thread.
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[DCM]
Et In Arcadia Ego
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The poor man really has a stake in the country. The rich man hasn't; he can go away to New Guinea in a yacht. The poor have sometimes objected to being governed badly; the rich have always objected to being governed at all
We love our superheroes because they refuse to give up on us. We can analyze them out of existence, kill them, ban them, mock them, and still they return, patiently reminding us of who we are and what we wish we could be.
"the play's the thing wherein I'll catch the conscience of the king, |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/07/07 13:37:37
Subject: Re:The comic book discussion thread.
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Manchu wrote:So the boom is over when either big name heroes are rebooted or B-List characters get movies? That means the boom is over no matter what -- and moreover, according to that "argument," it was over before it even happened. And then there's the little problem of Daredevil, Blade, Punisher, and Ghostrider all having movies from the last decade. Also, Iron Man wasn't exactly the most popular hero before Favreau's first movie.
What might have made for sense as an argument would have been that only the 'A-list' of Superman, Batman, Spideman, the X-Men and one or two others are necessarily viewed in Hollywood as guaranteed box office draws. Less-prominent characters are more likely to require a well-made (or at least fan-pleasing) film to provide a return on the studio's investment - something that's much more difficult to guarantee. Most of your B-list examples were critically panned and didn't (to the best of my knowledge) generate impressive returns. I don't, by way of example, recall Punisher fans being exactly delighted by any of the various attempts to bring the character to life on celluloid, and words are not adequate to explain the bilious rage of Hellblazer fans upon the release of the comically ghastly Constantine.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/07/08 04:22:32
Subject: The comic book discussion thread.
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Solahma
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Just finished reading volume 2 of Hickman's Fantastic Four. To recap, I was mesmerized by the humanity of the first story in volume 1 and then kind of let down by the second. It's not that the second story was bad (well, the art was pretty bad) but it was a bridge to other things that, to be honest, I don't totally understand even after reading volume 2. I guess other stuff was going on in the Marvel universe at the time (go figure). That impression continues in the background of the volume 2 stories. But the art leaps back to A+ quality and the set-ups are worthy of Stan Lee: the Moleman asks the FF for help dealing with his devolving Moloids; Sue Storm steps up as ambassador to a long-lost undersea world, Annhilus and Blastarr wage their war over the Negative Zone as the Inhumans and their ontological allies rally to prove their worth as against their Kree engineers. It's a breathtaking ride. I think this scale is the definitive aspect of the FF: there is no problem too big. As the first story from volume 1 set it, the goal of these people is to "solve everything." And everything is huge, wacky, operatic, and yet very human.
In short, if you've ever had any interest in the Fantastic Four then you'll be doing yourself a tremendous favor by picking up the collected Hickman run.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/07/08 20:20:39
Subject: The comic book discussion thread.
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Agreed - it was some of the best of the 'recent FF stuff, and reminded my why they're my favorite 'team'... when they're done right!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/07/09 22:00:45
Subject: The comic book discussion thread.
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Dominating Dominatrix
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So, apperantly, Spider-Man now has a suit to counter the abilities of the Sinister Six.
I like it.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/07/09 22:12:33
Subject: The comic book discussion thread.
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Solahma
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Did Webhead just punch Al Gore? :/
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/07/09 22:27:41
Subject: Re:The comic book discussion thread.
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Stone Bonkers Fabricator General
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WTH!? Not exactly following in Captain America's Hitler-punching footsteps there...well maybe according to some pundits.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/07/09 22:30:16
Subject: The comic book discussion thread.
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Dominating Dominatrix
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From what know, one of the suits functions is to identify the Chameleon. So, that was probably him.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/07/09 22:43:15
Subject: The comic book discussion thread.
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Excellent Exalted Champion of Chaos
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Without having done any research on the topic, does anyone here know of some decent samurai or ninja(Naruto isn't a ninja. Ninja's don't wear orange) comics?
Something along the lines of the Samurai movie trilogy or movies like Sanjuro and Yojimbo.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/07/10 15:32:02
Subject: The comic book discussion thread.
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Dominating Dominatrix
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Do the Ninja Turtles count?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/07/10 15:49:12
Subject: The comic book discussion thread.
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Anung Un Rama wrote:From what know, one of the suits functions is to identify the Chameleon. So, that was probably him.
I'm pretty sure that answer to that questions is... in the panels right after that punch!
Also - no spoiler here really - the suit isn't sticking around for too long.
Also - again no spoiler here - Mysterio rocks!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/07/10 15:56:26
Subject: The comic book discussion thread.
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Solahma
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Mysterio is a pretty neat villain, at least the disenchanted special effects guy angle is neat. The "back from hell" crap is just crap.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/07/10 18:12:13
Subject: The comic book discussion thread.
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I hear you there - I think they've done away with that angle though... maybe?
Although I think he's back to being Quentin Beck, without much of an explanation...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/07/10 18:21:37
Subject: The comic book discussion thread.
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Solahma
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It was just something I heard about while poking around the Marvel universe of late in relation to my FF reading. I remember thinking, "KamikazeCanuck would hate this."
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/07/10 19:49:50
Subject: Re:The comic book discussion thread.
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Stone Bonkers Fabricator General
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What? Mysterio going to hell? News to me.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/07/10 19:51:00
Subject: The comic book discussion thread.
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Solahma
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Quentin Beck being dead, going to hell, being resurrected after two other people have donned the Mysterio title, only to replace them, basically making his original death meaningless.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/07/10 20:01:38
Subject: The comic book discussion thread.
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Stone Bonkers Fabricator General
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Manchu wrote:Quentin Beck being dead, going to hell, being resurrected after two other people have donned the Mysterio title, only to replace them, basically making his original death meaningless.
Ya...I love that stuff... /sarcasm.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/07/10 20:10:05
Subject: The comic book discussion thread.
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Solahma
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I dunno why a character like Quentin Beck even needs to come back. Who the hell cares? The great thing about non-powered villains is that just about any lunatic can put on the costume and bring new, cool stuff to the role.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/07/10 20:15:35
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Stone Bonkers Fabricator General
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I actually didn't know Mysterio's real name. I'm just assuming you've done the research.
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