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Uh, yeah, as I posted above ...

No, I'm agreeing with you. I didn't even know who Mysterio was. You can stick any guy in the suit. There's no need to bring back Quentin whatshisname.

Don't get me wrong, you can't have a whole series of Penguins or Doctor Dooms (remember how that turned out ...).

I get the sense from the Marvel world that super villains aren't too important these days.

Mysterio was cool. My favourite Spidey villian has to be the Shocker though. I just love that guy.


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I hope, whenever we get that Amazing Spider-Man sequel, the first few minutes will be just him beating up a random super villian like Shocker. Kinda like a Bond intro.

Manchu wrote:Quentin Beck being dead, going to hell, being resurrected after two other people have donned the Mysterio title, only to replace them, basically making his original death meaningless.

Comic book death meaningless!? Surely not?

No one is shocked. It's just KC and I have talked about the "endless soap opera" idea of comics (as Alan Moore calls it) many times before and he usually disapproves of it while I usually approve of it. It looks like we see eye-to-eye regarding Quentin Beck, however.

The Kamikaze likes to stir gak up in here, so yes, I too am surprised over his Lack of Hate.

And, in this case, though I largely agree with your points Manchu, I'm glad the original Mysterio is back under the fish bowl - just because!

I don't make points to "stir up gak" those are my actual opinions.


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Anung Un Rama wrote:Mysterio was cool. My favourite Spidey villian has to be the Shocker though. I just love that guy.


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I hope, whenever we get that Amazing Spider-Man sequel, the first few minutes will be just him beating up a random super villian like Shocker. Kinda like a Bond intro.

I find there's two takes on Shocker. 1) Generic Bad Guy Shocker and 2) Shocker who has a really bad anxiety problem and can barely make it through a single day. I like the second one more because it's a little different. Which Shocker is it you like?

Alpharius wrote:I'm glad the original Mysterio is back under the fish bowl - just because!

Again, I haven't actually read the stories. It just seems to me that this kind of villain is exactly the kind that could go through successive identities without disrupting the line-up. Contrast this to Jean Grey being missing for so long. No matter what, Emma Frost will never fill those ... ahem, shoes. And you can't just get another redhead in a yellow suit either.

http://www.bleedingcool.com/2012/07/10/marvel-ends-9-titles-as-marvel-now-begins/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+BleedingCool+%28Bleeding+Cool+Comic+News+%26+Rumors%29&utm_content=FaceBook

Though it’s been called a soft reboot by some, Marvel NOW! is looking like a definitive change in its first month of solicits, with 9 titles ending as the Uncanny Avengers begins what the solicits call “the greatest era of the Marvel Universe”.

Captain America, The Mighty Thor, Incredible Hulk, Invincible Iron Man, Fantastic Four, FF, Uncanny X-Men, New Mutants, and X-Men: Legacy will all be ending in October, according to Marvel’s Solicits.

KamikazeCanuck wrote:I find there's two takes on Shocker. 1) Generic Bad Guy Shocker and 2) Shocker who has a really bad anxiety problem and can barely make it through a single day. I like the second one more because it's a little different. Which Shocker is it you like?

I'm not sure. It's been ages since I've read anything with him in it.

reds8n wrote:http://www.bleedingcool.com/2012/07/10/marvel-ends-9-titles-as-marvel-now-begins/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+BleedingCool+%28Bleeding+Cool+Comic+News+%26+Rumors%29&utm_content=FaceBook

Though it’s been called a soft reboot by some, Marvel NOW! is looking like a definitive change in its first month of solicits, with 9 titles ending as the Uncanny Avengers begins what the solicits call “the greatest era of the Marvel Universe”.

Captain America, The Mighty Thor, Incredible Hulk, Invincible Iron Man, Fantastic Four, FF, Uncanny X-Men, New Mutants, and X-Men: Legacy will all be ending in October, according to Marvel’s Solicits.

Oh good, Fantastic Four is ending...again...

And yes, I know it will be rebooting/revamping/restarting/etc.

Marvel loves them some #1 issues though!

Sad to see Brubaker end his run on Cap, but then the past year or two weren't up to the standard he set earlier IMO. Kinda felt like he was mailing it in. And the art hasn't been the same since Epting left.

Alpharius wrote:And yes, I know it will be rebooting/revamping/restarting/etc.

Marvel loves them some #1 issues though!

Careful Marvel - remember what happened last time...

KamikazeCanuck wrote:@reds8n: I'm thinking of picking up the Nova TPBs. Does that lead into Guardians of the Galaxy? Where's a good starting point?

annihilation is a good starting point. after it ended the Nova run started and soon after there was another event called annihilation conquest. after conquest guardians of the galaxy joined nova as an ongoing cosmic title. they joined back up after a while for the war of kings and realm of kings events and then came the thanos imperative.

wana10 wrote:

KamikazeCanuck wrote:@reds8n: I'm thinking of picking up the Nova TPBs. Does that lead into Guardians of the Galaxy? Where's a good starting point?

annihilation is a good starting point. after it ended the Nova run started and soon after there was another event called annihilation conquest. after conquest guardians of the galaxy joined nova as an ongoing cosmic title. they joined back up after a while for the war of kings and realm of kings events and then came the thanos imperative.

Ah. I've read Anihilation. I have Anihilation Conquest. I was going to read that then read Nova but I should read some (how much?) of Nova then Conquest, then GoG?

I think there were six or seven issues of nova before conquest started and then a few issues of nova that ran concurrently with conquest.
basically if you have the tpbs read nova vol 1 before conquest and then read vol2 after/with conquest. (if you have the limited nova hardcover just read the whole thing between annihilation and conquest.)
start the GotG trades after conquest.

wana10 wrote:I think there were six or seven issues of nova before conquest started and then a few issues of nova that ran concurrently with conquest.
basically if you have the tpbs read nova vol 1 before conquest and then read vol2 after/with conquest. (if you have the limited nova hardcover just read the whole thing between annihilation and conquest.)
start the GotG trades after conquest.

Spoiler:

Nova's reaction to civil war is wonderful

Cool, thanks. Figuring out the order of old comics is hard work...

That's very true. When I started reading Batman again, I was so confused.

What I got is as follows:

Annihilation Books 1 - 4
Annihilation: Conquest Books 1 and 2
Guardians of the Galaxy Volumes 1 - 4
The Thanos Imperative

Should that about cover it? I skipped the Havoc books and the Annihilators. Are they that important?

No Nova? But he's got the bucket on his head and everything. I'm going to get Anihilators later because the cover has a raccoon with a raygun on the cover. That's insta-sold in my book.

KamikazeCanuck wrote:I'm going to get Anihilators later because the cover has a raccoon with a raygun on the cover.

Huh?

I see this one:

http://www.amazon.com/Annihilators-Dan-Abnett/dp/0785163646/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1342124835&sr=8-2&keywords=annhilators

and this one:

http://www.amazon.com/Annihilators-Earthfall-Dan-Abnett/dp/0785159045/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1342124835&sr=8-1&keywords=annhilators

Oh.... I must be thinking of Guardians of the Galaxy:


I have no idea where Anihilators fits in then.

Annihilators came after the thanos imperative. The team called Annihilators is formed during the event and they got an ongoing afterwards.

@Manchu I'd read at least the first two volumes of Nova. (annihilation and knowhere) it'll help set some of the background for what's to come in GotG and Thanos Imperative. Nova plays a large role in Thanos Imperative so you shouldn't ignore him. (plus he's awesome so you shouldn't skip him for that reason too!)

I just despise buying paperbacks.

I know the feeling. they released nova vol 1 and 2 together in a single hardcover but i don't know how hard it would be to find now.

edit* looks like there's actually a copy of the hardcover on ebay right now for under $20 buy it now including shipping.

wana10 wrote:under $20 buy it now including shipping.

LOL, got it or a similar one.


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Also, for reds8n.

Manchu wrote:I just despise buying paperbacks.

...but their like hardcovers...but cheaper.

KamikazeCanuck wrote:

Manchu wrote:I just despise buying paperbacks.

...but their like hardcovers...but cheaper.

Not only cheaper in price ...

A friend got me Spider-Man #100, the beginning of Spider-Island. Really looking forward to it.

http://www.the-gutters.com/comic/316-rus-wooton